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Thai road carnage: Monthly death toll already 616 - Year total well past 6,000


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24 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Wear a mask and covid19 limited to 57 dead. 

But put 26 million people out of work and close the country. 

 

Dont wear a helmet and drive like a dick..

About 60 dead every day.

And nothing else is done about it. 

This is a pandemic too.

Ignorance, stupidity and couldn't care less attitude. 

Pandemic is worldwide.

 

 

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Year on year the road fatality stats aren't getting any better so it would appear to be acceptable by the Govt. to have on average 40 people killed daily on the roads, and yet the country goes into ec

Apparently, this amount of deaths is more acceptible than having traffic laws and enforcement of them. 

Sigh. This country is hopeless. Even if the government would ban all road traffic, the shockingly inept drivers would still find a way to somehow kill each other off in droves, perhaps with plows, tra

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9 hours ago, webfact said:

Daily News - who publish the figures every day in an effort to raise awareness

I think it’s time for a more aggressive tactic as this one clearly is useless

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The powers that be are well aware of the problem. That's why when they use the roads they have an escort - number of escort vehicles directly proportional to importance of individual. They are relatively safe. Money that could be used for traffic law enforcement can then go directly to the trough.

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5 hours ago, overt2016 said:

a broken record!!!

Thailand has enough road laws to lower this daily carnage, but 

1.. incompetent enforcement.

2.check points to squeeze funds.

3. no patrols on streets.

4. me first attitude

5. no knowledge of road rules

 

Totally agree. The rules are in place but the enforcement of them is an absolute joke.

 

Road blocks, now what the **** do they achieve in the way of clamping down on ludicrous driving, Red light jumping (my pet hate), L turns across all lanes of traffic, instead of a correctly manouvered u-turn, overtaking at insane moments, forcing oncoming traffic off the road and having the ignorance to flash as if they are in the right. The list of unsafe behaviour is endless but as many of you have highlighted not a finger lifted to improve things, either by better training or giving the cops a large size 9 up their rear to change they way they operate, I saw quotes of 10,000 baht fines for not wearing a face mask during this crisis but yet only 200 baht for not wearing a helmet or 500 baht for jumping a red light... mental, just bloody mental. I am led to believe that Vietnam increased their fines 10 fold and now everyone (ish) wears a helmet, although not sure if driving standards have improved.

 

Before i turn this into a complete Thai bashing rant, i must add that i spent 4 years living in South Korea and the driving was just as bad (Red light jumping, scooters riding on pavements, parking at right angles to the road on bends (yes really!!!)), so lets hope the Koreans also spend as much focus on saving lives on the roads as they have been trying to prevent this virus from spreading

 

 

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On these stats the lockdown is saving a bit over 1000 lives every month compared to the norm.   It's curious that a life potentially lost to a virus is apparently far more than a life potentially lost on the roads.

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10 hours ago, Forza2002 said:

Year on year the road fatality stats aren't getting any better so it would appear to be acceptable by the Govt. to have on average 40 people killed daily on the roads, and yet the country goes into economic meltdown over the deaths of a mere 58 mortals from CV19... 🤔 🤪

Clearly death by road crash is preferable to death by Covid19 

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..600+ and the month is only half over with, at this rate we're talkin' two 737s crashing a month with no survivors..I guess to the Thais road deaths are a fact of life and to be expected, pandemics aren't..

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19 hours ago, Forza2002 said:

Year on year the road fatality stats aren't getting any better so it would appear to be acceptable by the Govt. to have on average 40 people killed daily on the roads, and yet the country goes into economic meltdown over the deaths of a mere 58 mortals from CV19... 🤔 🤪

Point taken, but at the end of the day not a valid comparison... 🙂 

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  And they are worried about the Virus !!   If only they put as much effort into this as they do the virus, then maybe we could  all drive without the fear of being killed everytime we take to the roads here

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20 hours ago, JCP108 said:

Apparently, this amount of deaths is more acceptible than having traffic laws and enforcement of them. 

enforcement DOES NOT exist.....

