rooster59 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Stringent new normal measures imposed nationwide Praphorn Praphornkul CHANTHABURI (NNT) - Provinces have stepped up measures following the third phase of the lockdown relaxation, with Chanthaburi province announcing a D-Day against people leaving their homes without masks. The authorities in Chanthaburi have noted travelers dropping their guard in terms of COVID-19 avoidance practices, with local public health official, Dr. Apirak Pisutaporn, urging visitors to closed spaces to keep their masks on, and to avoid crowded places. Chanthaburi Governor Witurat Srinam admitted that locals have been seen commuting without waering masks and thereby posing a risk of a second wave of infections. The province will enforce mask-wearing stringently with a 20,000 baht fine from June 6 onward. At Phuket’s second transport terminal meanwhile, a large number of people were seen buying tickets to return home. The hub is practicing strict checks including temperature screenings and distancing. Sritrang Tours, which runs between Phuket and Hat Yai has reduced its bus loads from a maximum of 39 to only 19, and mandated that passengers scan the Thai Chana platform, with those unable to do so required to fill out a form. People traveling to Phuket are required to register on the PHUKET SMART CHECK-IN application in accordance with anti-communicable disease measures. Phang Nga Transport Terminal, has similarly seen an uptick in activity after restrictions on inter-provincial travel were lifted on June 4. Drivers at the terminal are required to report for temperature screenings as part of safety measures. They noted passengers have not reached their maximum yet, as only journeys to the south, including Phuket, Su-ngai Kolok and Betong are available. -- © Copyright NNT 2020-06-07 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 Chanthaburi province announcing a D-Day against people leaving their homes without masks. Inappropriate, if not downright insulting to the memory to thousands of brave Allied servicemen and women who perished fighting fascism. And what a cruel irony that governments around the world are now using a phony war against an invisible enemy to undermine the very rights and freedoms our forebears fought so valiantly to preserve. RIP. 18 5 1 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sukhumvitneon Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Chanthaburi province announcing a D-Day against people leaving their homes without masks. Inappropriate, if not downright insulting to the memory to thousands of brave Allied servicemen and women who perished fighting fascism. And what a cruel irony that governments around the world are now using a phony war against an invisible enemy to undermine the very rights and freedoms our forebears fought so valiantly to preserve. RIP. My grandfather would've never got on the boat to France during WWII if he saw the world they way it exists now, and that's including the pre covid era Edited June 7, 2020 by sukhumvitneon 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aussieroaming Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 Its interesting how different countries have appoached this. Where I am at present they came out of lockdown 3 weeks ago and the locals have ignored all social distancing rules and mask use. The rate of infection has halved in the time since lockdown, so I don't know what to believe. I'm still keeping my distance from anyone and socially isolating but I'm the exception. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sukhumvitneon said: My grandfather would've never got on the boat to France if he saw the world they way it exists now, and that's including the pre covid era All wars are bankers' wars, deliberately started by the rich and powerful, knowing they will profit no matter what the outcome. The phony "war" against the so-called COVID virus is no different. It will end up widening the wealth gap and give even greater control to politicians and the burgeoning technocracy. Not a sunny outlook, I fear. Edited June 7, 2020 by Krataiboy 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said: Its interesting how different countries have appoached this. Where I am at present they came out of lockdown 3 weeks ago and the locals have ignored all social distancing rules and mask use. The rate of infection has halved in the time since lockdown, so I don't know what to believe. I'm still keeping my distance from anyone and socially isolating but I'm the exception. Unless you are over pensionable age, your chances of dying, or even getting seriously ill from COVID are negligible. The sick and elderly should be isolated. Everyone else should get on with their lives, just as we do for normal flu epidemics. To hell with the "New Normal". Insist on getting the old normal back - or prepare for a life of neo-feudalism run by self-serving politicians and deranged technocrats. 16 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poskat Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 when was the last virus case in these locales? how about using some actual epidemiological evidence rather than fear and conformity 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Unless you are over pensionable age, your chances of dying, or even getting seriously ill from COVID are negligible. The sick and elderly should be isolated. Everyone else should get on with their lives, just as we do for normal flu epidemics. To hell with the "New Normal". Insist on getting the old normal back - or prepare for a life of neo-feudalism run by self-serving politicians and deranged technocrats. Bet you're not sick and elderly.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak25 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: to avoid crowded places Why are there crowded places in the beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: Stringent new normal measures imposed nationwide Complete BS. Come to my local talat which is inside an enclosed building with access points on all four sides. Over 300 stall/shops/stores No temperature checks going in or out, no name or ThaiChana recording. Inside masks are obviously optional with visitors or vendors inside not wearing them. No social distancing, food vendors let you sit how you like. Not one shop/store offers a temp check or gel before entering. One salon in the building had 3 chairs operating with 3 sitting waiting to be serviced. No masks again being worn. Thai new normal is the old normal in my neck of the woods. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Unless you are over pensionable age, your chances of dying, or even getting seriously ill from COVID are negligible. The sick and elderly should be isolated. Everyone else should get on with their lives, just as we do for normal flu epidemics. To hell with the "New Normal". Insist on getting the old normal back - or prepare for a life of neo-feudalism run by self-serving politicians and deranged technocrats. As one of those over pensionable age you suggest I should be isolated for your sake or mine? I ask that question in consideration of self serving criteria. Many societies live in multi generational family residence. Do those societies rip out and segregate the older generation "in their=whose best interests" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: As one of those over pensionable age you suggest I should be isolated for your sake or mine? I ask that question in consideration of self serving criteria. Many societies live in multi generational family residence. Do those societies rip out and segregate the older generation "in their=whose best interests" ? Yes as the rest of your family could earn an income to support you, alternatively you can all end up with no money,if were talking Thai families, economies in ruins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post digger70 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: