Thailand reports eight new coronavirus cases, no new deaths

[rooster59]

Thailand reports eight new coronavirus cases, no new deaths

 

FILE PHOTO: A closed restaurant due to the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, is seen next to the Chao Phraya river with a view of Wat Arun temple, one of the city's top tourist spots, in Bangkok, Thailand March 27, 2020. REUTERS/Jorge Silva/File Photo

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand on Sunday reported eight new coronavirus cases and no new deaths, taking its total to 3,112 infections and 58 deaths since the outbreak began in January.

 

The new cases were returnees - five from the United Arab Emirates, two from Kuwait and one from India - and were in quarantine, where most of Thailand's recent cases have been detected, said Panprapa Yongtrakul, an assistant spokeswoman for the government's COVID-19 Administration Centre.

 

Thailand has recorded zero new deaths for 13 days in a row, she said.

 

(Reporting by Orathai Sriring and Satawasin Staporncharnchai; Editing by Kay Johnson)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-07

 

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[Traubert]

7 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Thailand has recorded zero new deaths for 13 days in a row, she said.

Have they opened the bars yet?

[bkk6060]

As the local populations remain virus free.

Amazing and fantastic job by Thailand.  Way to go!

[petermik]

7 hours ago, Traubert said:

Have they opened the bars yet?

either the next week....or the week after.....or the week after that or sometime later in the year.....hope this helps

[Traubert]

15 minutes ago, petermik said:

either the next week....or the week after.....or the week after that or sometime later in the year.....hope this helps

Massively.

 

Cheers!????????

[JCP108]

"Thailand has recorded zero new deaths for 13 days in a row, she said."

 

So, if we make it through tomorrow with no Covid 19 detected anywhere in the country (save in those currently sequestered in the government quarantine facilities), does that mean all of the rest of us have successfully gotten through our 14-day quarantine and everything can go back to normal? 

[Guderian]

It's amazing that the outbreak in the UK is winding down at last, and yet they're only now starting to get serious about wearing face masks in public. And never mind the quarantine shambles! How did Thailand get things so right, when one of the supposedly most-advanced countries in the world got it all so badly wrong? I'm just glad to be here and not back home, anyway. Thank you Thailand!

[rasmus5150]

37 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Have they opened the bars yet?

Noooo, absolutely not.

 

Thailand is working the statistics, and according to figures - Corona infections are up 400% since  yesterday ????

[petermik]

7 hours ago, Traubert said:

Massively.

 

Cheers!????????

Welcome....anyfink else

[bkk6060]

18 minutes ago, Guderian said:

It's amazing that the outbreak in the UK is winding down at last, and yet they're only now starting to get serious about wearing face masks in public. And never mind the quarantine shambles! How did Thailand get things so right, when one of the supposedly most-advanced countries in the world got it all so badly wrong? I'm just glad to be here and not back home, anyway. Thank you Thailand!

Yes, it is crazy.  The silly US the same they are still arguing about wearing masks.

Childish, ignorant, self serving and careless world we live in it seems.

[Mr Meeseeks]

Excellent news yet again.

 

Too dangerous to reopen the borders at this early stage IMO, and if it is done, then only to countries that have contained the virus and with mandatory quarantine in place.

[John435]

So are they testing everyone in state quarantine? Or just symptomatic people? (Because in theory, that would leave a considerable percentage undiagnosed).

 

And, with all new cases apparently being in state quarantine, is anyone else in Thailand actually being tested?

[JCP108]

57 minutes ago, John435 said:

So are they testing everyone in state quarantine? Or just symptomatic people? (Because in theory, that would leave a considerable percentage undiagnosed).

 

And, with all new cases apparently being in state quarantine, is anyone else in Thailand actually being tested?

Right. This is my question. They only count and report tests done in the two reference labs. (Other tests get done in other labs but they only get reported in the total tests done category...the results of those are never reported in public.) So, if 500 people are coming back and entering quarantine per day and each get tested twice, then the two labs would have to be doing 1,000 tests per day before they could do a single test for someone not in quarantine. What's the testing capacity of those two labs? I forget. I think Dr. Tuner knows.

 

If the rest of the country is left to get tests not done and then redone in those two labs, then we aren't being told about them since the only test results that get confirmed and reported in public are those done and redone in only those two labs. There are other labs but they seem to only be for adding to the daily total tests performed number. We never know when one is positive. 

[DrTuner]

3 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

Noooo, absolutely not.

 

Thailand is working the statistics, and according to figures - Corona infections are up 400% since  yesterday ????

That's nothing, after a zero day it's always infinitely worse.

 

The trouble with percentages in propaganda is they work both ways.

[DrTuner]

2 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

What's the testing capacity of those two labs? I forget. I think Dr. Tuner knows.

The anecdotal evidence I've gathered since January pointed to about 400-600/d at National Institute of Health in the early days. The testing charts released every few weeks indicate somewhere around 4-5k tests in total done there since the beginning. The other WHO lab that belongs to Army has never disclosed any numbers. 

