UK ready to quit EU on 'Australia terms' if no Brexit deal, Johnson says

[paddypower]

13 hours ago, vogie said:

Keir Starmer is only the leader, the Tories are still well ahead of Labour.

'Well ahead' is a relative term, is it not?

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[vogie]

22 minutes ago, paddypower said:

'Well ahead' is a relative term, is it not?

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Starmer pretending to be Mr Nice Guy does not make Labour electable. Bending the knee to a anti-semetic BLM movement will come back to haunt him.

[paddypower]

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

Starmer pretending to be Mr Nice Guy does not make Labour electable. Bending the knee to a anti-semetic BLM movement will come back to haunt him.

I agree. i was unsuccessful at posting this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Opinion_polling> It suggests that since April, when the fanatical Labour party elements seem to be on their way out, thanks to Starmer's appointment as party leader. My observation is that there is now a 6-7 point gap in popularity betweent the 2 parties ( LibDem's being toast). Could Starmers leadership be having a tangible effect? It is all very short term, so who knows?

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, paddypower said:

I agree. i was unsuccessful at posting this <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_United_Kingdom_general_election#Opinion_polling> It suggests that since April, when the fanatical Labour party elements seem to be on their way out, thanks to Starmer's appointment as party leader. My observation is that there is now a 6-7 point gap in popularity betweent the 2 parties ( LibDem's being toast). Could Starmers leadership be having a tangible effect? It is all very short term, so who knows?

There is no doubt in my mind that Starmer has to be an improvement of the old Jeremy Corbyn, but there again anybody would be an improvement, but there is still too much dead wood in Starmers cabinet.

As this poll suggests Starmer is out-polling his party.

 

[simple1]

59 minutes ago, vogie said:

Starmer pretending to be Mr Nice Guy does not make Labour electable. Bending the knee to a anti-semetic BLM movement will come back to haunt him.

The right of centre continually indulge in the practice of smearing opponents, would have more credibility, if that is possible, for ceasing such activity. An article from the Times of Israel supportive of Starmer efforts to address anti Semitism.

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-uk-labour-head-is-flushing-out-anti-semitism-where-will-he-stand-on-israel/

 

 

[david555]

Wow Boris loosing the popularity ....and he was "such a jolly good fellow " before...????

Could it be the Brits want to see results,solutions ,and not only promises ...BTW ..did those 50 000 nurses arrived already as long promised  by him ....????

It seems the mumbo jumbe talk does not work anymore for him ????

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/keir-starmer-overtakes-boris-johnson-as-publics-preferred-choice-for-prime-minister-new-poll-shows

Edited July 13, 2020 by david555

[transam]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Wow Boris loosing the popularity ....and he was "such a jolly good fellow " before...????

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/keir-starmer-overtakes-boris-johnson-as-publics-preferred-choice-for-prime-minister-new-poll-shows

And still is for us Brexit folk, eh..............Sadly, not for you though...????

[vogie]

18 minutes ago, david555 said:

Wow Boris loosing the popularity ....and he was "such a jolly good fellow " before...????

Could it be the Brits want to see results,solutions ,and not only promises ...BTW ..did those 50 000 nurses arrived already as long promised  by him ....????

It seems the mumbo jumbe talk does not work anymore for him ????

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/keir-starmer-overtakes-boris-johnson-as-publics-preferred-choice-for-prime-minister-new-poll-shows

I honestly think you have more to be worried about than your daily dose of Boris bashing. Starmer overtaking Boris in the opinion polls will be of little or no help to Belgium when we finally start trading globally, it has been estimated that there will be 42,000 job losses across Belgium should there be a no deal Brexit, which no one would deny that looks indeed like the most possibly outcome. Belgium is the UKs fourth largest trading partner and is responsible for 8% of its exports and 5% of its imports.

[nauseus]

55 minutes ago, david555 said:

Wow Boris loosing the popularity ....and he was "such a jolly good fellow " before...????

Could it be the Brits want to see results,solutions ,and not only promises ...BTW ..did those 50 000 nurses arrived already as long promised  by him ....????

It seems the mumbo jumbe talk does not work anymore for him ????

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/keir-starmer-overtakes-boris-johnson-as-publics-preferred-choice-for-prime-minister-new-poll-shows

It never worked for you either.

[transam]

58 minutes ago, david555 said:

Wow Boris loosing the popularity ....and he was "such a jolly good fellow " before...????

Could it be the Brits want to see results,solutions ,and not only promises ...BTW ..did those 50 000 nurses arrived already as long promised  by him ....????

