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I had the same Turkey idea but the Thai person will go into quarantine when returning to Thailand.

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On 6/25/2020 at 8:41 AM, micmichd said:

If it would be really reciprocal then Thais shouldn't need a visa for the Schengen area at all if they stay no longer than 4 weeks. 

The risk is that Thais are likely to abscond and work illegally in Europe, therefore I can't see there being a visa exemption for Thai citizens until the country becomes substantially wealthier, in other words, almost as rich as European countries are. At minimum, Thailand would have to be on par with Poland or Romania in terms of incomes before such an offer could be proposed. At the moment, most Thais are about as poor as Ukrainians, so there is some way to go.

 

New Zealand previously offered Thais visa-free entry, but when half the Thais who went to New Zealand didn't return home, NZ cancelled the visa waiver and now has strict conditions in place for Thais to seek a visa.

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I don't think the consulates with be granting Type-C visas or even accepting applications at this time.

People who have existing long-stay (Type D-work) visas as still enter Schengen with no problems.

 

Best to wait it out for a month or two more - Schengen borders are still in flux.

 

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I see a few problems getting a tourist visa right now. First how to apply while VSF global offices are still not open. I have no experience with the Embassy of the UK but for Schengen Embassies they won't issue any tourist or family visit visa right now. Maybe the next month but my guess is not earlier then august 1st. Again just guessing. Also how the UK or the Schengen would react if Thailand refuses entry to their citizens while Thai people can visit the UK or a Schengen country. 

 

Choosing what's the best visa it depends. My Thai gf got a tourist first. later I preferred the family visit option. The paperwork ain't the main issue. Proof that your GF will return is the most difficult part. Proof of property (car,house) , family ( children, sick parents) or a job ( proof of a contract)  can help. Dumping a lot of money on her bankbook will sometimes cause suspicion. 

 

Finally there aren't many regular flights out of thailand right now. It seems that Thailand is keeping their citizen in a lockdown. Finally keep in mind that the moment your Thai gf will return she might have to stay at hotel for 14 days at her own expenses before being allowed to return home. 

 

Anyway I am in a similar situation so lets hope for the best. 

 

 

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On 6/26/2020 at 10:16 PM, rasg said:

Why worry about bringing her to Europe? A Thai can travel visa free to Turkey when things are vaguely back to normal. Or they were the last time I looked. Some beautiful places in Turkey.

That is not a bad idea at all. I just have no concept of whether we'd be able to distance in Turkey or whether you get crowded when you go out over there. I'm not saying you do - I just don't know. Then there's the problem raised by Dr Beach:

On 6/26/2020 at 7:26 AM, drbeach said:

Well the other thing is, I can't see how a Thai tourist would be able to leave for Europe and then return to Thailand, if they need to apply for permission to return and then do a 2-week quarantine upon arrival back home. It would basically ensure the number of Thai tourists is basically zero. What company would allow a Thai to go on holidays to Europe (or even a business trip) and then have that person away for an unknown number of weeks?

Plus immigration are well aware of that problem, so might doubt whether the plan really was to go back (or if so whether it was realistic).

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On 6/23/2020 at 7:38 PM, JHicks said:

You could certainly argue that, but then I have to deal with the situation as it is and I can't really help whether it's fair or not. The other side of the argument is that from an EU point of view Thailand is an extremely low risk country, but from a Thai point of view pretty much anywhere in Europe is a high risk country. On top of that, mindsets are very different - so I'm not that surprised to see the EU announcing that it's going to open up to low risk countries in the coming weeks, when Thailand is being much more cautious.

 

The risk on the Thai side is more that if she left she'd have to do 2 weeks quarantine on return, I guess.

 

Anyway, I'd still like to know the odds of getting a visa. I don't think it costs that much to apply so we could just try and see, but I don't want to get her hopes up if it doesn't fly.

Europe is a country? I thought it was a continent.

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6 hours ago, kno77 said:

I see a few problems getting a tourist visa right now. First how to apply while VSF global offices are still not open. I have no experience with the Embassy of the UK but for Schengen Embassies they won't issue any tourist or family visit visa right now. Maybe the next month but my guess is not earlier then august 1st. Again just guessing. Also how the UK or the Schengen would react if Thailand refuses entry to their citizens while Thai people can visit the UK or a Schengen country. 