 

It seems to indicate only positive results from second tier testing facilities get retested at NIH and end up as confirmed, which makes sense. A small lab, no use overloading it. However, it also means there's a queue to it, which was over 10k PUI back months ago when they deleted the information from their reports, including the already published Thai language reports. The official status for the people in the queue is "Pending", not "Confirmed". We'll never know.

 

In addition to that, it looks like MoPH has another switch at their disposal, they control what gets published and what not, confirmed or not:

 

The end result is the numbers in this thread, which is a very heavily distilled view into the entire testing data.

[JCP108]

4 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

The anecdotal evidence I've gathered since January pointed to about 400-600/d at National Institute of Health in the early days. The testing charts released every few weeks indicate somewhere around 4-5k tests in total done there since the beginning. The other WHO lab that belongs to Army has never disclosed any numbers. 

 

It seems to indicate only positive results from second tier testing facilities get retested at NIH and end up as confirmed, which makes sense. A small lab, no use overloading it. However, it also means there's a queue to it, which was over 10k PUI back months ago when they deleted the information from their reports, including the already published Thai language reports. The official status for the people in the queue is "Pending", not "Confirmed". We'll never know.

 

In addition to that, it looks like MoPH has another switch at their disposal, they control what gets published and what not, confirmed or not:

 

The end result is the numbers in this thread, which is a very heavily distilled view into the entire testing data.

So, a test that is positive at a lab other than those two could get retested once at one of the two reference labs and counted as confirmed? I thought a test was only officially confirmed if it was positive when processed through both of the reference labs. 

[zeamonkey]

3 hours ago, Guderian said:

It's amazing that the outbreak in the UK is winding down at last, and yet they're only now starting to get serious about wearing face masks in public. And never mind the quarantine shambles! How did Thailand get things so right, when one of the supposedly most-advanced countries in the world got it all so badly wrong? I'm just glad to be here and not back home, anyway. Thank you Thailand!

Australia advises against wearing masks. 7k cases and 100 death. Its not about a damm mask, but some people will never get that. 

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, John435 said:

So are they testing everyone in state quarantine? Or just symptomatic people? (Because in theory, that would leave a considerable percentage undiagnosed).

 

And, with all new cases apparently being in state quarantine, is anyone else in Thailand actually being tested?

Yes. Everyone in state quarantine is tested twice during their stay, even if they are asymptomatic. They are tested at around day 5 of their stay and then a day or two before their impending release date.

 

Sorry I can't provide you with the source of that info. It came from either a WHO daily sitrep or from the CCSA daily briefing. but there are too many of both to sift through now.

[JCP108]

9 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Yes. Everyone in state quarantine is tested twice during their stay, even if they are asymptomatic. They are tested at around day 5 of their stay and then a day or two before their impending release date.

 

Sorry I can't provide you with the source of that info. It came from either a WHO daily sitrep or from the CCSA daily briefing. but there are too many of both to sift through now.

Thanks. Just trying to get my mind around a guesstimate of how many people might be tested daily who aren't in quarantine. If one knew the total testing capacities of the two labs that matter and how many tests are being run for those in quarantine (right now seems like 1,000/day if each of 500 people gets two tests), the leftover number would be the number that could be done in the general population. 

[natway09]

The interesting FACT that my wife pointed out yesterday was that these people were tested

before they got on a plane, checked on arrival, tested when arrived at quarantine NOTHING,

& then 8 day later Boom !!!!!

Opening the borders is surely not an option for some considerable time,

but why can we not open up the internal economy "suck it & see" ?

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, JCP108 said:

"Thailand has recorded zero new deaths for 13 days in a row, she said."

 

So, if we make it through tomorrow with no Covid 19 detected anywhere in the country (save in those currently sequestered in the government quarantine facilities), does that mean all of the rest of us have successfully gotten through our 14-day quarantine and everything can go back to normal? 

Absolutely not. This is Thailand, a country ran by a government full of powertrippers.

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by possum1931

[Moonlover]

48 minutes ago, natway09 said:

The interesting FACT that my wife pointed out yesterday was that these people were tested

before they got on a plane, checked on arrival, tested when arrived at quarantine NOTHING,

& then 8 day later Boom !!!!!

Opening the borders is surely not an option for some considerable time,

but why can we not open up the internal economy "suck it & see" ?

I don't know whether they are tested before they embark on their journey, but do note that they can be carrying the virus and still not show positive. That's because of the incubation period. Also, as I mentioned before they are tested 5 days after their arrival, not immediately. Again this allows for the incubation period. They need, what I think the term is, a sufficient 'viral load' to make the test worthwhile.

 

But for sure, your comment is right that they need to be cautious about opening the borders, certainly to all and sundry. There's an article about discrete opening to tourism below.

