Popular Post webfact Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 Ahead of Trump rally, coronavirus cases surge in Oklahoma, other states By Lisa Shumaker FILE PHOTO: Bar manager at The Jackalope talks with agents from the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission as they check that bars are maintaining social distancing protocols to help slow the spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), on the first day that bars in Texas were allowed to reopen after they were shut down in March, in Austin, Texas, U.S. May 22, 2020. REUTERS/Nuri Vallbona (Reuters) - Just days before U.S. President Donald Trump's campaign rally in Tulsa, the biggest event in the country since pandemic restrictions were imposed in March, new coronavirus cases are surging in Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona and elsewhere. The spike in new cases on Wednesday and over the last two weeks points to a troubling trend in the United States, where cases have risen nationally after falling for more than a month. In addition to a record 259 new cases in Oklahoma on Wednesday, Florida reported over 2,600 new cases and Arizona more than 1,800 - the second-highest daily increase for both states. Texas reported an all-time high for hospitalizations and a record 3,100 new cases. There are about 1,500 available intensive care unit (ICU) beds in the state and about 200 free in the Houston area, according to a state website https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83. Cases have also steadily climbed in California, with Los Angeles County reporting a record increase of over 2,100 new cases in a day. Trump's campaign advisers believe his first rally in three months on Saturday night at an indoor arena will rejuvenate his base at a time when a string of national and state opinion polls have shown the president falling behind Democratic rival Joe Biden. "Ultimately, the president doesn't ask for permission before he" goes to places, said Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt during a briefing on Wednesday. "So we found out that president was coming, so we are going to make sure it's the best and as safe as possible." Oklahoma health officials are urging anyone attending the rally to get tested for the coronavirus before arriving and then to self-isolate following the event and get tested again. The health commissioner urged those over 65 or at higher risk of coronavirus-related complications to stay home. Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday said officials were considering other, possibly outdoor, venues for the Tulsa event. Pence pushed back against talk of a second wave of infections, citing increased testing. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden accused Trump of "surrendering" to the coronavirus pandemic and failing to stay prepared for a resurgence that could put a U.S. economic recovery at risk. HOSPITALS FILLING In most of the states where cases are spiking, COVID-19 hospitalizations are also rising or at record highs. Unlike spikes reported in new infections, rising hospitalizations cannot simply be attributed to increased testing. In Arizona, 83% of intensive care beds are occupied, a record high, according to a state website https://azdhs.gov/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/infectious-disease-epidemiology/covid-19/dashboards/index.php. The outbreak has alarmed the hard-hit Navajo Nation. The Navajo - with territory in Arizona, Utah and New Mexico - reinstated a weekend-long curfew that closes even essential businesses like grocery stores and gas stations. In Florida, some of the increase has been linked to reopened bars, where people anxious to get out after months of seclusion crowded together indoors, making for easy virus transmission. In one case, 16 friends who celebrated a birthday at a bar without wearing masks all tested positive, according to media reports. Texas has also pointed to bars as one cause of its current outbreak. In Oregon, over 200 new cases are tied to events at a single church. In New York, which had been the epicenter and hardest hit of the U.S. epidemic, Governor Andrew Cuomo touted his state's success story on Wednesday. "We once again have demonstrated that we've gone from the worst infection rate in the country to the best infection rate in the country," Cuomo said at his daily briefing. More than 2.1 million people have been infected with the coronavirus in the United States and over 117,000 have died from COVID-19, by far the most in the world. (Open https://tmsnrt.rs/2WTOZDR in an external browser for a Reuters interactive) (Reporting by Brendan O'Brien in Chicago; Peter Szekely in New York; Jarrett Renshaw in Philadelphia; Ernest Scheyder in Tusla, Oklahoma and Andrew Hay in Taos, New Mexico; Writing by Lisa Shumaker; Editing by Bill Berkrot) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-06-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, webfact said: The spike in new cases on Wednesday and over the last two weeks points to a troubling trend in the United States, where cases have risen nationally after falling for more than a month. Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Is it possible the abandoning of social distancing and lockdown by the communist/BLM revolters has been the cause of this spike instead? I'm sure after praising and supporting the violent protesters for 2 weeks mainstream media can not be so crass as to whinge when the President holds his rally, that would be too ridiculous for words. Let's see. 12 12 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Is it possible the abandoning of social distancing and lockdown by the communist/BLM revolters has been the cause of this spike instead? I'm sure after praising and supporting the violent protesters for 2 weeks mainstream media can not be so crass as to whinge when the President holds his rally, that would be too ridiculous for words. Let's see. "Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet." 'ahead of the rally' means the rally is not being blamed. Why do you even post things like that that are clearly not true? 30 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 28 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Is it possible the abandoning of social distancing and lockdown by the communist/BLM revolters has been the cause of this spike instead? I'm sure after praising and supporting the violent protesters for 2 weeks mainstream media can not be so crass as to whinge when the President holds his rally, that would be too ridiculous for words. Let's see. What’s even more odd is your interpretation of this news as blame being put on Trump’s rallies. Quite frankly, a very odd conclusion for any rational person to draw. 27 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 Rally at your own risk: Trump campaign's coronavirus disclaimer to supporters https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/rally-your-own-risk-trump-campaign-s-legal-message-supporters-n1230271 Quote "By clicking register below, you are acknowledging that an inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present. By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.," the rally site or organizers "liable for any illness or injury," the form says. Well, if they accept this they can't say they weren't warned. Maybe some follow-on lawsuits by those who get ill, or their bereaved, claiming the victim was illiterate. Darwinism in action. 10 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Is it possible the abandoning of social distancing and lockdown by the communist/BLM revolters has been the cause of this spike instead? I'm sure after praising and supporting the violent protesters for 2 weeks mainstream media can not be so crass as to whinge when the President holds his rally, that would be too ridiculous for words. Let's see. There is no blame being put on 45 for the current upsurge. None whatsoever. AFTER his rally and the likely subsequent infection of attendees, that blame may well be thrust upon Covid Donny. I suspect his newest mouthpiece will spin the infection increase by saying "There's a massive increase in employment by those working in factories producing Darwin Awards." 10 2 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 This really is a ticking time bomb of exponential increase of infections. Thousands in-doors for up to 8 hours of vociferous and cheering with respiratory droplets flying all over the air from fervent supporters who will most probably followed Trump and not wearing masks. Will see if Trump will protect himself behind a plastic protective device. Me first policy. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 45's crowd is going to mug for the cameras by flaunting their lack of masks and frothing out some stock 45'ish phrase like 'Lock her up!' or 'CNN sucks'. One cannot help but see this upcoming rally as Jim Jones 2.0, albeit with CV-19 instead of cyanide-laced Kool-Aid doing the killing. Cults always end in disaster. Edited June 18, 2020 by Walker88 14 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: What’s even more odd is your interpretation of this news as blame being put on Trump’s rallies. Quite frankly, a very odd conclusion for any rational person to draw. Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? Rather than wait for an answer or diversion, this is why. https://ktul.com/news/local/800000-people-reserve-tickets-for-president-trump-rally-campaign-manager-tweets "More than 1 million ticket requests for Trump rally, campaign manager tweets" Edited June 18, 2020 by TopDeadSenter 5 3 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? You can offer supporting evidence I am sure that only the left were involved with any of that? To suggest that not a single right leaning person participated does seem a little incredulous after all! 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? Rather than wait for an answer or diversion, this is why. https://ktul.com/news/local/800000-people-reserve-tickets-for-president-trump-rally-campaign-manager-tweets "More than 1 million ticket requests for Trump rally, campaign manager tweets" Diversion? Your very first line in this thread is already a diversion. With the first rally since months and a spike in infections in that area, you think that should not be mentioned? Maybe change your news sources if you never saw a link made between mass gatherings and worsening corona, why you mention the left in that sentence is your usual blame game. 16 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dumbastheycome Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 16 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? Rather than wait for an answer or diversion, this is why. https://ktul.com/news/local/800000-people-reserve-tickets-for-president-trump-rally-campaign-manager-tweets "More than 1 million ticket requests for Trump rally, campaign manager tweets" Maybe the same ploy used by record companies to sell music? Ghost orders. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThreeEyedRaven Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. Your myopic view of things is evident again as nowhere in the story does it apportion any blame. It was simply a story focusing on how infection rates in the area are rising and questioning if going ahead is wise. You are never one to miss a chance to slur the left though, so predictable. 17 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? Another deflection, again with false assumptions. Both in that rioting which brings people together would obviously increase the chances for infection, but you have to go and suggest it was only the nasty left who were out there. Mr Trumps supporters were universally at home, shaking their heads in dismay at the wicked left looting. or taking it in turns to pray one at a time in the local church were they? Your posts are always so funny, in that they are very predictably biased, factually lacking and delusional. 10 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 'In Oregon, over 200 new cases are tied to events at a single church.' ....and the Lord said, "For <deleted> sake stop being stupid <deleted>." 4 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, darksidedog said: You can offer supporting evidence I am sure that only the left were involved with any of that? To suggest that not a single right leaning person participated does seem a little incredulous after all! Fair point. I loosely use the term "left" to encompass all the splinter groups. But to clarify, the stated aims of this uprising are slogans such as "defund the police" and "black lives matter" and the autonomous zone CHOP they created in Seattle where conservatives are beaten and evicted(Twitter videos are sadly not permissible otherwise I would load a dozen showing just this- the guy brave enough to walk through CHOP carrying an American flag and wearing a MAGA hat is proof enough) all suggests/proves to me a leftist bent to the protests. Conservatives/the right favor strong law enforcement, do not want statues defaced and toppled and prefer democracy via the ballot box not by violence and intimidation on the street. The irony here is that this chaos that is ongoing in Seattle, Portland, Atlanta and other democrat states is the biggest gift Trump could ever have had. I suspect middle America is horrified by the spreading anarchy. They will vote wisely in November, of that I am sure. 4 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: Fair point. I loosely use the term "left" to encompass all the splinter groups. <snip> You use the term left for all who do not agree with your views. Heck, you even use it for extreme right wing groups, simply because only left can do wrong. Edited June 18, 2020 by stevenl 6 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, stevenl said: "Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet." 'ahead of the rally' means the rally is not being blamed. Why do you even post things like that that are clearly not true? Then WHY link it to Trump rally? that's clearly NOT true too 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 40 minutes ago, darksidedog said: You can offer supporting evidence I am sure that only the left were involved with any of that? To suggest that not a single right leaning person participated does seem a little incredulous after all! All I saw was BLM and Antifa banners and all interviewed were lefties. It seems a reasonable conclusion that the vast majority were left? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThreeEyedRaven Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Then WHY link it to Trump rally? that's clearly NOT true too I read it quite simply as highlighting the background of the area of the proposed rally having an infection issue. For most it is a heads up call if it is wise to attend. The story covered similar issues in other parts of the country also so no problem there either. When you read every story looking for somewhere to find political slant, you will always find it if you look hard enough. Nowhere am I seeing any suggestion that they are linked, or that Trump is to blame, coming from anywhere other than from Trump supporters defending the suggestions, which says quite a lot in itself. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, BobBKK said: All I saw was BLM and Antifa banners and all interviewed were lefties. It seems a reasonable conclusion that the vast majority were left? The wide support for the protest does mean that there likely to be right leaning participation. With 2/3 US adults strongly support, my personal conclusion is that there are both left and right in the protests. Seem a fair conclusions The poll further revealed lean Rep majority supported that George Floyd’s death was wronged and there are tension between black and police. Further reinforcing that your conclusion may be skewed. https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/06/12/amid-protests-majorities-across-racial-and-ethnic-groups-express-support-for-the-black-lives-matter-movement/ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Then WHY link it to Trump rally? that's clearly NOT true too They just see the Trump rally as an extra risk amid already rising cases. Its not hard to understand unless your a supporter of Trump that is. Any negative report about Trump is met with a foaming mouth by them. Seems stupid to me to hold rallies when cases are spiking. Then again nobody ever blamed Trump of being concerned about others and being smart. 