Chanthaburi Governor Witurat Srinam admitted that locals have been seen commuting without waering masks and thereby posing a risk of a second wave of infections. The province will enforce mask-wearing stringently with a 20,000 baht fine from June 6 onward. Here we go again,Playing Big brother in a Province . Big brother mustn't forget that there is Not a Legal Law in Thailand that one Has to wear a mask outside ones home or on the street ,the only thing they can do is If one wants to enter a shop or a building is that they can Refuse one to Enter. That THB 20K is for someone to make illegal easy Pocket Money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 Provinces taking charge over the state will lead to the exact same problem immigration has with local offices. Local rules, local enforcement, local corruption, local bribes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 Here in Laos, lock-down is over, and no more temperature checks at the supermarket. Some shops have sanitizer available. Masks are encouraged in shops, but not obligatory. I carry a mask with me whenever I go out and slip it on if close to others, such as in the market or shop. Regardless of your views on the effectiveness of wearing a mask, I feel that it demonstrates understanding of the concern (perhaps misplaced) that some may have about being in close proximity to those who are not wearing a mask. Many Lao people also do the same as me, pulling up their mask over their mouth/nose when close to others. It's not an infringement on my life and lifestyle - it's common-sense.... As for Thailand, any plans that I had in the coming year to visit Bangkok for shopping, health check etc, are cancelled. I'd rather visit another city (KL or Singapore). 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pixelaoffy Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 so have to wear a mask outside in open air ? Go to HELL 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Unless you are over pensionable age, your chances of dying, or even getting seriously ill from COVID are negligible. The sick and elderly should be isolated. Everyone else should get on with their lives, just as we do for normal flu epidemics. To hell with the "New Normal". Insist on getting the old normal back - or prepare for a life of neo-feudalism run by self-serving politicians and deranged technocrats. Netflix are running a great new Sci-Fi season...right up your street 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post damascase Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) I still have problems to understand what role these masks have if the number of infections is really as low as published. How can you spread something that isn’t there to begin with? Edited June 7, 2020 by damascase 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, damascase said: I still have problems to understand what role these masks have if the number of infections is really as low as published. How can you spread something that isn’t there to begin with? It's called keeping the fear in place and it's easier to control the people. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thomas J Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, sukhumvitneon said: My grandfather would've never got on the boat to France during WWII if he saw the world they way it exists now, and that's including the pre covid era sukhumvitneon I think that the majority of men who lost their lives fighting WWII would reconsider if they saw how the world has turned out. Look at England it fought to keep itself from being invaded from Germans only to pay to be taken over by Muslims. The USA is not any better. It fought the Germans and Japanese and now is an open invitation to anyone. It has no borders to protect any longer. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 42 minutes ago, bodga said: Yes as the rest of your family could earn an income to support you, alternatively you can all end up with no money,if were talking Thai families, economies in ruins. A major glitch in that concept is that the eldest generation in many Asian societies are often the caregivers to the youngest which allows the working generation to go out to do so. Segregating would have a double negative effect perhaps? Paid childcare and homes for the elderly are a facet of the so called wealthy world. Instituted by squeezing financial capacity, creating social coping industries that operate at some level of profit, and cleverly fashion disassociated families and whole societies who become easier victims of social engineering in compliance. " Run Forrest, Run ! " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: As one of those over pensionable age you suggest I should be isolated for your sake or mine? I ask that question in consideration of self serving criteria. Many societies live in multi generational family residence. Do those societies rip out and segregate the older generation "in their=whose best interests" ? It seems you and I are in the same leaky boat. My plan is to stay put, as I am pretty fit and healthy for my age. However, with a daughter due to return to school in July I may have to rethink my strategy if there is a "second wave". A good idea would be for schools to screen returness initially and at intervals thereafter and warn parents of students found to infected (though, apparently, the virus does not spread easily to adults from children). Otherwise, we will be playing a guessing game. We have a spare room which could be used for self isolation, which hopefully won't be needed. Whatever happens, I have no intention of being "ripped out and segregated" (by whom?). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Krataiboy said: Unless you are over pensionable age, your chances of dying, or even getting seriously ill from COVID are negligible. Many young people have died from Covid; how do you rationalize that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phantomfiddler Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 For "New normal" read "New World Order" ???? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, baansgr said: Netflix are running a great new Sci-Fi season...right up your street Nah, I'm hooked on the amazing new reality show from New World Order productions. You should try it. https://unnwo.org/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just now, kokopelli said: Many young people have died from Covid; how do you rationalize that? I don't. Depends what you mean by "many"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, transam said: Bet you're not sick and elderly.... I'm 81 and on hypertension medication for 17 years. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokopelli Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 58 minutes ago, damascase said: I still have problems to understand what role these masks have if the number of infections is really as low as published. How can you spread something that isn’t there to begin with? At first I was a sceptic of wearing a mask, but it seems the primary means of infection is via airborne transmission, then a mask makes a lot of sense. It just takes one infected person to spread the virus which means we all should be wearing masks at least until such time as there are no more infections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, kokopelli said: At first I was a sceptic of wearing a mask, but it seems the primary means of infection is via airborne transmission, then a mask makes a lot of sense. It just takes one infected person to spread the virus which means we all should be wearing masks at least until such time as there are no more infections. Like now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 21 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: I don't. Depends what you mean by "many"? He forgot to put "not" at the start, not many. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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