webfact Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Covid-19: Pictures of raw human emotion drive home devastating effect of pandemic on workers Picture: Daily News Netizens in Thailand reacted in large numbers to a post about two people having to part due to the coronavirus pandemic. There were tears and hugs as a pick-up was loaded with personal possessions and one of the ladies was set to return home to Buriram. It appeared on a Facebook fan page and appeared to be workers parting. Daily News said in a commentary that the pandemic has caused damage to health, the economy and tourism. There have been widespread redundancies and business closures. The pictures on Facebook encapsulated the human economic tragedy. The media said that workers were being laid off by companies throughout Thailand. Elsewhere the worst unemployment figures in 20 years were reported. Source: Daily News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-06-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, webfact said: widespread redundancies and business closures. workers were being laid off by companies throughout Thailand. worst unemployment figures in 20 years Once again proving Thailand's cure is far worse than the actual disease. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: Once again proving Thailand's cure is far worse than the actual disease. That is a bit of a sad thing to say. We cannot say if that is true. Perhaps the cure saved 10,000's of lives? Maybe more. The UK and USA did not take the cure until too late. The Swedes did not take the cure at all. We are all safer here because of it. I may not agree with almost all that this group in charge do, but I was happy to be 'locked down'. 9 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 0.1% mortality rate... OH and suicides or rise https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/16/874198026/the-cost-of-thailands-coronavirus-success-despair-and-suicide?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU Edited June 29, 2020 by Xaos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Xaos said: 0.1% mortality rate... https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/16/874198026/the-cost-of-thailands-coronavirus-success-despair-and-suicide?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU What did you get that figure from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spiekerjozef Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 Yes, we gonna hear a lot of sad stories because of the lockdown. Hopefully the majority can somehow pick up their life again. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nick Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I am still totally amazed how much Thai ruk Thai! Especially the government, giving financial handouts left and right, to help their fellow men/ women, who got into deep doo doo, by no fault of their own... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bodga Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 Meantime, with the brains of a peanut between them my two staff have left with no notice at this time when many can't find work. The man was a good worker the women started off well but then started taking longer and longer breaks, Wife mentioned the 4.5 hour lunch breaks to her in a very gentle Thai way 3 days ago, the next day they left. Id just spent 4 months building them a brand new house and we'd finished it a week before they'd left. They arrived with not a penny between them 22 months ago, but as Ive seen before, no discussion just up and go, slightest offence and theyr'e off. The saddest part was their 9 year old girl who we always had a good laugh with, bought her a bicycle and a pet hamster, she wanted to take the hamster but the stupid easily offended man said she could not bring it. Our local Policeman told us they'd worked for a German before and the man drank too much and they were sacked from there. He drank here too hiding the bottles in a neighbours plot of land which I found, I had no problems with his drinking and told him so as it didn't affect his work, i did tell him to not throw his old bottles in the neighbours land though. Anyway, theyv'e gone and if they get another job who knows, I get tired of "babysitting" staff here, they all follow the same modus operandi, often start well then slowly get worse until they do almost nothing, then when mentioned off they go like immature children. Doesn't mattter what you pay them, how well you treat them they just don't care, short sighted to say the least. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, bodga said: Meantime, with the brains of a peanut between them my two staff have left with no notice at this time when many can't find work. The man was a good worker the women started off well but then started taking longer and longer breaks, Wife mentioned the 4.5 hour lunch breaks to her in a very gentle Thai way 3 days ago, the next day they left. Id just spent 4 months building them a brand new house and we'd finished it a week before they'd left. They arrived with not a penny between them 22 months ago, but as Ive seen before, no discussion just up and go, slightest offence and theyr'e off. The saddest part was their 9 year old girl who we always had a good laugh with, bought her a bicycle and a pet hamster, she wanted to take the hamster but the stupid easily offended man said she could not bring it. Our local Policeman told us they'd worked for a German before and the man drank too much and they were sacked from there. He drank here too hiding the bottles in a neighbours plot of land which I found, I had no problems with his drinking and told him so as it didn't affect his work, i did tell him to not throw his old bottles in the neighbours land though. Anyway, theyv'e gone and if they get another job who knows, I get tired of "babysitting" staff here, they all follow the same modus operandi, often start well then slowly get worse until they do almost nothing, then when mentioned off they go like immature children. Doesn't mattter what you pay them, how well you treat them they just don't care, short sighted to say the least. My wife had a similar experience when working as an office manager. 