 

 

[moe666]

7 hours ago, Guderian said:

It's amazing that the outbreak in the UK is winding down at last, and yet they're only now starting to get serious about wearing face masks in public. And never mind the quarantine shambles! How did Thailand get things so right, when one of the supposedly most-advanced countries in the world got it all so badly wrong? I'm just glad to be here and not back home, anyway. Thank you Thailand!

They got it right because of Sars back a bunch of years. Unlike western countries they have had crazy virus before, same as Hong Kong, Taiwan as well and Vietnam.

[Elkski]

I'm happy Thailand has had low case numbers.   hopefully it's the truth.  but I fall a mountain short of giving praise to the leaders.  the facts show and even one leader admitted the initial response was severely  delayed.    it must be the climate, the som tom, or a prior genetic or immunity from before.  

Granted this God like junta government did have people obey the orders that were given, and then the curfew because some hiso night walkers couldn't give up their party lifestyle/jobs. 

Mask wearing was acceptable prior.  

but for sure much luck like a lottery win in not getting the bad strain  in January from all those millions from China. 

I have witnessed this pride of all things Thailand  but it's sad to hear some of you farang talk like this.   

[hotandsticky]

2 minutes ago, Elkski said:

I'm happy Thailand has had low case numbers.   hopefully it's the truth.  but I fall a mountain short of giving praise to the leaders.  the facts show and even one leader admitted the initial response was severely  delayed.    it must be the climate, the som tom, or a prior genetic or immunity from before.  

Granted this God like junta government did have people obey the orders that were given, and then the curfew because some hiso night walkers couldn't give up their party lifestyle/jobs. 

Mask wearing was acceptable prior.  

but for sure much luck like a lottery win in not getting the bad strain  in January from all those millions from China. 

I have witnessed this pride of all things Thailand  but it's sad to hear some of you farang talk like this.   

 

 

Too harsh.

 

 

I am no fan of the government but the Thai authorities responded far better than European countries - and still are doing. 

 

Slightly over-protective now but many sensible decisions (especially over Songkran).

 

 

Brick-bats for the government on many issues, but Coronavirus management is not one of them............... luck, or no luck.

[DrTuner]

4 hours ago, JCP108 said:

So, a test that is positive at a lab other than those two could get retested once at one of the two reference labs and counted as confirmed? I thought a test was only officially confirmed if it was positive when processed through both of the reference labs. 

Still need to be tested in two reference labs, so unless the one that found the positive was a reference lab, that'd be three tests in three labs. It's an interesting question if they share the samples or if they resample after the first positive. Count it together and it could be a week before it's all confirmed.

 

Note that the word "reference" is from MoPH's documents and they never revelead their list. WHO keeps a list of reference labs: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-reference-laboratories-providing-confirmatory-testing-for-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=a03a01e6_2

 

MoPH might have expanded on the definition. Again, we'll never know unless they disclose. I'd say about 95% of the useful information has not been disclosed at all, only some heavily filtered PR releases and some leaks.

 

Even if MoPH has more reference labs now, you won't be hearing from their results:

Quote

The health office in Chiang Mai said on Monday (January 27) that the Public Health Ministry had instructed provincial health offices to stop reporting the numbers of suspected and confirmed coronavirus cases and wait for the official announcement from the ministry 

There's a gag order in place, which Phuket and some other province broke a couple of times, resulting in a fair bit of "corrections" and hassle.

 

The only thing you see is when somebody at MoPH flicks the switch to "Confirmed published". 

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by DrTuner

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, zeamonkey said:

Australia advises against wearing masks. 7k cases and 100 death. Its not about a damm mask, but some people will never get that. 

I agree, it has far more to do with controlling the borders.

 

Keep them closed and everyone that arrives back home into 14 day mandatory, monitored quarantine.

 

Seems to be working for Thailand.

[DrTuner]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

Also, as I mentioned before they are tested 5 days after their arrival, not immediately. Again this allows for the incubation period. They need, what I think the term is, a sufficient 'viral load' to make the test worthwhile.

Makes sense. There's a risk of getting infected on the way here, as it seems a set of arrivals each day has carriers.

[thailand49]

23 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Yes, it is crazy.  The silly US the same they are still arguing about wearing masks.

Childish, ignorant, self serving and careless world we live in it seems.

Yes, it is crazy the answer I have is something we take for granted " democracy " it is a wonderful thing but there are times there is just too much of it that nothing gets done?  It has been written Thailand success is due to the military government if they tell you to shut down you shut down. I agree how hard is it to wear a mask and use some sanitizer?????

[JCP108]

1 hour ago, thailand49 said:

Yes, it is crazy the answer I have is something we take for granted " democracy " it is a wonderful thing but there are times there is just too much of it that nothing gets done?  It has been written Thailand success is due to the military government if they tell you to shut down you shut down. I agree how hard is it to wear a mask and use some sanitizer?????

But, the government is telling people to wear masks here and about 5% of the people in my local area of BKK do so. Compliance seems to remain an issue even when democracy isn't getting in the way.