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35 minutes ago, properperson said:

 

I spoke to the manager of The big honda dealers by the Honda factory in Bowin, last week about when the ADV300 / 350 was coming out ..... he knew nothing about it !  .  lol...

 

i do hope it isn't the same pie in the sky that has been threatening a CRF 300 for several years !

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Yes, it's only talk now, but they did keep Forza 350 quite a secret until a few months before release. We will see what a Forza 750 looks like on 14 Oct announcement... 

 

But they now do have a big gap between ADV 150 and X-ADV 750 (kind of adv chassis type, not Forza), so will make sense if they come up with something in the middle...

 

We have to wait and see, if anything it will be mid next year or even later, ADV 150 is fairly new..., so they see how it sells and get feedback...

 

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The ADV-150 is an excellent scooter particularly because of its suspension. You can fit a full-face helmet under the seat (depending on its size) but it's a bit tight. I wrote a long review some time

N-max is a very good bike. Do you have a decent motorcycle suspension workshop nearby. A good shop will be able to fit upgraded shocks and fork springs/oil to suit your needs.

Bravo!  I've found 90% of the shops don't even have a tire guage they pump and just go by feel.  I once has a flat on my PCX even before I got home I noticed there was already too much air in the tire

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On 10/12/2020 at 1:36 PM, Agusts said:

Yes, it's only talk now, but they did keep Forza 350 quite a secret until a few months before release. We will see what a Forza 750 looks like on 14 Oct announcement... 

 

But they now do have a big gap between ADV 150 and X-ADV 750 (kind of adv chassis type, not Forza), so will make sense if they come up with something in the middle...

 

We have to wait and see, if anything it will be mid next year or even later, ADV 150 is fairly new..., so they see how it sells and get feedback...

 

 

Agreed ...a 300/350, would slot in there nicely .......

 

i'm surprised Yamaha haven't done some ADV offering too....... Maybe that's on the cards ??

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On 6/14/2020 at 6:31 PM, SS1 said:
You can’t expect much from a cheap 150cc engine but I must say it’s very slow out of the box. Compared to my Aerox with some variator mods, it felt really sluggish. The top speed is around 118km/h which is almost enough for BKK, but it gets there so slowly it feels boring and is dangerous when overtaking cars. I went to ร้าน Set By..Sar โชคชัย4/44 who gave me a modded ADV150 to try. Told them to copy whatever they did there and after upgrading the air intake, throttle body and modifying the pulley, it was completely transformed. Now it accelerates like crazy (for a scooter) and is a total blast to ride. Cost: 5500 baht.
 

The part of this post I'm most interested is where in Chiang Mai I can find the engine mod kit.  The rest is a brief review of the bike vs my experience with the NMAX.

Well, I bit the bullet and picked up an ADV150.  I love riding that thing, I enjoy the higher riding position and overall feel of the suspension, and it definitely eats bumps far better than my nmax 150.  Far more comfortable ride, but does require a little extra attention when splitting lanes due to ride height.  Im pretty sure it has a larger gas tank as I've been going to the pump less.

 

The only place where I see the NMax is better is throttle response and access to power.  The ADV150 is a bit sluggish and I have to be a bit less aggressive, but its not a dealbreaker.  

 

Also, I believe the NMAX has front and back antilock brakes - the ADV150 only has the front.  I've had one time where I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting a car that pulled out of in front of me and while I did avoid a collision with my rear brake squealing, I'm wondering if I would have missed the car by a better margin with rear antilock or not.  The fact that I could slide the rear end may have actually helped swing it out of the way of the front of the car.

 

I'm located in Chiang Mai and was wondering how I might go about finding that engine mod, any ideas?

 

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40 minutes ago, juanzo said:

The part of this post I'm most interested is where in Chiang Mai I can find the engine mod kit.  The rest is a brief review of the bike vs my experience with the NMAX.

Well, I bit the bullet and picked up an ADV150.  I love riding that thing, I enjoy the higher riding position and overall feel of the suspension, and it definitely eats bumps far better than my nmax 150.  Far more comfortable ride, but does require a little extra attention when splitting lanes due to ride height.  Im pretty sure it has a larger gas tank as I've been going to the pump less.

 

The only place where I see the NMax is better is throttle response and access to power.  The ADV150 is a bit sluggish and I have to be a bit less aggressive, but its not a dealbreaker.  

 

Also, I believe the NMAX has front and back antilock brakes - the ADV150 only has the front.  I've had one time where I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting a car that pulled out of in front of me and while I did avoid a collision with my rear brake squealing, I'm wondering if I would have missed the car by a better margin with rear antilock or not.  The fact that I could slide the rear end may have actually helped swing it out of the way of the front of the car.