3 girls walked out because she told them 8am means starting work not starting to chat to each other and eat breakfast until 9am. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Xaos said: 0.1% mortality rate... OH and suicides or rise https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/06/16/874198026/the-cost-of-thailands-coronavirus-success-despair-and-suicide?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU?fbclid=IwAR2w9WgBU5B7fTMatI1LTOKo6tkta9u_QbJRJGDstbQCBOStwE7LHQ8mjiU Per capita it comes to 0.00008% mortality rate ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xaos Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matzzon said: What did you get that figure from? Los Angeles 0.18% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8244533/What-REAL-death-rate-COVID-19-Data-LA-suggests-kill-0-18-patients.html In,same article UK had 13% but they count only very sick ppl and no mild and asymptomatics. The death rate from COVID-19 is likely around 0.66%, if counting the mild or asymptomatic cases, according to a new study https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html New estimate by CDC reduces COVID-19 death rate to just 0.26% (IFR) from WHO’s 3.4% https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/data-cdc-estimates-covid-19-mortality-rate/275-fc43f37f-6764-45e3-b615-123459f0082b https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/data-cdc-estimates-covid-19-mortality-rate/275-fc43f37f-6764-45e3-b615-123459f0082b I know some still thinks it's 3.4% If u minus all fake and false positives add all mild and asymptomatic its 0.1% just like flu. " LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA Blood samples in Los Angeles suggest the coronavirus death rate could be around 0.18 per cent. A study of 846 people found roughly 4.1 per cent of the county’s 3.9million population has antibodies to the virus. It means that roughly 330,000 people have already caught the illness and built up some immunity to it. There were officially 600 COVID-19 deaths when the research was conducted on April 20. This suggests that around 0.18 per cent of patients fall victim to the disease. CHELSEA, BOSTON US researchers in Boston found almost a third (31.5 per cent) of residents in the suburb of Chelsea had antibodies for the virus. They collected blood samples from 200 random volunteers and said roughly 63 people had probably caught the illness. The city of Chelsea is home to around 40,160 people. If the results were to be extrapolated to the whole city, it suggests 12,650 may have actually been infected." Edited June 29, 2020 by Xaos 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deli Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 Useless lockdowns here and in so many other countries killing decades of built up economies and livelyhoods. Paranoia and the hunger for power rules. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 41 minutes ago, bodga said: Meantime, with the brains of a peanut between them my two staff have left with no notice at this time when many can't find work. The man was a good worker the women started off well but then started taking longer and longer breaks, Wife mentioned the 4.5 hour lunch breaks to her in a very gentle Thai way 3 days ago, the next day they left. Id just spent 4 months building them a brand new house and we'd finished it a week before they'd left. They arrived with not a penny between them 22 months ago, but as Ive seen before, no discussion just up and go, slightest offence and theyr'e off. The saddest part was their 9 year old girl who we always had a good laugh with, bought her a bicycle and a pet hamster, she wanted to take the hamster but the stupid easily offended man said she could not bring it. Our local Policeman told us they'd worked for a German before and the man drank too much and they were sacked from there. He drank here too hiding the bottles in a neighbours plot of land which I found, I had no problems with his drinking and told him so as it didn't affect his work, i did tell him to not throw his old bottles in the neighbours land though. Anyway, theyv'e gone and if they get another job who knows, I get tired of "babysitting" staff here, they all follow the same modus operandi, often start well then slowly get worse until they do almost nothing, then when mentioned off they go like immature children. Doesn't mattter what you pay them, how well you treat them they just don't care, short sighted to say the least. Same here with thai staff. U tell them off next day they quit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, webfact said: The media said that workers were being laid off by companies throughout Thailand. Which proves the knock-on affect of this whole debacle isn't over yet by a long way.... wait to see how many bars/clubs/entertainment venues go bust before tourists arrive back to save the day ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enoon Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: That is a bit of a sad thing to say. We cannot say if that is true. Perhaps the cure saved 10,000's of lives? Maybe more. The UK and USA did not take the cure until too late. The Swedes did not take the cure at all. We are all safer here because of it. I may not agree with almost all that this group in charge do, but I was happy to be 'locked down'. First case in Thailand 12th January, from Wuhan. Thailand continued to import, en masse, COVID carriers from Wuhan. What they called "screening", at Thai airports, did not spot asymptomatic carriers. On the 23rd January China stopped flights from Wuhan to Thailand. Thai Army COVID superspreading party held on 6th March in Lumphini