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48 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

I wonder why you posted these figures.

Yes, 5 new - imported - cases > Regarding today’s COVID-19 situation in Thailand, five new COVID-19 cases were confirmed. Four confirmed cases were those who returned from the United Arab Emirates and the other confirmed case returned from Egypt and they were all under state quarantine

Source: https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/news/news_no165_090763.pdf

So NO reported domestic cases in 45 consecutive days...

 

Cool, so those 5 folks didn't come in contact with any airline personnel and walked to the quarantine site without spreading the virus anywhere....nicely done, get yourself another dingdong!

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46 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

Cool, so those 5 folks didn't come in contact with any airline personnel and walked to the quarantine site without spreading the virus anywhere....nicely done, get yourself another dingdong!

Tested positive (and then quarantained) doesn't necessarily mean that you are a 'spreader'.

But I should refrain from responding to your pathetic nonsense...

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Weren't they wearing masks in Italy, France, Spain and Belgium?  Didn't seem to do them much good.

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14 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Tested positive (and then quarantained) doesn't necessarily mean that you are a 'spreader'.

The point is that it doesn’t necessarily mean you are not a spreader.

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4 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

But I should refrain from responding to your pathetic nonsense...

You really should, but I betcha can't.

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Does it really matter if the cases from the Egyptian soldier and the 8 year old Thai are called “local”?  Clearly there are infected people out and about.  

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On 7/10/2020 at 1:55 PM, dingdongrb said:

so those 5 folks didn't come in contact with any airline personnel and walked to the quarantine site without spreading the virus anywhere..

Yeah, that does beg the question, since virus checks aren't instantaneous -- in fact, they take quite awhile. So, did these folks sit in an isolation ward at the airport awaiting their results? Don't think so -- believed they were transported to their quarantine hotel via normal circumstances, not in hazmat vehicles. Thus, yeah, a lot of wheezing and sneezing could prove deadly.

So, until we get instantaneous results tests for corvid-19 (with acceptable false negatives), passengers allowed into Thailand will need to be transported to their quarantine hotel in isolation.

 

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Tested positive (and then quarantained) doesn't necessarily mean that you are a 'spreader'.

Yeah, if individual in question was isolated prior to testing positive, then quarantined. Don't believe this was the situation... Sounds like the opportunity to sneeze and wheeze amongst the public prevailed itself....

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On 7/10/2020 at 1:55 PM, dingdongrb said:

Cool, so those 5 folks didn't come in contact with any airline personnel and walked to the quarantine site without spreading the virus anywhere....nicely done, get yourself another dingdong!

 

1 hour ago, Bill97 said:

Does it really matter if the cases from the Egyptian soldier and the 8 year old Thai are called “local”?  Clearly there are infected people out and about.  

Seems that the Egyptian and the 8 year old Thai, announced yesterday and in today's paper were not kept in quarantine sites, they roamed free.  Spreading the virus to several hundred???

 

How many other free roamers have there been?

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There has been confused messaging coming from Govt sources in US since the beginning and that is big part of the problem. They wanted masks saved for medical personnel and you couldn't buy them anyway.    US needs to to start another 2 month Thai style harsh lockdown and ban all domestic and intl travel or this will never end.

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23 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

There has been confused messaging coming from Govt sources in US since the beginning and that is big part of the problem. They wanted masks saved for medical personnel and you couldn't buy them anyway.    US needs to to start another 2 month Thai style harsh lockdown and ban all domestic and intl travel or this will never end.

The motivation for lock-downs was to 'flatten the curve' and avoid the health-system being swamped and not being able to cope with people needing treatment.  The reality was that except for a couple of hard-hit places, the hospitals were never swamped.

The lock-down and other measures were only introduced to 'buy time'.  The simple fact is that eventually everybody will be exposed to covid-19 (you can't hide forever, or wait till the Magic Vaccine will be available for everybody).

Sounds scary but it isn't.  Majority of those that got it, didn't even notice that they were infected or only displayed mild symptoms.  It's the elderly and those with challenged immune systems because of other illnesses or unhealthy lifestyle, that are at risk.  Sure, these need to be protected, but not by imposing across-the-board measures on everybody.

The media did an excellent scare-mongering job even going so far as to block and censure imminent scientists going against the stream and questioning or downright demonstrating the ineffectiveness of some of these measures (including the current Testing-testing-testing paradigm).

I won't go so far as to say that it was a storm in a tea-cup, because that's not correct.  But blind irrational fear is not a good adviser.

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Just hide forever, that should work. 

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The fact is that asymptomatic transmission is in the 0-2.3% range. So the odds of meeting an asymptomatic carrier, who happens to sneeze in your direction are virtually zero. Therefore masks make no sense at all. Totally pointless.

 

Unless a person is sick, then they should wear one.

 

For the healthy the benefit is zero.

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15 minutes ago, Logosone said:

For the healthy the benefit is zero

Nobody knows who is healthy!!!

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