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Jetskiers, ATVs...are there any rules?

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4 minutes ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

What you want to discuss. That's how it is in Thailand. If you don't like it, go home. Or stay and whine and complain. You will fit right in this forum. 😀

No need to discuss that they are loud, contaminate the air and water, and are a safety risk, or the people riding them seem to have big truck or loud motorbike syndrome..that is too obvious.  Just wonder if there is ever any police enforcement out there, and at what point will they start limiting them.  It was fairly bad over the weekend..I can't imagine how terrible it will be when the tour busses return.  Stupidity is never acceptable, even in Thailand, even though we are forced to witness it.

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Jetskiers, ATVs...are there any rules?

Yes, Rule #1, There are no rules........... Give them a wide berth!

 

 

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7 minutes ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

Ahhh...one of these people who wants to turn Thailand into his home country. Everything what is different has to be changed. Without realizing, that he is here because of these differences. 

 

Also people don't like when muslims etc are coming into their countries and wants to bring with them their laws and change their country. But at the same time these people are coming into Thailand and want to change Thailand. Not realizing that they are doing the same.

Thais didn't invent jet skis (or anything else), but they are accommodating to the bad behaviors that came with them, about thirty years later than Mexico.  

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No point coming on here crying about it walk down the beach and let the Thais that rent the jet skis know how you feel ! I

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39 minutes ago, mikeyjj said:

No point coming on here crying about it walk down the beach and let the Thais that rent the jet skis know how you feel ! I

I am writing a letter to Marriott International, at their HQ, informing them of the dangers, and I believe if someone from the US was severely injured, they would be able to sue them in the US, where the payouts could be 1000 times more...and even more with someone, like myself, coming forward with proof that they were made aware of the situation.  All I am asking is that they don't ang!e across the swimming areas of ride too close to the shores..wouldn't cost them a dime.  Do a little math, and it is pretty easy to see that one rental area has a negative impact on a billion dollars worth of real estate..Like a lot of things, it is just a matter of time before someone important's child is a victim of vehicular homicide, and then there will be a crackdown.  History tells us that these beach gangs are usually well connected locally, but the reality is one phone call or visit from BKK and the whole thing is finished.  

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5 minutes ago, Darksidedude said:

rule #1 dont go anywhere near them

well that is just goddamn brilliant, what government department did you work in?  or were you a teacher?  but what if you are one of the people, who knows how to swim, and goes out in the gulf and one of these retards comes at you at 30-40 mph?

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1 hour ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

One of the perks of Thailand is, that is lawless state. You can drive without driving licence and pay 200 baht fine. You can get caught speeding every single day and pay 200 Baht fine. ... ... ... In your home country all these things would you land in a jail, would lead to lose of driving licence etc etc etc. But here you are free to enjoy all of these things.

 

You can't be enjoining these perks and at the same time be pointing finger on somebody who is driving and ATV on the beach. He is enjoying them too.

 

You are here because it's better here than your home country. So don't try to change it into your home country.

Great point, but why did DLT recently introduce a point/demerit system similar to those used in the West?  Why did they issue 7500 traffic citations in the first four hours use of their traffic cameras?  Why are there cameras at every major intersection in the country?  Seems a lot more like big brother than lawlessness.  Maybe they are tired of cleaning up the body parts.

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2 hours ago, AndyAndyAndy said:

Ahhh...one of these people who wants to turn Thailand into his home country. Everything what is different has to be changed. Without realizing, that he is here because of these differences. 

 

Also people don't like when muslims etc are coming into their countries and wants to bring with them their laws and change their country. But at the same time these people are coming into Thailand and want to change Thailand. Not realizing that they are doing the same.

Ridiculous reply. There are many good things about Thailand, but commenting on the selfish, anti-social behaviors of some Thais (only a small minority, but still) who ruin things for everyone else, like motorcycle racers risking everyone's lives and noisy jetski users, or motorists who can't drive, or people who light fires oblivious to the adverse health impacts they may create is NOT trying to change society or the culture. It's common sense, really. You are conflating trying to install, western, liberal values into the populace with being rightfully upset about anti-social behaviors. That's a totally different thing and mostly done by western NGOs.

 

If, and I repeat IF Thailand's culture were defined by these behaviors, then I think it wouldn't be unwarranted to say, that's a pretty lowlife culture. Fortunately, that is NOT the case, because many Thais themselves, are fed up with these selfish, low IQ behaviors. The problem is Thais have had a "sabai sabai" mentality for a long time, and the current corona crisis may be the first time in their lives most people have been forced to do things they don't want, with draconian penalties for non-compliance.

 

I think it's a wake-up call for many, and while change isn't going to happen overnight on all fronts, I strongly suspect that in years to come, some of the old selfish habits will largely have been forced out of Thais; at least the dangerous and irresponsible ones that could affect others.

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14 minutes ago, drbeach said:

Ridiculous reply. There are many good things about Thailand, but commenting on the selfish, anti-social behaviors of some Thais (only a small minority, but still) who ruin things for everyone else, like motorcycle racers risking everyone's lives and noisy jetski users, or motorists who can't drive, or people who light fires oblivious to the adverse health impacts they may create is NOT trying to change society or the culture. It's common sense, really. You are conflating trying to install, western, liberal values into the populace with being rightfully upset about anti-social behaviors. That's a totally different thing and mostly done by western NGOs.

 

If, and I repeat IF Thailand's culture were defined by these behaviors, then I think it wouldn't be unwarranted to say, that's a pretty lowlife culture. Fortunately, that is NOT the case, because many Thais themselves, are fed up with these selfish, low IQ behaviors. The problem is Thais have had a "sabai sabai" mentality for a long time, and the current corona crisis may be the first time in their lives most people have been forced to do things they don't want, with draconian penalties for non-compliance.

 

I think it's a wake-up call for many, and while change isn't going to happen overnight on all fronts, I strongly suspect that in years to come, some of the old selfish habits will largely have been forced out of Thais; at least the dangerous and irresponsible ones that could affect others.

Kind of like being habitually late, and calling it "Thai culcha," Well being late does happen frequently, with the rains, traffic, etc.., but I dare you to walk in a courtroom even five minutes late, and face the judge, or try paying a bank debt at 15:02...that two or five minutes could cost you plenty.  You're not going to catch me in a temple, but I certainly would welcome more Buddhist values, which we only hear about during discussions on banning alcohol.  What about honesty and respect for living things?  How honest is not paying for your child or other obligations?  How respectful of living things is it to drive 80 kmph on a narrow soi, wearing a GRAB jacket?  How does having rats on your premises show respect for anything?

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