loong Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: “Several foreign companies, especially from Taiwan, South Korea and countries in the Middle East and Europe want Thai workers because they are known to be hard-working and disciplined. I've no doubt that the Thai workers abroad are known to be hard working and disciplined. That is because those workers are those that have the gumption to get out and make a better life for themselves. I don't believe that can be said for the majority of Thai workers that I have experienced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deerculler Posted June 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2020 It is just political clap trap. He knows it will not happen or could work. Only wants to make himself look good. Just makes him look more stupid. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 This is the Chinese model. China sent tens of thousands of these characters into Africa. IN Zambia, it became normal to hear of Chinese getting caught for burglaries and shoplifting/. IN Zambia!! Part of the deal with China was that China paid a certain amount per con (or ex-con) to be given the visa. That money just disappeared into the president and his cronioes' pockets (of course). The other thing was that China started sending really, really old people across, well past working age. I am sure this is some sort of scam. Massive backlash in Zambia now with Chinese being killed and businesses burnt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, saminoz said: This is the Chinese model. China sent tens of thousands of these characters into Africa. IN Zambia, it became normal to hear of Chinese getting caught for burglaries and shoplifting/. IN Zambia!! Part of the deal with China was that China paid a certain amount per con (or ex-con) to be given the visa. That money just disappeared into the president and his cronioes' pockets (of course). The other thing was that China started sending really, really old people across, well past working age. I am sure this is some sort of scam. Massive backlash in Zambia now with Chinese being killed and businesses burnt. Probably a form of banishment for crimes against the current government and authority. One way to deal with dissidents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Minister plans to turn convicts into a formidable workforce to send abroad A formidable workforce that Thailand doesn't want ? CV would make interesting reading: English skills... I com fom Thailand.. Education. 5 years elementary Skills: Drinking alcohol & gambling... trick motorcycling. Previous work experience: shop-lifting, petty theft, auto/cycle theft, road side snatches, pick-pocketing, drugs, violence. Driving licence... 555 Edited June 23, 2020 by hotchilli 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Nothing wrong with reforming prisoners and giving them jobs. Great idea, in fact. But sending them to foreign countries especially during a pandemic? The dumbest idea I've ever heard. Thailand is in dire straits, and reportedly there are millions of unemployed. Why not focus on getting the country back to full employment, fire the Burmese and Cambodians who are taking away jobs from Thais and THEN IF and only IF foreign countries have a demand for Thai workers, send them abroad then? I think the day when the Thai economy will be back to decent shape is a long way off, therefore, no Thai should even think about leaving the country right now, and probably isn't even being admitted to a foreign country anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, saminoz said: This is the Chinese model. China sent tens of thousands of these characters into Africa. IN Zambia, it became normal to hear of Chinese getting caught for burglaries and shoplifting/. IN Zambia!! Part of the deal with China was that China paid a certain amount per con (or ex-con) to be given the visa. That money just disappeared into the president and his cronioes' pockets (of course). The other thing was that China started sending really, really old people across, well past working age. I am sure this is some sort of scam. Massive backlash in Zambia now with Chinese being killed and businesses burnt. Interesting. China is a little different to Thailand in the sense that China has a huge diaspora abroad. The Chinese can seemingly live anywhere on Earth, even under the toughest conditions, as long as they can escape China, they don't care. Thais are generally not as keen on escaping from their homeland, except if they're political dissidents. The Thai diaspora mostly consists of 2 categories: 1) Thais married to westerners living in the west or 2) university students studying in the west, with a few who've decided to stay on after finishing their studies, but not necessarily indefinitely. They remain in their Thai-speaking "bubbles". The majority of Thai women living in the west long-term, even in category 2) are married to, or in relationships with westerners who are native citizens of the countries they live in. The Chinese aren't big on inter-racial or inter-national relationships. Sure, some occur, but generally speaking, you either see a lone Chinese male living abroad, occasionally hooking up with a local, but usually only if it's in another Asian country where the cultural differences are smaller, or an entire Chinese family goes to live somewhere like Zambia. Chinese-western or Chinese-African relationships occur, but to a far lesser extent than in the case of Thais. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, saminoz said: This is the Chinese model. China sent tens of thousands of these characters into Africa. IN Zambia, it became normal to hear of Chinese getting caught for burglaries and shoplifting/. IN Zambia!! Part of the deal with China was that China paid a certain amount per con (or ex-con) to be given the visa. That money just disappeared into the president and his cronioes' pockets (of course). The other thing was that China started sending really, really old people across, well past working age. I am sure this is some sort of scam. Massive backlash in Zambia now with Chinese being killed and businesses burnt. I forgot to mention, same thing starting to happen in Cambodia, especially Sihanoukville. Most of the criminal activity, usually involving gangland murders, kidnappings, extortion etc. involves Chinese nationals in that city. Some of the incidents are between Cambodians and Chinese, which has led to a lot of resentment among the native Cambodian population, who, along with a small number of western expats, have mostly been driven out of the city in recent years. I wouldn't be surprised if one day, an anti-Chinese riot takes place in Cambodia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Minister plans to turn convicts into a formidable workforce to send abroad Following the British model they will be sent to Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 hours ago, snoop1130 said: In a move to help convicts start a new life after prison, Justice Minister Somsak Thepsutin is planning to launch a campaign to boost their professional and language skills so they can find work overseas. only in Thailand... breaking & entering ? overseas companies will not ask for a certificate of good behavior ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack100 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Maybe there is some sort of crazy logic to this - I was involved with a Thai crew in Africa and they were brilliant - even better than the other English speaking workers in the Asian region . I must say It was a bit of a disappointment when I employed a couple of Thais to do up my condo in Thailand - mostly missing in action two or three days a week etc . I now realize the Thais working abroad were the cream of the crop. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 hours ago, saminoz said: This is the Chinese model. China sent tens of thousands of these characters into Africa. IN Zambia, it became normal to hear of Chinese getting caught for burglaries and shoplifting/. IN Zambia!! Part of the deal with China was that China paid a certain amount per con (or ex-con) to be given the visa. That money just disappeared into the president and his cronioes' pockets (of course). The other thing was that China started sending really, really old people across, well past working age. I am sure this is some sort of scam. Massive backlash in Zambia now with Chinese being killed and businesses burnt. May we see a link please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 hours ago, tifino said: India would like them - to supplement their northern border attrition The big problem with that idea is : would they fight for their employers or they countries tourism golden goose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litlos Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 20 hours ago, Odysseus123 said: Geez...sounds like the Admiralty in 1787. Let's export our convicts to Botany Bay...great beaches..hopping kangaroos..and the odd waltzing Matilda or two. The British actually started transportation as a penalty in 1610 when they were transported to " its overseas colonies in the Americas". It only stopped to the colonies in the Americas when the cousins over there got a bit uppity and revolted. Something called the war of independence ensued and the colonies with assistance from France prevailed. So a new destination for the non conforming bread stealing swine was required as well as political prisoners. On the original post, is this guy needs his meds adjusted. Try working overseas with a criminal conviction, doable but not easy. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 hours ago, snoop1130 said: to develop help inmates develop handicraft-making and English-language skills No, no Somchai, it's not 'I shank you' But 'I will shank you.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 If prostitution is legalized, and the working Girls can work abroad ( and legally send money back as Earnings ) and all these Ex Cons are sent abroad to work, the Gov,t has quite a money stream coming in from these sources. I dont know what the perception of Thailand would be Globally for this little exercise. And as for ( a correctional Facility turned Industrial Estate )Words fail me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunano Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Every time I read reports like this I'm getting more worried what future Thailand has if any with such morons at the helm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Lol buffoons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 5:58 PM, keith101 said: What country in their right mind would accept convicted criminals from Thailand into their country let alone into their workforce . but they "are hard and good workers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy one Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 6:31 PM, Odysseus123 said: Geez...sounds like the Admiralty in 1787. Let's export our convicts to Botany Bay...great beaches..hopping kangaroos..and the odd waltzing Matilda or two. And I'm glad they did or I would not have any skeletons in my closet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1. Labour shortage in Thailand resulting in migrant workers sending cash out of the country. 2. Which countries are going to give work visas to known ex-convicts? 3. If they can teach cons English, why cant they teach it properly to Thai students? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Australia springs to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 5:51 PM, snoop1130 said: hard-working and disciplined Where has this myth arisen? Generally they are shiftless, lazy and have no idea what a day's work looks like. That's why they have to import proper workers from surrounding countries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, mikebell said: Where has this myth arisen? Generally they are shiftless, lazy and have no idea what a day's work looks like. That's why they have to import proper workers from surrounding countries. As I posted earlier, Thai workers abroad may well have a good reputation. Those who are shiftless, lazy and have no idea what a day's work looks like are not going to have the get-up-and-go to go abroad to work. There are many hard working Thai people, but they generally see little reward for their efforts, those are the type that will go to work in a different country. Those are the type that give Thai workers abroad a good reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 where are we headed for jack ? """ i think Somchai mentioned a place called Tasmania !"" that sounds ok jack ! "" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poskat Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 "Several foreign companies, especially from Taiwan, South Korea and countries in the Middle East and Europe want Thai workers because they are known to be hard-working and disciplined." this makes sense as it is well researched and been clearly determined that those who end up in prison are bountifully endowed with these characteristics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 1:35 PM, Traubert said: May we see a link please? https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/05/china/china-zambia-murder-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.dw.com/en/resistance-growing-to-chinese-presence-in-zambia/a-47275927 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-11568485 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB1986 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 It might be connected with overcrowded prisons, and they expecting more civil unrest in next few months because of bad economic situatuin, so they will send bad guys out for they can have space for things that i am sure are coming... Who will survive on 5000 thb, millions out of work, Junta targeting wealthy tourists and ruining economy even more while they are filling their offshore accounts... Welcome to Thailand 2020 the prosperous country, same as PM said Thailand 2015-2020 global force....all i see what happened is massive influx of Chinese and more unemployed people. Thats is his achievements in 5 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, NB1986 said: ruining economy even more while they are filling their offshore accounts... Welcome to Thailand 2020 the prosperous country, same as PM said Thailand 2015-2020 global force....all i see what happened is massive influx of Chinese and more unemployed people. Thats is his achievements in 5 years. please be a bit more specific with your assumptions .... Do you have proof that they are filling their offshore accounts ? or is this a false accusation ? Who is they & their ? Ruining economy ? please explain what actually happened. What has an influx of Chinese got to do with the Topic at hand ? and what has the Chinese got to do with the unemployed ? Thanks. I'm waiting with baited breath ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, mikebell said: Where has this myth arisen? Generally they are shiftless, lazy and have no idea what a day's work looks like. That's why they have to import proper workers from surrounding countries. some are good workers and many are lazy .... I've worked with diligent thais and lazy sit back thais. Same in any country ..... I wouldn't say they were any better than other countries. I found the Irish to be the best workers. Edited June 24, 2020 by steven100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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