webfact Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Indian techie arrested for credit card fraud in Chiang Mai By THE NATION An Indian national was arrested for fraud on Monday after being caught in Chiang Mai with several credit cards and a modified EDC [Electronic Data Capture] machine used to imprint data on counterfeit cards, police said. Officers from the Technology Crime Suppression Division nabbed Muhamad Budeen (last name withheld), aged 36, after raiding his room at a hotel in San Phi Suea, Meuang district. They said the suspect confessed to being a member of credit card-skimming gang in India who operated in Thailand, collecting 40-50 per cent of the profit from the scam. Police said he admitted to using fake credit cards a total of 59 times to purchase items at several stores in Chiang Mai on June 26-27. A police check showed that the suspect entered Thailand six months ago and that he possessed a degree in computer engineering. Police have launched an investigation into the gang to identify whether any other members are operating in Thailand. “People must be extra careful before using their cards in ATMs or EDC machines,” warned police. “Check the card slots thoroughly for any signs they have been tampered with, and use your hand to cover the keypad when entering your PIN, as these gangs may have installed a micro-camera to steal your PIN.” Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390473 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-06-29 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 In my opinion life in jail for this maggot parasite. Between forging credentials enabling them to pilot passenger airlines and flooding the world with overpriced restaurants the world would be a better place if they all stayed at home, where they could cheerfully pull scams on each other. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I thought all ATM machines had either a camera installed as a security device or CCTV covering the machine.. how do these people tamper with them and not be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, hotchilli said: I thought all ATM machines had either a camera installed as a security device or CCTV covering the machine.. how do these people tamper with them and not be seen. Vaseline swipe on the cam? Kinda like the spray paint on cams in movies...come in from the side??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: I thought all ATM machines had either a camera installed as a security device or CCTV covering the machine.. how do these people tamper with them and not be seen. Vids taken by camera aren't being monitored in real-time. They only view footage after a crime is detected. By then, they'll only have records of a guy obscured by a hoodie tampering with their machine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, ChakaKhan said: Vaseline swipe on the cam? Kinda like the spray paint on cams in movies...come in from the side??? Or, just put a hand or anything over the camera while doing the transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I just can't believe that people don't monitor their credit card activity on-line to see if someone has gained access to their account. This is just like the recent case of the Chiang Mai business owner who had nearly four million baht taken from her SCB account over several months by an employee. If people just checked their bank accounts and credit card activity daily or had their banks/credit cards send them an SMS when there is activity all these problems could be nipped in the bud. One big benefit of maintaining a credit card from a U.S. financial institution is that the cardholder isn't liable for fraudulent activity, unlike cards issued by Thai banks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Some years ago, after a debit card theft, and had a suspected culprit, the Bank Conveiniently told us that the ATM's he used, Never had working camera's. Therefore never able to prosecute the thieving Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 No wonder India is sending so many rich tourists if they are using other people's money 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 23 hours ago, webfact said: he possessed a degree in computer engineering Apparently from Dum Dum University........???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudHuman Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 14 hours ago, phantomfiddler said: In my opinion life in jail for this maggot parasite. Between forging credentials enabling them to pilot passenger airlines and flooding the world with overpriced restaurants the world would be a better place if they all stayed at home, where they could cheerfully pull scams on each other. Mister and you come from which country ... every country in this world have people like them and i am sure yours tooo . Sooo pls keep youropinium to your ppl only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 21 hours ago, scorecard said: Or, just put a hand or anything over the camera while doing the transaction. Def be easier with a wing man, the covid mask may help a well with a hoodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, ChakaKhan said: Def be easier with a wing man, the covid mask may help a well with a hoodie Why worry about hoodies or wing man, just cover the camera with your hand, or have a piece of paper big enough to cover the camera with sticky tape on it. Quickly stick the paper over the camera now robber has 2 hands to carry out his technique and no video evidence at all. All very easy, bottom line is that banks should have changed their whole technology and security systems so that these issues just don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, scorecard said: Or, just put a hand or anything over the camera while doing the transaction. One ATM not far from me is under a set of internal stairs and customers have to bend over to get to it. There's a CCTV camera installed right where customers bend to get to the machine. CCTV camera is mounted so that customers have to do body twists to get past it and they brush against the camera which now shakes because it's become loose. Very easy to cover this CCTV camera and to block the camera inside the ATM. In other words no security. Edited July 1, 2020 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, ProudHuman said: Mister and you come from which country ... every country in this world have people like them and i am sure yours tooo . Sooo pls keep youropinium to your ppl only He's talking about the scamming team, not people in general. It is also an Dharmic Indian trait that males are elevated by their peers if they become prosperous by whatever means, including fraudulent methods. In today's Indian society, as has been the case for centuries, caste status is still the dominant achievement driver. However, it is my understanding that Muhamad, if he professes to be a practising Muslim, has committed a sin against Allah, which in stricter Islamic societies (e.g. Taliban) would mean loss of a hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmficc Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Old Thai saying: : if you come across an Indian and a snake, kill the Indian first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonwilly Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 1 hour ago, hmficc said: Old Thai saying: : if you come across an Indian and a snake, kill the Indian first. Er Yes, I first heard that on my original trip to Thailand, 41 years ago. There are numerous Youtube videos on how folk can interfere with ATMs. john 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 9:27 PM, scorecard said: Why worry about hoodies or wing man, just cover the camera with your hand, or have a piece of paper big enough to cover the camera with sticky tape on it. Quickly stick the paper over the camera now robber has 2 hands to carry out his technique and no video evidence at all. All very easy, bottom line is that banks should have changed their whole technology and security systems so that these issues just don't exist. I think the thai police are putting our usernames into the database for when we try to re-enter LOS The burmese breathe easy as they have their criminals and evidence! Ge ready for the pointing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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