Stadium. Not until 22nd March were "dangerous" countries (including China) required to have their nationals show medical certificates on arrival. Lockdown started 26th March Thailand. Lockdown Started 23rd March UK. All you have to thank for your "happiness" is the suppression of information and discussion about the real numbers of people infected/died. Easily done in a country with has had so much practice and previous success in that area: "Some critics of the government have been arrested for allegedly spreading false information about the coronavirus pandemic. COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand - Wikipedia Edited June 29, 2020 by Enoon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Xaos said: Los Angeles 0.18% https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8244533/What-REAL-death-rate-COVID-19-Data-LA-suggests-kill-0-18-patients.html In,same article UK had 13% but they count only very sick ppl and no mild and asymptomatics. The death rate from COVID-19 is likely around 0.66%, if counting the mild or asymptomatic cases, according to a new study https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html New estimate by CDC reduces COVID-19 death rate to just 0.26% (IFR) from WHO’s 3.4% https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/data-cdc-estimates-covid-19-mortality-rate/275-fc43f37f-6764-45e3-b615-123459f0082b https://www.wcnc.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/data-cdc-estimates-covid-19-mortality-rate/275-fc43f37f-6764-45e3-b615-123459f0082b I know some still thinks it's 3.4% If u minus all fake and false positives add all mild and asymptomatic its 0.1% just like flu. " LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA Blood samples in Los Angeles suggest the coronavirus death rate could be around 0.18 per cent. A study of 846 people found roughly 4.1 per cent of the county’s 3.9million population has antibodies to the virus. It means that roughly 330,000 people have already caught the illness and built up some immunity to it. There were officially 600 COVID-19 deaths when the research was conducted on April 20. This suggests that around 0.18 per cent of patients fall victim to the disease. CHELSEA, BOSTON US researchers in Boston found almost a third (31.5 per cent) of residents in the suburb of Chelsea had antibodies for the virus. They collected blood samples from 200 random volunteers and said roughly 63 people had probably caught the illness. The city of Chelsea is home to around 40,160 people. If the results were to be extrapolated to the whole city, it suggests 12,650 may have actually been infected." Two months is a long time in a pandemic. The Daily Mail article is dated 22nd April. Since then there has been rather more testing and rather more deaths. As at yesterday the US had tested 32.5m people. 2.6m postives (8%). 32.5 million is probably a better sample than the 846/200 cases quoted. Brazil figures are 3m tested, 1,3m positive (43%) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, webfact said: pictures of rawhuman emotion drive home devastating effect of pandemic on workers shouldn't it be pictures of raw human emotion drive home devastating effect of inappropriate over the top action of governments Does anybody know reliable numbers of total death rate during this year in comparison to previous years? I wouldn't be surprised if there is no difference Has anything been won by those government measures? (I mean except increase of unemployment, bancruptcies poverty and suicide rates) Edited June 29, 2020 by sweatalot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Some countries rule by the seat of their pants...others do much worse by removing the pants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, sweatalot said: shouldn't it be pictures of raw human emotion drive home devastating effect of inappropriate over the top action of governments Does anybody know reliable numbers of total death rate during this year in comparison to previous years? I wouldn't be surprised if there is no difference Has anything been won by those government measures? (I mean except increase of unemployment, bancruptcies poverty and suicide rates) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-53073046 "Thailand (1st March - 31st May) - The number of deaths in Thailand has been 2% higher than average, with about 2,400 more people dying than usual. Official Covid-19 deaths 57 Other excess deaths 2,316" The articles lists a number of countries with wildly varying figures. Only Norway and Japan are less than Thailand's 2% excess deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, bodga said: Meantime, with the brains of a peanut between them my two staff have left with no notice at this time when many can't find work. The man was a good worker the women started off well but then started taking longer and longer breaks, Wife mentioned the 4.5 hour lunch breaks to her in a very gentle Thai way 3 days ago, the next day they left. Id just spent 4 months building them a brand new house and we'd finished it a week before they'd left. They arrived with not a penny between them 22 months ago, but as Ive seen before, no discussion just up and go, slightest offence and theyr'e off. The saddest part was their 9 year old girl who we always had a good laugh with, bought her a bicycle and a pet hamster, she wanted to take the hamster but the stupid easily offended man said she could not bring it. Our local Policeman told us they'd worked for a German before and the man drank too much and they were sacked from there. He drank here too hiding the bottles in a neighbours plot of land which I found, I had no problems with his drinking and told him so as it didn't affect his work, i did tell him to not throw his old bottles in the neighbours land though. Anyway, theyv'e gone and if they get another job who knows, I get tired of "babysitting" staff here, they all follow the same modus