 

I'm located in Chiang Mai and was wondering how I might go about finding that engine mod, any ideas?

 

Thank you!

 

 

I would recommend contacting Set by Sar in Bangkok via Facebook or Line and explain to them exactly how you want your bike (e.g. focus on acceleration, top speed, or both). They ship parts even overseas, they're famous in Asia. If you want you can PM me your Line ID and I'll share the contact of a person at the shop who speaks English. You could order by post then have any local shop install them for you in CM. 

Yeah, the ADV doesn't have ABS on the rear but I much much prefer it that way. I often slide the rear into corners, a bit like riding a supermoto. You can see a video here from Friday I'm testing it on the track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0yjRuJNb6c&t I've also upgraded the tyres, the suspension with YSS and the front brake with a 300mm rotor after my original review.  

If you find yourself locking the rear during panic braking, I recommend to get into the habit of only keeping 1 or 2 fingers on the rear brake. This way even if you slam the brakes, you won't have enough force to fully lock the rear. When I'm filtering fast in Bangkok traffic I've always got 3 fingers on the front brake and 2 on the rear ready for a quick stop. 

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On 10/1/2020 at 10:25 PM, Xonax said:

I just got the new 2021 Honda ADV 150 yesterday and I am extremely pleased with how it drives and handles. The suspension is great, like on a bigger bike and the bike is perfectly balanced, opposed to my old PCX 150, which was horrible to ride. The only disadvantage is the limited storage space under the seat, which doesn´t fit a large full-face helmet. I wanted this bike badly, so I had to buy a new and smaller helmet for it as well.

The same day I bought it my brother in law who seems to know just about every shop in CM brought me to a place that sells top boxes - under the seat storage problem solved.  My only suggestion is to view a few designs and especially look at the opening/locking key hardware feel.  mine feels a bit, for lack of a better term, cheap.  Works for now, nice convenient upgrade.

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36 minutes ago, SS1 said:

 

I would recommend contacting Set by Sar in Bangkok via Facebook or Line and explain to them exactly how you want your bike (e.g. focus on acceleration, top speed, or both). They ship parts even overseas, they're famous in Asia. If you want you can PM me your Line ID and I'll share the contact of a person at the shop who speaks English. You could order by post then have any local shop install them for you in CM. 

Yeah, the ADV doesn't have ABS on the rear but I much much prefer it that way. I often slide the rear into corners, a bit like riding a supermoto. You can see a video here from Friday I'm testing it on the track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0yjRuJNb6c&t I've also upgraded the tyres, the suspension with YSS and the front brake with a 300mm rotor after my original review.  

If you find yourself locking the rear during panic braking, I recommend to get into the habit of only keeping 1 or 2 fingers on the rear brake. This way even if you slam the brakes, you won't have enough force to fully lock the rear. When I'm filtering fast in Bangkok traffic I've always got 3 fingers on the front brake and 2 on the rear ready for a quick stop. 

Awesome brother, thanks for the hookup.  

 

Did you have both front and back suspension upgraded?  Was it an off-the-shelf yss product or did they get into the valving and tune them for your weight/needs?  I could spoil myself and upgrade the suspension if it means even more of a road Cadillac ride.

 

Panic braking hasn't happened often, but I always ride with at least 2-3 fingers on the brakes.  You're likely a much more advanced rider than me, I don't have the feel for when the rears lock up (its actually not concerning, I've spent a lot of time off-road on big bikes with the rear locked up and can control the bike with relative ease).

 

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9 hours ago, juanzo said:

Awesome brother, thanks for the hookup.  

 

Did you have both front and back suspension upgraded?  Was it an off-the-shelf yss product or did they get into the valving and tune them for your weight/needs?  I could spoil myself and upgrade the suspension if it means even more of a road Cadillac ride.

 

Panic braking hasn't happened often, but I always ride with at least 2-3 fingers on the brakes.  You're likely a much more advanced rider than me, I don't have the feel for when the rears lock up (its actually not concerning, I've spent a lot of time off-road on big bikes with the rear locked up and can control the bike with relative ease).

 

Thanks!


Yeah I've added the YSS g-sport rear shocks and their performance fork kit. It's an off the shelf product but allows for many adjustments. The shop that installed them adjusted them roughly for my weight, but I might go to a proper suspension specialist in Bangkok later to get it set perfect. It was a very good investment as I'm quite heavy (95kg) and the stock suspension kept bottoming out. 

I recommend to purposefully practice locking the rear on different road surfaces in a safe area and you'll get the feel for it. I slide the rear almost every day in a couple of corners in my soi (not blind corners) just for fun and practice 😄 you'll get a good feel for it. 