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BobBKK Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ThreeEyedRaven said: I read it quite simply as highlighting the background of the area of the proposed rally having an infection issue. For most it is a heads up call if it is wise to attend. The story covered similar issues in other parts of the country also so no problem there either. When you read every story looking for somewhere to find political slant, you will always find it if you look hard enough. Nowhere am I seeing any suggestion that they are linked, or that Trump is to blame, coming from anywhere other than from Trump supporters defending the suggestions, which says quite a lot in itself. It is clearly designed to scare away people away from the rally. It's a flu virus that kills 0.3% of those infected WAKE UP. I don't hear you liberals saying this about the LOOTING crowds. Edited June 18, 2020 by BobBKK 2 2 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, stevenl said: You use the term left for all who do not agree with your views. Heck, you even use it for extreme right wing groups, simply because only left can do wrong. Recall that when Bolton began distancing himself from the rogues' gallery DT himself called him a radical leftist. So that's it: if they don't like what is being said it is fake news. If they don't like someone that person is a radical leftist. Keeps things simple, the faithful appreciate it, "lock him up!" etc. On the other hand can't you see Bolton, the neocon archangel, suing DT for calling him that? Edited June 18, 2020 by bendejo 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Just now, bendejo said: Recall that when Bolton began distancing himself from the rogues' gallery DT himself called him a radical leftist. So that's it: if they don't like what is being it is fake news. If they don't like someone that person is a radical leftist. Keeps things simple, the faithful appreciate it, "lock them up!" etc. On the other hand can't you see Bolton, the neocon archangel, suing DT for calling him that? Funny the left defending Bolton LOL still we should not be surprised at the hypocrisy we should remember the left's u-turn on Comey - hated one day and loved the next! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, robblok said: Any negative report about Trump is met with a foaming mouth by them. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, BobBKK said: It is clearly designed to scare away people away from the rally. It's a flu virus that kills 0.3% of those infected WAKE UP. I don't hear you liberals saying this about the LOOTING crowds. What’s all this ‘scare people away’ nonsense? Surely it is not a bad thing for people to be informed of increasing risks, especially when they are required to indemnify the organizers of an event against the consequences of the risk. Moreover, surely its a good thing for the nation to see the priorities of a President, his rally or the health of those who attend his rally. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, BobBKK said: It is clearly designed to scare away people away from the rally. It's a flu virus that kills 0.3% of those infected WAKE UP. I don't hear you liberals saying this about the LOOTING crowds. So it’s infectious and deadly. Let’s go and massage his ego. No mask and sign the waiver. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, BobBKK said: It is clearly designed to scare away people away from the rally. It's a flu virus that kills 0.3% of those infected WAKE UP. I don't hear you liberals saying this about the LOOTING crowds. Yep. No difference between organic protests outdoors and a planned event in an arena... 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwonitoy Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: Can you explain why Trump's upcoming rally is in a corona alarmist headline, yet 2 weeks of rioting, looting and mass gatherings by the left was never(that I saw) mentioned that it would be worsening corona? Rather than wait for an answer or diversion, this is why. https://ktul.com/news/local/800000-people-reserve-tickets-for-president-trump-rally-campaign-manager-tweets "More than 1 million ticket requests for Trump rally, campaign manager tweets" There was a link on Reddit to order tickets. I've reserved 2 and got a conformation. So a Canadian living in northern Thailand is on the list. I'll take their numbers with a dash of salt 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted June 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said: 2 hours ago, webfact said: The spike in new cases on Wednesday and over the last two weeks points to a troubling trend in the United States, where cases have risen nationally after falling for more than a month. Odd to see this spike being blamed on Trump's rally that didn't even happen yet. That is because they are NOT blaming it on the Trump rally that has not even happened. After a lull Wuhan 19 spiked back up in many states, including Soonerville. Maybe not the best time to have a bunch of screaming people inside ... in an enclosed space. But hey if it is good for President Trump what harm could come from it. Edited June 18, 2020 by LomSak27 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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