Another 6 groups of foreigners to enter Thailand in July

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10 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

No, but nor does it say whether the flight ban is lifted and that incoming flights can land.  It doesn't specifically refer to any type of entry, and there many people stranded across the border in Laos and other neighbouring countries, who meet the conditions referred to in the 6 groups (including my wife and son!).

 

Hopefully, things will be clarified further tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

Statement from the Bars and Pubs thread.
 

“The country's aviation regulator has banned international flights since April.

"There is no proposal to change the flight suspension and travellers can return with repatriation flights and special flights," he said.”

[Cadan]

How about people with retirement visas? Don’t the want these back to curb local economy  ? Some of them have houses, apartments etc.  it will be a very very slow process. Let’s move to 2021 quickly 

[dougiemac52]

16 hours ago, Berti said:

 

Yes, I think so.

But alternative quarantine which means a hotel.

Yea at your expense. So basically if you go for 2 weeks you cannot visit your family. Only thailand can offer in one hand and take away in the other

[saminoz]

Typical Thai government.

Make an announcement that causes more confusion than it clears up!

Frikkin useless.

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9 minutes ago, dougiemac52 said:

Yea at your expense. So basically if you go for 2 weeks you cannot visit your family. Only thailand can offer in one hand and take away in the other

Typical Thai business model.

Create a problem and ask for money to get it solved.

[Darksidedude]

 

On 29 June 63, Dr. Taweesil Wissanuayothin, spokesman for the Ministry of Education, issued a statement on measures to relax those who can enter the Kingdom. Which the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has additional proposals for 6 groups of foreigners to travel to Thailand 1. Spouse and children of people who have a work permit or have been granted permission to travel into the Kingdom 2. Non-Thai nationals residing in the Kingdom 3. Foreign spouses and legal children of Thai nationals 4. People who do not have Thai nationality who are in need of medical treatment in Thailand and followers (only some diseases such as plastic surgery) 5. Students, international students and parents 6. Non-Thai nationals who are allowed to enter the Kingdom under a Special Arrangement with the target country, such as government guests, investors, or businessmen. There are 4 countries in 1 jurisdiction which are Japan, South Korea, Singapore, China and Hong Kong, which are economically important and have good outbreak control similar to Thailand. Is ready and interested in making an agreement Which can enter into 2 systems which are 1.Normal Track is to enter Thailand for a long time Must have access to the State Quarantine or the hotel 14 days at your own expense. 2. Fast Track is for those who come to Thailand for short-term (less than 14 days), do not need State Quarantine for 14 days, but must have more strict conditions than Normal Track, such as double negative checking, installing applications Has a clear itinerary For government guests There are basic rules which are 1. Being a small group of no more than 10 people 2. is a short trip 3. There is a certificate of aseptic protection of Covid-19. At the country of origin and when traveling to Thailand (Double Negative) 4. The government agencies that host high-level guests Consider arranging Liaison Officer (LO) staff as follows 5. There are TBA officials and officers from the security department following the faculty. 6. Travel restrictions must be limited to the agreed date only. Prohibiting traveling to public places and prohibiting public transportation

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

More groups of foreigners to be allowed entry from tomorrow

By THE NATION

 

 

Additional groups of foreigners will be allowed to enter Thailand from tomorrow (July 1), the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) announced on Monday (June 29).

 

The announcement, which was signed by CAAT director-general Chula Sukmanop and takes effect on July 1, stipulates that eleven groups of people will be allowed to enter the country via flights:

 

1. Persons with Thai nationality.

 

2. Persons who were invited by the prime minister or authorities responsible for the emergency.

 

3. Foreign spouses, parents or children of persons with Thai nationality.

 

4. Foreigners with residency rights in Thailand.

 

5. Foreign spouses and children of work permit holders.

 

6. Transporters of necessary products, who must leave the country immediately after their work is done.

 

7. Drivers and staff of vehicles that have to carry out necessary or important missions in Thailand and have a clear schedule for leaving.

 

8. International students and their guardians.

 

9. Foreigners and their carers seeking medical treatment in Thailand (except for Covid-19).

 

10. Staff of embassies, consulates, international organisations or representatives of foreign governments who have to carry out their mission in Thailand as allowed by the Foreign Affairs Ministry, as well as their spouses, parents, children.

