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The week that was in Thailand news: Thailand: Still sweeping the sex industry under the carpet of denial

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11 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

And, I am a bit sympathetic to Thais who dislike Thailand's reputation; how would you feel if the very first thought people had of your country was along the lines of "Ahh! Ping-pong balls, right?"

I think Thai's think this a lot more than is actually reality. I had no clue about it until my 2nd time going to Thailand. Also, I don't think most people would pay the airfare and hotel stay to travel to Thailand for sex and bars, what a waste of money. It is a shame that Thai's think this way about their own country, when in reality, I don't think it is true, at least not in my experience.

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3 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

Western countries and Muslim countries on the other hand, do sweep EVERYTHING under the carpet

Is that why marijuana is becoming legalized or at least more tolerated in western societies and why some western countries even allow prostitution? Is your statement experience or projection? I can't say the same for Muslim countries since I'm neither from there nor lived there.

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12 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

I don't really frequent bars or partake in the delightful... er... ahem... 'nightlife' anymore, although I do have fond memories of doing so long ago. And, I am a bit sympathetic to Thais who dislike Thailand's reputation; how would you feel if the very first thought people had of your country was along the lines of "Ahh! Ping-pong balls, right?"

 

That said, to deny the reality of the 'working girl' in Thailand is simply to deny reality. I don't think I have ever visited a town of any size that didn't have an establishment or two; who hasn't noticed that ubiquitous building, closed in daytime, either on the edge of town or slightly adjacent to the local cop shop? What is remarkable is visiting a town and not seeing it.

 

I suspect that most long-term residents in Asia view it all the same general way as I do; as long as it is not forced I have no strong feelings; it is simply one element of life on the continent and not that much different from a fisherman, a day labourer or a market seller.

 

However, if the current government is going to try to stamp it out, I would make two points. 

 

First, hiding it and/or forcing things further underground is a wicked thing to do. Although it is illegal in Thailand, it does seem that the girls have some protections based on societal/cultural norms; it does not seem like it is in other countries where the girls are drug-using pieces of meat to be traded, used up and thrown away.

 

Secondly, if the girls can't access this method of earning money, it is incumbent on the government to provide alternate means for them to earn; that means better education, greater investment in their well-being and enhanced economic opportunities.

 

Taking away economic opportunities without providing alternatives is an evil thing to do.

 

 

Having bricks and mortar places where 'undesirable things' go on has been losing ground for a decade or more since every 'social worker' could make herself available on-line. This covid situation might have locked the doors of such establishments for good. How that and the domination of freelancers over those working in bars is working to safeguard the girls now and in the future remains to be seen. As to a more formalised system, such as in Singapore, working in Thailand, I can't see it being allowed for a very long time.

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4 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

yaaaawn. Nothing is "swept under the carpet. " Its all in the open, and working girls hardly try to keep their profesion a secret from family and friends. Because, Thailand is a great and non judgemental country, you can be yourself, wether lady boy, gay, bar girl, people will not judge you. What a great lesson wr can learn from that.

 

Western countries and Muslim countries on the other hand, do sweep EVERYTHING under the carpet though what doesnt fit them and their narrowmindedbelieves. Repressive controlling systems. 

 

Lucky to live in Thailand. Great country, great civilization.

 

I think you have really missed the subtelty of Thai society.  The groups you list are tolerated not accepted. If they were accepted then katoeys would be able to change their gender status on their cards and not be constantly used a comic clowns on TV.  They would be in more jobs than in teh service industries and they would be in higher positions. Bar girls constantly hide what they do from their families and many see bar work as a cathariticp punishment for perceived misdemeanours either from their present or past lives; terms used to desrcribe them is 'sia khon' (polluted person); tom boys are tolerated by parents as they are a safe way for their daughters to learn the conventions of relationships.  

We are lucky to live here but look deeper at the depth of this society tha you do at present.  Many, many layers to it.

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5 hours ago, Ketyo said:

From my understanding its the Christians and Muslims that want to ban the sex industry. And the reason for that is because they want people to spend more time praying under their control. Everybody else thinks that sex is a good thing.

To be honest, I always thought that both groups, to neither of whose beliefs I subscribe, were the majority market for the oldest profession, worldwide. 

 

Don't do as I do, do as I tell you.

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don,t forget the short time rooms in the village that people use.both parties use them.everyone knows they exist but nothing is said about them.they worry about the bars and go go bars that have existed for many decades

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If Thailand wants to hide the sex trade under the carpet it will have to be a huge carpet.  I suspect it would qualify as the highest point in Thailand if all the girls (and boys) participating in the sex trade were stacked up under the carpet.

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On 6/27/2020 at 6:40 AM, rooster59 said:

What I detected was an unwillingness to accept the truth of how millions of Thais earned their living and gained access to funds for their extended families.

 

Millions?

 

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If you frequently hang out with whores then of course you will get a biased view of Thailand because almost every woman you meet is another whore.

 

Thailand has a population of 69 million.

 

Half of the population is female or ~35 million.

 

I doubt even 10% of Thai women are prostitutes.

 

Probably more like 1% or 350,000. 😘

 

 

 

 

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Thanks for giving me the weekly news Rooster with some chuckles.

  I hope that Thailand stays cautious and does not let Americans, or Brazil people

in until they get their acts together and take the virus seriously.

  Good luck with your high season in October or November when it starts.

Geezer

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"Becoming something of an expert during my steadfast research"

 

I suppose more honest than "playing golf".

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People want to have sex. This is such a basic human instinct. The sex industry in the US is far larger than it is here according to very well informed sources. However, it is well hidden. And therefore infinitely more dangerous for the women involved. Here it is more open. And safer for all parties. 

 

The country is being led by dinosaurs. They are fake puritans. It is all about appearance and has absolutely nothing to do with reform, self discipline, honor, integrity and righteousness. It is a totally hollow quest for an appearance of purity, with no substance behind it. This type of hypocrisy must be resisted at all times, and paid no regard. 

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On 6/28/2020 at 6:13 PM, siamsev said:

I think you have really missed the subtelty of Thai society.  The groups you list are tolerated not accepted.

Same goes for farangs. The level of tolerance depends on the magnitude of the cash flow - which is always one way only.

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