operandi, often start well then slowly get worse until they do almost nothing, then when mentioned off they go like immature children. Doesn't mattter what you pay them, how well you treat them they just don't care, short sighted to say the least. General farm work was it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbrenn Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: I may not agree with almost all that this group in charge do, but I was happy to be 'locked down'. Lock yourself down then. That's your right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, rvaviator said: General farm work was it ? Kind of but really not a lot, more taking care of my large garden, keeping it tidy, blowing up leaves(petrol leaf blowers no brooms here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 3 hours ago, overherebc said: My wife had a similar experience when working as an office manager. 3 girls walked out because she told them 8am means starting work not starting to chat to each other and eat breakfast until 9am. Yes, incredible isn't it, like spoilt brats,my Wife said when she was young and the boss said jump, you said how high. Shes only 44 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinot Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 8 hours ago, RichardColeman said: Once again proving Thailand's cure is far worse than the actual disease. Are you out of your mind? Thailand's response has been perfect. No new Covid-19 infections in a month! There are 10,000 new cases per day in Florida alone and 5% are going to die! What would you rather have Thailand or Florida? The ignorance of that post is remarkable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Xaos said: Same here with thai staff. U tell them off next day they quit. Yes they seem to be easily offended and it is all about saving Face unfortunately. Happened with two we had employed for house keeping and such. GF asked each one to take care of certain chores daily. They were both lazy and could care less, spent time on there phones and screwing off. GF talked to them each separately and they both quit the next day. Easy as pie to do the jobs they were paid for, just looking for a free handout with doing as little work as possible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted June 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2020 59 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Yes they seem to be easily offended and it is all about saving Face unfortunately. Happened with two we had employed for house keeping and such. GF asked each one to take care of certain chores daily. They were both lazy and could care less, spent time on there phones and screwing off. GF talked to them each separately and they both quit the next day. Easy as pie to do the jobs they were paid for, just looking for a free handout with doing as little work as possible. Had three Thai maids before got the current one, from Myanmar. All three before were the same, did nothing and when confronted buggered off. The current one is a gem, very diligent and also has a functioning brain to figure out stuff by herself. Been with us for four years now, we pay well over average to keep her. Thainess is a flawed, rotten culture that requires a complete overhaul. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leavenopizzabehind Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Pinot said: Are you out of your mind? Thailand's response has been perfect. No new Covid-19 infections in a month! There are 10,000 new cases per day in Florida alone and 5% are going to die! What would you rather have Thailand or Florida? The ignorance of that post is remarkable. 0.1% of that 10k will die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, leavenopizzabehind said: 0.1% of that 10k will die but these 10k may contaminate other older people who will die... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said: Yes they seem to be easily offended and it is all about saving Face unfortunately. Happened with two we had employed for house keeping and such. GF asked each one to take care of certain chores daily. They were both lazy and could care less, spent time on there phones and screwing off. GF talked to them each separately and they both quit the next day. Easy as pie to do the jobs they were paid for, just looking for a free handout with doing as little work as possible. Yes, same here with many, in fact the jobs are not hard and I've done them all so I know exactly whats required and how long each takes. One of them made watering last all day yet I know I could do the lot in 2.5 hours. They have no money and never save, its easy to see why so many stay poor when here they have no bills at all unless they buy any food and even then they could grow there own. We have ample free fish too, but its just never enough for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 20 hours ago, overherebc said: My wife had a similar experience when working as an office manager. 3 girls walked out because she told them 8am means starting work not starting to chat to each other and eat breakfast until 9am. Our gardener left last month. She started off working very hard but after 18 months she pretty much refused to do anything except water the plants, when she showed up anyway. We treated her well and sometimes used to buy her small gifts like an electric fan or t-shirts for her niece. The final straw was when 2 of our dogs had a bit of a scrap and one of them ran off into the field to nurse it's pride/wounds. When my girlfriend asked her to help look for the injured dog the gardener stormed off saying "you care more about the dog than me". The gardener was completely uninjured in fact she was nowhere near the fight, simply jealous of the concern my girlfriend had for the injured dog. Haven't seen her since, the nutter ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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