 

11. Foreigners who are allowed to enter Thailand as per special arrangements.

 

All visitors will be tested for Covid-19 and need to follow the regulations issued by the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration and the Department of Disease Control, including completing a mandatory quarantine period.

 

CAAT will also allow in state or military aircraft or emergency landings, technical landings without any passengers disembarking, humanitarian aid and medical or relief flights, repatriation flights and cargo aircraft.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390509

 

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[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

The special arrangement will initially allow entry to 200 foreigners per day. That number will increase when more alternative state quarantine (ASQ) rooms are made available. The special arrangement will allow entry to groups of no more than 10 people for a short period. Visitors will be tested for Covid-19 prior to travel and on arrival in Thailand, where they will be monitored constantly by health and security officials. They must submit their Thailand itinerary in advance and will only be allowed to travel by private car.

I guess that will allow all the overseas auto trade figures to attend the auto show in July !

[fred110]

14 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

But not Taiwan?   (very successful anti-covid performance)

Because Taiwan is disliked by China

[DrPhibes]

If you go to post #188 of this Thread you can see my recent interaction with the Thai Embassy in WA D.C.

 

 

[YetAnother]

32 minutes ago, webfact said:

Additional groups of foreigners will be allowed to enter Thailand from tomorrow (July 1)

prime accelerant for second wave of virus

Edited June 30, 2020 by YetAnother

[david555]

And keeping in mind the 200 a day is counting for the whole   group of 6 ,not for each group separate ….!

Probably depending of importance decided by the embassy staff....

a long waiting list could be the case depending of your importance for Thai gov. interest in you ….(?)

Edited June 30, 2020 by david555

[unheard]

A sign of opening up to the foreign airlines?????

[brewsterbudgen]

3 hours ago, CLS said:

Statement from the Bars and Pubs thread.
 

“The country's aviation regulator has banned international flights since April.

"There is no proposal to change the flight suspension and travellers can return with repatriation flights and special flights," he said.”

The CAAT don't make the rules, they follow them.  There is supposed to be a Cabinet meeting today and hopefully that will provide more (much needed) clarification.

[sungod]

4 minutes ago, unheard said:

A sign of opening up to the foreign airlines?????

Some foreign airlines have been flying, they have been coming in empty due to government regulations.

[Expat Tom]

Complete silliness. Why would anyone in their right mind welcome ANY Chinese back. The virus came from China along with the Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, SAARS, Bird Flu, Swine flu...should I go on?

 

Over 100 countries in the world  have condemned the CCP (China) for lying about the Wuhan Coronavirus and the leaders of Thailand accept the lies from the CCP about their control of said virus? Of course, Thailand knows more than over 100 combined countries. There have been over 3 million cases in China. The only reason that Thailand is allowing the Chinese back  is serious support within the corrupt government of Thailand for the country to become a vassal state of China. Lots of money must be changing hands somewhere. This is the result of what the country gets when it is led by a general who led a coup against the elected government, said that he had no interest in becoming the country's leader, promised a return civilian control within 6 months, moved to change the constitution to pack the government with unelected military officers, prevented open campaigning against him, banned opposition political parties and is STILL IN POWER YEARS AFTER LEADING THE COUP???? Democracy? That is a Western concept and not an Asian one.

 

Again, There must be big money changing hands somewhere. 

 

God save Thailand.    

[terryofcrete]

15 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

But not Taiwan?   (very successful anti-covid performance)

China would not approve it ! 

[Seeall]

17 hours ago, Berti said:

The daily confusion.

They only now expand alternative state quarantine. I heard hotel owners are desperate because nobody can tell them how to become a quarantine hotel.

 

They will receive the correct information when its needed..

[david555]

12 minutes ago, sungod said:

Some foreign airlines have been flying, they have been coming in empty due to government regulations.

Empty for passengers , but loaded with cargo ...

Flying out of Thailand with passengers at single  flight  ticket 

Edited June 30, 2020 by david555

[JCP108]

I'm very interested to see if people in the U.S. can get the silly fit to fly certificate. I'm guessing, no. So, if I go home, I don't expect to be able to come back for a long time. 