 

Choosing what's the best visa it depends. My Thai gf got a tourist first. later I preferred the family visit option. The paperwork ain't the main issue. Proof that your GF will return is the most difficult part. Proof of property (car,house) , family ( children, sick parents) or a job ( proof of a contract)  can help. Dumping a lot of money on her bankbook will sometimes cause suspicion. 

 

Finally there aren't many regular flights out of thailand right now. It seems that Thailand is keeping their citizen in a lockdown. Finally keep in mind that the moment your Thai gf will return she might have to stay at hotel for 14 days at her own expenses before being allowed to return home. 

 

Anyway I am in a similar situation so lets hope for the best. 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, varun said:

I don't think the consulates with be granting Type-C visas or even accepting applications at this time.

 

You can apply to a few countries "in anticipation of the current restrictions being lifted". At least one (Estonia) is taking postal applications. I would think external borders will be open by 1 Aug and am sure Thailand will be on the whitelist because of the low incidence over there, but yeah there's the problem of what happens on return. There's been a bit of "if you're not having our people we're not having yours" but that's really been internal squabbling and I think the member states would follow EU guidance when it came to Thailand. If it's harder for Thais to get into the EU a couple of months from now than it normally is, it will be because EU immigration authorities aren't clear on how they're going to be able to get back to Thailand.

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Otherwise I couldn't see a problem.

But in the current situation, probably better not to travel at all.

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On 6/30/2020 at 3:14 PM, kno77 said:

Indeed

Indeed but how will the EU react if THailand will not open their borders? 

 

The EU has agreed to open the borders to Thai nationals without the requirement that Thailand do the same for the nationals of EU member states.

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9 hours ago, Maestro said:

 

The EU has agreed to open the borders to Thai nationals without the requirement that Thailand do the same for the nationals of EU member states.

Strange that the EU has demanded reciprocity from China, but not Thailand, in this matter.

 

Aside from a few business travelers, there are FAR more Europeans visiting Thailand than China. Even in Shanghai and Beijing, you have to look hard and wide to spot a westerner, unlike in many parts of Thailand, where they outnumber locals in some instances.

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On 6/29/2020 at 11:34 PM, JHicks said:

 

 

You can apply to a few countries "in anticipation of the current restrictions being lifted". At least one (Estonia) is taking postal applications. I would think external borders will be open by 1 Aug and am sure Thailand will be on the whitelist because of the low incidence over there, but yeah there's the problem of what happens on return. There's been a bit of "if you're not having our people we're not having yours" but that's really been internal squabbling and I think the member states would follow EU guidance when it came to Thailand. If it's harder for Thais to get into the EU a couple of months from now than it normally is, it will be because EU immigration authorities aren't clear on how they're going to be able to get back to Thailand.

Right now the situation is fuzzy. My GF tells me that airlines in Bangkok are refusing Thai tourists with a valid Schengen visa because these airlines fear that suppose there would be a second covid outbreak they cannot return on that ticket. Although some countries (Netherlands,France,Germany) are following the advice made at july 1st. Belgium,Italy,Hungary and Denmark closed their borders for tourists outside Schengen countries. It seems that Austria is not allowing transits. All rumours. The german embassy in Bangkok is clear. No tourists unless regular flights are starting. Their VSF global still closed. My guess after august 1st. 

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On 7/7/2020 at 12:02 PM, kno77 said:

Right now the situation is fuzzy. My GF tells me that airlines in Bangkok are refusing Thai tourists with a valid Schengen visa because these airlines fear that suppose there would be a second covid outbreak they cannot return on that ticket. Although some countries (Netherlands,France,Germany) are following the advice made at july 1st. Belgium,Italy,Hungary and Denmark closed their borders for tourists outside Schengen countries. It seems that Austria is not allowing transits. All rumours. The german embassy in Bangkok is clear. No tourists unless regular flights are starting. Their VSF global still closed. My guess after august 1st. 

Today I got a confirmed story of a Thai with a Schengen Visa short stay (issued earlier before Corona) who arrived at Amsterdam airport. She was not stopped when checking in at Bangkok airport. 

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