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On 6/13/2020 at 10:52 AM, papa al said:

It will ride smoother

if you have a hefty girl riding behind.

Too big you might bottom out,

so experiment.

Or just run lower air pressure

which helps a lot.

But not too low.

The middle path.

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Advised tyre pressures for ADV150 on OEM tyres are 30 Front and 35 Rear. I bought a digital pressure guauge off Lazada and some 90 degree valve extensions in order to check/inflate easily. Suspension is good for me (I'm 90kgs) and even when bike loaded for touring with a rear Givi box it handles very well. I did Bangkok to Mae Hong Son, Chiang Mai, Chiang rai and back last month. Super trip.   

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On 6/14/2020 at 12:31 PM, SS1 said:

 

I wouldn’t actually use this bike for "adventures" out of town since it won’t be fast enough for the highway, but it’s the best commuter for Bangkok you can find. I realise I’ve just written an essay raving about a goddamn 150cc scooter so maybe that will give you an idea on how good it is 😄. Highly recommend getting one if you’re currently in the market for a scooter.
 

 

I bought my ADV150 in February and have covered 9,000 KMs so far. From Bangkok, a 3,000 KM tour around Southern Thailand and back and also a 3,000 KM tour around Northern Thailand and back. Add in a few trips to Hua Hin and Pattaya too. It's a great bike for touring especially if you might to do a bit of rough road or off road tracks. True, it's no fun on the faster divided highways but would they really be fun on any bike? Where the ADV150 definitely wins for me is the versatility and the fact that it can go almost anywhere (except serious off roading for which a CRF would be needed). Pretty much any road other than the main highways is a blast - it goes plenty fast enough and handles really well for a scooter. Mae Sot - Mae Sariang - Mae Hong Son - Pai- Chiang Mai - Arunothai - Chiang-Rai was simply fun all the way. The scooter could keep up with bigger bikes in the mountain curves. The brakes (discs front and back) and low centre of gravity meant confidence on approach to sharp downhill corners. I'm using it more around Bangkok too but I still dislike the cut and thrust of all the other bikes such as couriers and food delivery riders in the city. It gets through traffic well and is really stable to ride. All in all I'm pleased to have chosen it and have booked for modifications at Set by Sar to give it a bit more power.          

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8 hours ago, soi3eddie said:

 

I bought my ADV150 in February and have covered 9,000 KMs so far. From Bangkok, a 3,000 KM tour around Southern Thailand and back and also a 3,000 KM tour around Northern Thailand and back. Add in a few trips to Hua Hin and Pattaya too. It's a great bike for touring especially if you might to do a bit of rough road or off road tracks. True, it's no fun on the faster divided highways but would they really be fun on any bike? Where the ADV150 definitely wins for me is the versatility and the fact that it can go almost anywhere (except serious off roading for which a CRF would be needed). Pretty much any road other than the main highways is a blast - it goes plenty fast enough and handles really well for a scooter. Mae Sot - Mae Sariang - Mae Hong Son - Pai- Chiang Mai - Arunothai - Chiang-Rai was simply fun all the way. The scooter could keep up with bigger bikes in the mountain curves. The brakes (discs front and back) and low centre of gravity meant confidence on approach to sharp downhill corners. I'm using it more around Bangkok too but I still dislike the cut and thrust of all the other bikes such as couriers and food delivery riders in the city. It gets through traffic well and is really stable to ride. All in all I'm pleased to have chosen it and have booked for modifications at Set by Sar to give it a bit more power.          


Glad to hear you are enjoying the bike. For me personally it's way too slow for anything outside of Bangkok. For the highways I want a bike where I can safely keep ahead of traffic without cars/trucks overtaking me. For Northern mountain loops, I prefer a lighteweight +450cc supermoto (KTM 690 currently) with some sticky tyres, heaps of low end torque and proper engine braking. Anyways, I'm sure you can have fun on the ADV150 too it handles great indeed and is very comfortable too. 

Best way to avoid the delivery riders in Bangkok is to ride faster than them 😉 safe rides!

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23 minutes ago, SS1 said:


Glad to hear you are enjoying the bike. For me personally it's way too slow for anything outside of Bangkok. For the highways I want a bike where I can safely keep ahead of traffic without cars/trucks overtaking me. For Northern mountain loops, I prefer a lighteweight +450cc supermoto (KTM 690 currently) with some sticky tyres, heaps of low end torque and proper engine braking. Anyways, I'm sure you can have fun on the ADV150 too it handles great indeed and is very comfortable too. 

Best way to avoid the delivery riders in Bangkok is to ride faster than them 😉 safe rides!

Yep, not a bike for the highway. I'd fall asleep. 

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