It seems the mumbo jumbe talk does not work anymore for him ????

 

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/keir-starmer-overtakes-boris-johnson-as-publics-preferred-choice-for-prime-minister-new-poll-shows

So the UK can pull, in an instant, 50,000 nurses out of a hat.?

You really are scrapping the barrel, "Oh EU one".  Tut-tut.... ????

[david555]

32 minutes ago, transam said:

So the UK can pull, in an instant, 50,000 nurses out of a hat.?

You really are scrapping the barrel, "Oh EU one".  Tut-tut.... ????

No ….but it seems Boris could ….by his talking ????

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[david555]

37 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It never worked for you either.

I don't have to run a country ...he is supposed to do that ….????

[transam]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

No ….but it seems Boris could ….by his talking ????

Twisting stuff again, don't you get tired of posting it....? ????

[david555]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Twisting stuff again, don't you get tired of posting it....? ????

Nope...and neither do you seems . the 50 000 nurses he promised already many month's ago ...before the corona virus started ....emberasing  if you can not reply it correct  isn't it ????

[transam]

2 minutes ago, david555 said:

Nope...and neither do you seems . the 50 000 nurses he promised already many month's ago ...before the corona virus started ....emberasing  if you can not reply it correct  isn't it ????

You are doing your usual stuff and twisting facts, you do not know what is happening in the pipeline, you  just spout not realising most here know your game.

 

So tell me, why has the UK gov relaxed visa criteria for those wishing to come to the UK for nursing....

Can you do that, without twisting facts...?

[bannork]

What borders on stupidity?

Scotland and Wales.

[paddypower]

5 hours ago, vogie said:

There is no doubt in my mind that Starmer has to be an improvement of the old Jeremy Corbyn, but there again anybody would be an improvement, but there is still too much dead wood in Starmers cabinet.

As this poll suggests Starmer is out-polling his party.

 

veeerrry interesting. tks. agree about corbyn. was there ever the abbreviation ''ABC'' (anyone but corbyn) ?

[tebee]

Read and weep - this is what we have let ourselves in for. Mass loss of rights and ease of trading with the EU. Why is any company that wants to trade with the EU going want to based in the UK anymore?

 

 

 https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/brexit_files/info_site/com_2020_324_2_communication_from_commission_to_inst_en_0.pdf

[paddypower]

16 minutes ago, tebee said:

Read and weep - this is what we have let ourselves in for. Mass loss of rights and ease of trading with the EU. Why is any company that wants to trade with the EU going want to based in the UK anymore?

 

 

 https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/brexit_files/info_site/com_2020_324_2_communication_from_commission_to_inst_en_0.pdf

thanks for the link.Fasinating reading. I went straight to B.1. Financial services- as that is where there may be a lot of carnage. Anyone reading this will realize that the UK appears to be playing footsie in a game which they do not appear to recognise how dangerous it is. Or do they not care, because so long as the tax evasion schemes remain safe - who cares.

[evadgib]

15 minutes ago, paddypower said:

thanks for the link.Fasinating reading. I went straight to B.1. Financial services- as that is where there may be a lot of carnage. Anyone reading this will realize that the UK appears to be playing footsie in a game which they do not appear to recognise how dangerous it is. Or do they not care, because so long as the tax evasion schemes remain safe - who cares.

That's right up there with the millennium bug. Project fear/Nonsense.

[tebee]

20 minutes ago, evadgib said:

That's right up there with the millennium bug. Project fear/Nonsense.

This is no longer project fear, this is project reality, this is what you voted for.

 

This is what's going to happen in 6 months or so, no matter what happens in the negotiations between now and then.

 

You may not have realized when you voted for it, just like a lot of MPs seem not to realize the consequences of the withdrawal agreement when they voted for it, but these are the inevitable consequences of Brexit.   

[RuamRudy]

30 minutes ago, evadgib said:

That's right up there with the millennium bug. Project fear/Nonsense.

Of course, the millennium bug was a real threat and only through the systematic diligence and hard work of many people was catastrophe averted in many industries. For Brexit, we have Grayling, Johnson and Gove to save the day. 

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Of course, the millennium bug was a real threat and only through the systematic diligence and hard work of many people was catastrophe averted in many industries. For Brexit, we have Grayling, Johnson and Gove to save the day. 

You're lucky you don't have Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnal.

[evadgib]

By Valentines day there'll be daylight between ???????? & ???????? with the latter in our rear view mirror.

