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On 6/14/2020 at 5:32 PM, Peterphuket said:

To be honestly I get more the idea it is spam, today I got it for the 3th time.

I have yet to receive the email in question even once, despite having a couple of flights with THAI booked for firstly 4 weeks ago and secondly last week, which, needless to say, were both cancelled! According to the following link (which definitely seems worth reading) it originated from the Bankruptcy Court rather than THAI themselves:-

 

https://loyaltylobby.com/2020/06/15/thai-airways-bankruptcy-court-email-to-passengers/

 

 

 

 

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On 6/13/2020 at 4:14 PM, Bob A Kneale said:

Why would you hope for that?  Do you rent out those "future landing spots" [sic]? 

 

What is a "rented landing spot"?

Those landing and flight spots are expensive and valuable but the belong to each country. There is usually a waiting list to get them and if one airline fails or is bankrupted they lose the slots which either go to the next airline on the list or to the highest bidder.

 

Because if the airline does become bankrupt the landing spot, fuel, servicing, food etc will have to be paid for by someone, and unless the aircraft captain has a lot of credit on his card, the authorities at the other end may well legally impound the aircraft until the bill is paid.

 

There was a Thai aircraft a while ago which was impounded by the German authorities because of unpaid bills and was only freed on the payment of those bills.

 

I am quite sure that if Thai aircraft were to be impounded for non payment of bills then the Thai government may decide on retaliation which may not prove a good idea.

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11 hours ago, billd766 said:

I am quite sure that if Thai aircraft were to be impounded for non payment of bills then the Thai government may decide on retaliation which may not prove a good idea.

But presumably THAI will be filing for bankruptcy protection (if they haven't already done so) in those countries where it currently has aircraft parked up so as to prevent their seizure (to the extent that local bankruptcy laws permit such actions, of course)?

 

They may not, however, be seeking bankruptcy protection in the USA given that they don't have any aircraft currently parked up there, if the following link is to be believed:-

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/business/thai-airways-may-not-need-to-file-for-bankruptcy-in-us

 

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geeeze .......  how many times does one have to say it  :

 

they are bankrupt

they have no cash

they are highly unlikely to refund any tickets

 

end of story ...... sorry, but that's how it is.

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Did anybody read the date at the bottom of the letter?  Today in Canada it is the 18th June 2020 and at the bottom of the letter it states "ANNOUNCED ON JUNE 19TH 2020. or did everybody miss that.  There is no date at the top which is where there should be one, so take it from there.

'nuf sed.

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On 6/13/2020 at 4:02 PM, Bob A Kneale said:

The email that you showed (the re-organisation petition) does not state that "THAI is bankrupt", neither does it say that you "have to say goodbye to your money".

 

You are right, though, when you say that THAI is not (technically) bankrupt yet, that notice issued by the court is just advising creditors that if they have any objections to the proposed action they can register that objection.

 

THAI filed for reorganization under the country's bankruptcy law, which is a kind of bankruptcy filing. I believe it means they have more debts than assets, and are hoping/expecting that the court will forgive or reduce some of their debts and thus allow them to remain an operating (barely) airline.

 

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2020 at 1:08 PM, blackcab said:

I got the same email. Thai Airways don't owe me any cash, and I have no flights booked with them.

 

I do have enough air miles for a return business class ticket to the UK though.

you can  kiss your miles accrued goodbye.

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OP ; they are kaput ... no cash ,  owe billions to creditors worldwide,  sorry but kiss your money goodbye as your chances of any refund are virtually zero.  imo

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On 6/13/2020 at 4:26 PM, Peter Denis said:

Would you not be able to use your Thai Airways Royal Orchid air miles on one of the other partner airlines of the Star Alliance?

The worlds airlines are all in such a parlous financial state, I doubt any reciprocal agreements will be honoured within the foreseeable future .

QANTA has announced no international flights until March 2021

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