58 deaths from the virus and complete shut down of many places.....is more important.....we have not had road death figures for many months.....now we are informed......

if they can take action regarding COVID then why can THEY NOT take action regarding people breaking road traffic laws....one that get me is the UNDERTAKING .......which IS ILLEGAL !!!!

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11 hours ago, Traubert said:

Pandemic is worldwide.

 

 

the poster is CORRECT by saying IT IS a pandemic......he/she refers to the VERY BAD DRIVING in this country......and NOTHING EVER GETS DONE ABOUT IT......

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17 hours ago, smudger1951 said:

 

How do the Insurance companies cope with the number of claims for vehicles, personal injury and fatalities. Surely, this must affect premiums.

I don't think most of them are insured, there is no way any insurance company will ever take a hit in any way, but obviously they cannot force drivers and motorbike riders to take insurance out.

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17 hours ago, bbbbooboo said:

Ummm..... maybe they should do something to reduce the carnage... or is it a case of you can’t fix stupidity?

and the stupidity starts at the very top, you know the fancy ranked generals, or again, maybe they just don't care as long as their income stream keeps up.

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17 hours ago, natway09 said:

Not sure there is a lot of relevance between road deaths & the virus.

An interesting fact is that I once asked a rural police patrol on a very busy stretch of Highway 1 "why do you not have any mufti cops on the road ?"

Answer : It infringes on human rights.  My  Answer : Bulls  t

Real reason: No funding for fuel 

Yes, the generals have got to keep their income streams up.

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17 hours ago, fxe1200 said:

Yes, in my case the insurance company raised the premium from 14.000 to 17.000 THB, though I expected a no-claims bonus. T.I.T.

I have to admit that my insurance company have decreased my first class premium for my motorbike by

more than 2000 Baht.

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22 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I don't think most of them are insured, there is no way any insurance company will ever take a hit in any way, but obviously they cannot force drivers and motorbike riders to take insurance out.

No enforcement of anything driving-related.

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16 hours ago, Beechboy said:

Not particularly wishing to present the UK as a beacon of all virtue, but for comparison

 

In 2018, there were 1,784 people killed on the roads in Britain;

 

Drink driving severely punished and any found guilty virtually become social pariahs nowadays. Strict police vigilance.

Vehicles over 3 years old tested for safety every year by law (MOT.)

Largely uncorrupt police force. There will always be bad apples , but they are usually to be found in much more serious areas than road traffic offences. Even policemen occasionally get done for d&d.

Proper, and strict, test to obtain a driving licence.

 

When will the Thai authorities stop this carnage, it amounts to murder by neglect as things stand.

 

To be honest here, I don't think the Thai government are as money mad as the UK government where traffic are concerned. Road tax, fuel tax, over the top MOT system, etc, etc, etc.

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16 hours ago, digger70 said:

And they are worried at the few Deaths from the Wuhan The trouble they caused about the virus  ,

Lockdowns,  Millions of jobs lost , People gone Broke , some killed themselves , the money the people have/had to waste on Masks /Jells /Sprays. Flight Bans .Insurance Requirements.

In all costing Many Billions of THB.

If the government was Serious about the Carnage on the road They would've spend the same on Fixing that Big Problem .

They could start by getting the Police to do what they are Suppose to do 24/7 .

Policing the Laws and Fining/Jailing All Wrongdoers, from not wearing helmets up to Corruption.

Too many bigwigs benefiting from corruption, that's why things will never change.

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13 hours ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

More a question of inactive brains among the population at large.

You need to have brains first before they can be inactive.

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16 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

 

The level of discussion on this topic is mind-bogglingly stultifying and mindless as ever....

 

So far, the posts seem to be falling into 5 predictable categories

 

1.     False Dichotomy - e.g. either Road Safety OR Covid

 

2.     Racist Thai remarks - “all Thai drivers are inherently dim/stupid/selfish/have no common sense”

 

3.     Irrelevant anecdotes - “I saw someone driving badly”

 

4.     Single issue solutions - “The problem is....Driving test/police/drink etc.

 

5.     Use of cynicism to hide ignorance - “nothings gonna change” “TIT”

 

 

No-one is showing even the slightest understanding of the problem

 

 

Can you please educate us?

 

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