[paddypower]

35 minutes ago, evadgib said:

That's right up there with the millennium bug. Project fear/Nonsense.

I fear for you ????  May I refer you to the EU's plans, issued to all member countries:

for background: currently, each sector of UK financial services has a single authorization or 'passport' allowing free trade with any member country of the UE which also holds a similar passport. .

On Jan1, 2021, that disappears. New rules will be needed and the current negotiations are about the EU granting 'equivalencies' to each financial sector in the UK. Getting an 'equivalence' is equal to getting approval that UK regulations are equivalent to EU.

here is the shocker: (quote)

'The Political Declaration on the future relationship states that both the European Union and the United Kingdom will endeavour to conclude their respective equivalence assessments before the end of June 2020. The Commission shared with the United Kingdom questionnaires covering 28 equivalence areas. By the end of June, only 4 completed questionnaires from the UK financial sector had been returned''.

 

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“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one that is most responsive to change”.Charles Darwin

 

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, tebee said:

This is no longer project fear, this is project reality, this is what you voted for.

 

This is what's going to happen in 6 months or so, no matter what happens in the negotiations between now and then.

 

You may not have realized when you voted for it, just like a lot of MPs seem not to realize the consequences of the withdrawal agreement when they voted for it, but these are the inevitable consequences of Brexit.   

And so we come full-circle, to the "you didn't know what you were voting for" line. I disagree, of course, but it may be fair to assume that many people were not aware of the full consequences of their choice, at least from the economic aspect. That said, the same may be said about the vote to stay in the EEC in 1975, when most were totally unaware of the long-planned morphing of this apparent "economic community" into a full political union and superstate. But I think that far more Britons are aware of the true intentions of the EU now, which is good.  

[RuamRudy]

7 minutes ago, vogie said:

You're lucky you don't have Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnal.

I had a minor part in the Y2K furore - I had to review and assess the threat it posed on Shell's very first platform in the North Sea, the Auk Alpha. Built in the early 70s, this place ran on what we called 'wind and p!ss' and had next to no automation or DCS. After months of reviewing virtually every component on the place, we concluded that the biggest (and only) threat came from the running machine in the gym in case someone was on it at midnight and it stopped, slamming them into the wall. The mitigation measure, therefore, was to hang a sign on it saying 'do not use at midnight on 31/12/99'. 

[david555]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/travelling-after-brexit-passport-europe-roaming/
 

With less than six months until the end of the Brexit transition period, Britons are starting to learn more about the new restrictions they will face when travelling to Europe. 

 

Today, the Government will begin an advertising blitz to help Britain prepare for life outside the UK, and – while uncertainty remains – for travellers it seems higher costs and more red tape will be unavoidable. 

Here is what we know so far about the key areas: 
Passports and visas
Currently, anyone visiting an EU country only needs a passport that is valid for the proposed duration of their stay. From January 1, however, they will need to have at least six months of validity on their travel documents. 
Millions of Britons whose passports are due to expire in the next year are being urged to apply for a new one now, a situation which is likely to cause a stampede of renewals at UK passport offices. 

 

 

more...(much more...)

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[david555]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/12/government-spend-700m-readying-uk-border-brexit

Holidaymakers urged to take out extra travel insurance post-Brexit 

People going abroad will need to take out policy that includes health, as EHIC runs out on 31 December

 

Ministers are urging people to take out comprehensive travel insurance if they are heading abroad from January as they announce plans to plough £700m into a new border trategy.From Monday a new marketing campaign to get the public prepared for life after the Brexit transition period will include TV, radio and digital adverts. Advice for people in Northern Ireland is set to follow in a few weeks’ time as negotiations with the EU continue.

As well as reminding people about insurance and checking passports are in date, the adverts will also be targeted at businesses exporting to or importing from the EU, reminding them to get an economic operators registration and identification number, or to register with the relevant customs authority.The new advice is part of the government’s ‘The UK’s new start: let’s get going’ campaign.

Holidaymakers will need to take out insurance that covers health as the European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) will only be valid up to 31 December 2020. Anyone wanting to travel to Europe with a pet from 1 January 2021 needs to contact their vet four months in advance.

Edited July 13, 2020 by david555

[welovesundaysatspace]

 

 

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

 

Today, the Government will begin an advertising blitz to help Britain prepare for life outside the UK, and – while uncertainty remains – for travellers it seems higher costs and more red tape will be unavoidable. 
 

Cummings, Gove and BoJo are just spreading project fear!