[hioctane]

13 minutes ago, Expat Tom said:

Complete silliness. Why would anyone in their right mind welcome ANY Chinese back. The virus came from China along with the Asian flu, Hong Kong flu, SAARS, Bird Flu, Swine flu...should I go on?

 

Over 100 countries in the world  have condemned the CCP (China) for lying about the Wuhan Coronavirus and the leaders of Thailand accept the lies from the CCP about their control of said virus? Of course, Thailand knows more than over 100 combined countries. There have been over 3 million cases in China. The only reason that Thailand is allowing the Chinese back  is serious support within the corrupt government of Thailand for the country to become a vassal state of China. Lots of money must be changing hands somewhere. This is the result of what the country gets when it is led by a general who led a coup against the elected government, said that he had no interest in becoming the country's leader, promised a return civilian control within 6 months, moved to change the constitution to pack the government with unelected military officers, prevented open campaigning against him, banned opposition political parties and is STILL IN POWER YEARS AFTER LEADING THE COUP???? Democracy? That is a Western concept and not an Asian one.

 

Again, There must be big money changing hands somewhere. 

 

God save Thailand.    

Stop with the silly racist <deleted>! ????

[unheard]

14 minutes ago, sungod said:

Some foreign airlines have been flying, they have been coming in empty due to government regulations.

I meant to the scheduled flights with passengers.

[unheard]

8 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

I'm very interested to see if people in the U.S. can get the silly fit to fly certificate. I'm guessing, no.

Why not and why silly?

What's so silly about the family doctor issuing a fit to fly statement?

[Enzian]

"God save Thailand."

God protects, saves if you will, drunks and children, and He has a special subcategory of these for Thailand which will come through.

[iamariva1957]

15 hours ago, tubby johnson said:

But not Taiwan?   (very successful anti-covid performance)

Because China does not like Taiwan... so an order  ... was communicated?

[khunjeff]

21 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

The CAAT don't make the rules, they follow them.  There is supposed to be a Cabinet meeting today and hopefully that will provide more (much needed) clarification.

This is part of the confusion. They keep making announcements to the effect that the CAAT has banned certain passengers, or the AOT requires people to fill out health declarations, which makes it seem that there are a bunch of little fiefdoms making their own decisions - when what is actually meant (apparently...) is that the government has made the decision, and the individual agency or office is merely in charge of implementing it.

 

This lack of clarity is also seen when they keep saying "foreigners residing in Thailand" when they actually mean "foreigners with permanent residency"; "ban on international flights" when they actually mean "ban on incoming International passengers"; and "lockdown" when they actually mean "closing of certain businesses". The result is a lot of confusion on the part of people trying to understand what is actually going on.

[GAZZPA]

17 hours ago, anterian said:

to become a quarantine hotel you provide the appropriate size envelope to the immigration police, surely any Thai would know this. 

Seems to be the solution to anything in Thailand, a miracle envelope you might call it. if you want to be fully qualified from a Thai university, easy peasy. Fancy murdering your enemy? no problem. You want top job in the Police, it's yours. Build a house on restricted land, crack on... How about get pis**d and off your t*ts, drive your Ferrari like a maniac, plough down a copper and drag the guys corpse down the road and enjoy an extended holiday whilst it blows over.. that too is completely possible with an envelope of appropriate size. ????

[unheard]

Still no regularly scheduled flights then (according to the official statement on facebook).

What it states is that the the airlines will now be allowed to organize and process the qualified passengers themselves under a special permission obtained from the Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (if granted).

Edited June 30, 2020 by unheard

[spidermike007]

I am in group 3. My Thai wife and I were planning a trip back to Zombieland (the US) in mid September, returning here early November. Business and family stuff. If we were able to get letters showing we were negative for Covid, prior to departure, would we be subject to quarantine? Since my wife will be traveling with me, not sure how that effects the foreign husband returning to the Thai wife qualification. 

 

How do you qualify? I heard you have to request this at the Thai consulate in the US? Is it a lotto system, of some sort? 200 a day seems like a very low number. That is half a plane load of people. 

[Kalorymetr]

Is residency rights a PR, or is maybe a condo lease enough? ????