RichardColeman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 UK tests per million - 99,787 Thailand tests per million - 6.708 Think that pretty much sums up Thailand's ridiculously low numbers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steevjee Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) That's very good news, however why am I constantly reading news reports that Thailand are looking at opening a Travel Bubble that will include China (rated 32 in this Covid Recovery Report) but no mention ever of Australia which is rated number 1 ? Should we read between the lines on this? Is it putting the Baht before the Nations health? Is it racial discrimination? I have my opinion, what's yours? Edited June 15, 2020 by steevjee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lensta Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Is it only me or are other people tired of hearing seeing all the <deleted> about covid 19? Personally, I could,'t care which country is 1st, 2nd or 100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zhounan Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 Prayut for life!! It was certainly thanks to him. President for life. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, zhounan said: Prayut for life!! It was certainly thanks to him. President for life. Didn't the other guy try that already and was exiled to Dubai? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: UK tests per million - 99,787 Thailand tests per million - 6.708 Think that pretty much sums up Thailand's ridiculously low numbers That doesn’t sum up anything. If a country sees no outbreaks, there is no reason to test healthy people at random. That’s why researchers look at how many tests are performed per confirmed case. A good explanation and the data can be found here. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-covid-19-tests-per-confirmed-case-bar-chart?country=IDN~ISL~CAN~CZE~DEU~SWE~TWN~USA~KOR~ITA~VNM~JPN~IND~ZAF~NZL~AUS~PHL~TUN~EST~GBR~SGP~ARG~SRB~THA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 For the population size Thailand has done very well. Thai has been mentioned along with Singapore Nz Vietnam, Taiwan and Japan as maybe a tourist bubble ( similar to Hub ) Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroomdave Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, barrykay said: i am from Australia. no way are we ahead of NZ or the real champs....Taiwan. where is No. 8 Lithonia? it can't be Lithuania because they are hopeless. I wonder did the Gullivers Travel Company include the land of Lithonia for this survey. 100% correct!! I am Canadian and live between Taiwan and Thailand and have been in Taipei for the duration. Would never have wanted to be anywhere else the way they handled it here!! And that angers mainland China in the process so even better!!! Edited June 15, 2020 by mushroomdave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 That list is a joke if for no other reason than the fact that Thailand ranks higher than New Zealand and Vietnam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, zhounan said: Prayut for life!! It was certainly thanks to him. President for life. i agree 100% ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaplaza666 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: We have some rather creative journalism going on here with conflicting reports on the data used to compile these rankings. In the NNT National News Bureau of Thailand report it states: "To decide rankings, 70 percent of the score was assessed from the drive and changes of the daily situation based on the number of patients under treatment; the rate of cured patients per number of patients; the number of tests per confirmed patients and the number of tests per population of the whole country" The above in my opinion is complete spin and not a true reflection of how the data was complied, how a country like Thailand with such low testing ratios compared to the rest of the world could get ranked so high? The truth probably being that the data was not at all compiled as above. The actual data gathering for the first 70% score assessment did not include testing information or data on number of daily patients under treatment at all. Instead it relied solely on the number of deaths per captia as stated in their report: "Proportionate Death Rate due to COVID-19 This parameter takes into consideration the crude death rates of each country and factors its population size, and then compares this to the death rates due to COVID-19 since the first case was reported in the country. This gives a true reflection of how death rates are being affected by COVID-19 in these countries. The remaining 30% consist of static scores derived from the Global Health Security Index (GHS), an initiative led by the Johns Hopkins University that was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The GHS was developed to assess a country’s readiness to cope and handle any epidemic." https://covid19.pemandu.org/about/ There are no true reflections of any numbers if you don't test everybody , all they have in my opinion is estimates and as to china , they are now being hit by a second small wave if you believe newssites from various countries . So please thailand think twice about letting these spreaders in as soon as possible because if there is one country that can make fake news better then thailand it's china. Where you think all the fake watches , handbags , clothes etc that are being sold here come from . I have been to bang saen last weekend and i must say the nr of thai tourists that where on the beach was quit big so try to keep this up and sing out the coming months with local tourists don't give in to letting chinese in to quick . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadan Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 That’s a very great achievement. Expensive though ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 What about Faroe Islands? Zero deaths and zero infected, what ranking did they get on this BS list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patts Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 If you look at Worldometer figures Thailand ranks at No 22 in Asia alone and comes in at No 127 on a global basis. Cambodia, Vietnam, NZ, Myanmar, Taiwan and Hong Kong have all done much better. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimGant Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Somtamnication said: Setting the politics aside and disdain for all things military, cough cough, Thailand actually did a great job controlling the virus. Warts and all, this banana republic did better than non-bananas Yeah, amazing what leadership by retired four star (or five star) generals can do. Eisenhower gave the US the only 8 year respite from casualties from foreign involvements -- and a huge expanding economy. Lyndon Johnson, kinda akin to the rice lady in decision making, got 58,000 US killed in SE Asia. Sadly, Prayut will never recover from the illegitimacy of his taking office. So be it. Let the facts speak for themselves, however -- sometime impeachment by another name pays dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 hours ago, RichardColeman said: UK tests per million - 99,787 Thailand tests per million - 6.708 Think that pretty much sums up Thailand's ridiculously low numbers You are perfectly free to believe a similar number have died in Thailand as the UK, after all they have similar size of population. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Gulfsailor said: That doesn’t sum up anything. If a country sees no outbreaks, there is no reason to test healthy people at random. That’s why researchers look at how many tests are performed per confirmed case. A good explanation and the data can be found here. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/number-of-covid-19-tests-per-confirmed-case-bar-chart?country=IDN~ISL~CAN~CZE~DEU~SWE~TWN~USA~KOR~ITA~VNM~JPN~IND~ZAF~NZL~AUS~PHL~TUN~EST~GBR~SGP~ARG~SRB~THA To make sense of that chart, though, you have to consider the very, very, very tight filter Thailand put on the process of allowing a case to be officially confirmed compared to the processes in place in other countries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Thailand did an amazing job. I ask you all to compare the testing regime in Australia to Thailand. Remember from the beginning all experts (WHO) said the more you test, the more you find. TEST, TEST, TEST. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myran Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Well done, indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flint Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Somtamnication said: Setting the politics aside and disdain for all things military, cough cough, Thailand actually did a great job controlling the virus. Warts and all, this banana republic did better than non-bananas. And of course Thailand hasn’t told any porkys with regard to the numbers they wouldn’t would they. I think round 2 will show the BS the Chinese only held for a month before telling the world of the virus B- - t - - dsEd 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 11 hours ago, rasmus5150 said: If you only test a small percentage with faulty tests, and also "try" to fiddle the actual numbers so you can spin that Thailand is safe - then I'm surprised that Thailand did not come in 1st place. This picture is more appropriate, I feel. Thailand is ranked 2nd in global COVID-19 recovery index This caption can be very hurtful for many, and a lot of experts have LOST FACE! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, essox essox said: my ozzie mate told me a couple of days ago that HE could be struggling to get a visa to return thailand..... I have a retirement extension and reentry stamps. Just didn't get out of Australia fast enough. Thai airways had scheduled flights showing up to 31st March. I had the 20th. Which was great. But was canceled by them. Given the 27th which was still 4 days before the month ended. Only to have a full suspension of flights from the 25th. Nothing else to do but suck it up and wait.. The general scuttlebutt is suggesting that some further changes will be made pretty soon. Won't be based on logic or peer pressure. Just something dreamed up over a long free lunch somewhere.. They are sitting in the driver's seat. Calling the shots. But many people like myself have family and friends and homes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketyo Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) I hope it's not from the same company that ranked the USA and UK as 'most prepared for a pandemic' on the chart that Trump showed early on at that press conference. I would rank that company as the worst in the world for companies that do rankings about who is the best in the world about global pandemics. Edited June 15, 2020 by Ketyo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, dallen52 said: SO here's a suggestion. Allow Australian people to return to their homes in Thailand and anyone else who wants to get back. One country at a time. Starting with the number one for covid19 recovery. No quarantine or crazy insurance cover. that would be the logical way to do it unfortunately they'll probably group Australia's figures with USA and UK so they'll be one of the last countries to be let back in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donga Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 As an Australian, believe Thailand deserves 1st place - 70 mill people with four borders, 11 mill Chinese visitors a year and has achieved zero community transmissions in past three weeks while Australia is still has a few clusters. Seems a lot of miserable folk don't believe or understand why Thailand has been so successful, which I find staggering, given it's 6th ranking in John Hopkins University Health Security index.. https://www.pacificprime.co.th/blog/thailand-ranks-6th-for-the-worlds-strongest-health-security/ Apart from some earlier confusion, Thailand settled into restrictions with their community conformity, including masks (yes the white experts and WHO recently changed their tune on what Asians have known for ages - they reduce transmission), and their one million health volunteers in the villages. Compare this effort with most countries.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-thailand-volunteer/thailands-one-million-health-volunteers-hailed-as-coronavirus-heroes-idUSKBN23B044 Well done Thailand! Now let's tackle high level corruption and road carnage.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booboo101 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Vietnam had no deaths but is right down the list, we had 56 and are number 2, don’t know how they work that out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 15 minutes ago, Ketyo said: I hope it's not from the same company that ranked the USA and UK as 'most prepared for a pandemic' on the chart that Trump showed early on at that press conference. I would rank that company as the worst in the world for companies that do rankings about who is the best in the world about global pandemics. Could it have been a team from the TVF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelepulse Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 When you look at TH and the neighboring countries, I'm going to put it down to luck and genetics, with a bit of culture thrown in. With all the Chinese traveling to these countries before borders were closed, guaranteed there were super spreaders roaming around in these countries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, steelepulse said: When you look at TH and the neighboring countries, I'm going to put it down to luck and genetics, with a bit of culture thrown in. With all the Chinese traveling to these countries before borders were closed, guaranteed there were super spreaders roaming around in these countries. In which field have you specialised in to make this intellectual observation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donga Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Booboo101 said: Vietnam had no deaths but is right down the list, we had 56 and are number 2, don’t know how they work that out ? They took into account the pre-existing ranking in John Hopkins University Health Security index for 30% of the weighting where Thailand is ranked 6 and Vietnam at 50.. https://www.ghsindex.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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