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Unsuccessful trip to CW today for a NON O

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Hi Guys, Just wanted to share my experience today and get some advise.

 

I arrived in Thailand on 18th Dec 2019, had a 30 day tourist extension followed by a 60 day spouse extension which lasted til 15th April 2020. My current stay is now extended under the granted time of 31st July. As this unexpected virus had affected all of us, my situation was that I wasn't able to travel for work as I had previously been doing. Knowing this, and after getting some info here, I had made plans to apply for a spouse O visa as soon as I could. Last week I fulfilled the required 400k in the bank for 2 months and today I went down to CW with all the documents needed to apply for the spouse O visa. Upon asking the officers, we were told that I could not apply for the visa today as the date for me to apply was at least 2 weeks prior to the 15th April extension given months ago. I was under the impression that I could apply within this grace period; my mistake...

 

My wife then asked what happens if I have to leave the country on the 31st of July and not allowed back in? We have 2 kids and the only home I own (wifes obviously) is here. The officer first responded it was 'my fault' and then a little more sympathetic 'don't worry as the government will do something'. I do not know what this means, 'the government will do something..' Of course you can only ask the officer so many times before the mood changes so we didn't push it..

 

Given my situation (and I'm sure many more out there), are there other options I overlooked?

 

Also, I just saw today's CCSA briefing and he mentioned spouses of Thai nationals being allowed to enter without being specific. Where can I find more info on this?

 

thanks for reading...

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They are correct about needing 15 days remaining on a standard permit to stay form a visa exempt or tourist visa entry or a extension of them. Immigration does not consider the "automatic extension" under the amnesty as a valid permit to stay.

Also you could of applied for the 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) as soon as you had the 400k baht in the bank. It only has to be in the bank on the day you apply. The 2 months requirement is only needed when applying for a one year extension.

The amnesty may be extended beyond July 31st if the border crossings are not open. 

If not you may be able to apply for a special 30 day extension with a letter from your embassy.

Your best option now is to wait it out and then go to a nearby embassy or consulate to a apply for a single entry non-o visa.

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Plse UbonJoe, this guy runs out of an extension based on spouse, and he can now apply for a "new" Non Immigrant O VISA, within the borders of Thailand? I thought that  it was ONLY possible in case of a conversion of some sort.. So how is this possible.... I thought it was impossible for people just to go down to immigration  and buy themselfs a Non O-VISA!!!

 

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Just now, ubonjoe said:

Read the OP again. He entered on a tourist visa and then applied for a 60 day extension to visit his wife.

He never had a non-o visa.

UB I never said that????????? THIS is my question... How can a guy that is/was on an extension simply go to immigration inside Thailand and buy himself a Non Imm O-VISA,, not even go the "conversaion-road"?????????

 

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Renewed my Type O 12 month visa last week in Chiang Mai. I always use a Visa Agent, as best in town, I was with the immigration official for 5 mins max.

I was 42 days early as I like to get my admin out of the way as soon as possible.

 

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

 

Also you could of applied for the 90 day non immigrant visa (category O) as soon as you had the 400k baht in the bank. It only has to be in the bank on the day you apply. The 2 months requirement is only needed when applying for a one year extension.

This was a mistake on my part, I thought I needed 2 months in the bank for the spouse 'O' visa application, and that the initial 90 days given is part of that process. Kicking myself now!!

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That is what people incorrectly call a conversion.

Read this. http://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/06-edit_NON-O.pdf

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  • If I have it correct, this is the one I should have applied for. So, in the event I have to leave Thailand. Upon my return I shall apply for this first and later apply for the 1 ear 'O' visa correct?

"Renewed my Type O 12 month visa last week in Chiang Mai. I always use a Visa Agent, as best in town, I was with the immigration official for 5 mins max.

I was 42 days early as I like to get my admin out of the way as soon as possible."

 

I have in the past done my Spouse 'O' visa extensions many times without an agent. Not an issue if you have the right documents.

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1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

The application can be done with a 30 day extension of a tourist visa entry and or a 60 day extension to visit a Thai wife. It does not have to be the original 60 day entry from one.

He would do a application for a change of visa status using a TM86 form to get a 90 day non-o visa entry. Nobody said otherwise. That is what people incorrectly call a conversion.

Read this. http://bangkokimmigration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/06-edit_NON-O.pdf

OK I understand that Joe, but the fact is/was that the OP clearly says that he was going to the immigration and to buy a non immigrant O, nothing more.... That made me confused. But thanks again for clearing that up. The guy is doing a conversion then, NOT just buying a non immigrant O....

 

glegolo

ps. thanks for all your help Joe..

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9 hours ago, bkkexplorer said:

I was under the impression that I could apply within this grace period; my mistake...

You can, they just give you troubles so that you decide to use an agent and they get paid.

You can decide between using an agent, using another immigration office, or trying to talk with somebody higher up in your immigration office.

 

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34 minutes ago, glegolo said:

OK I understand that Joe, but the fact is/was that the OP clearly says that he was going to the immigration and to buy a non immigrant O, nothing more.... That made me confused.

Where does the OP state he was buying a Non O?

 

9 hours ago, bkkexplorer said:

I had made plans to apply for a spouse O visa as soon as I could. Last week I fulfilled the required 400k in the bank for 2 months and today I went down to CW with all the documents needed to apply for the spouse O visa.

You confused yourself by not reading correctly.

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1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

Where does the OP state he was buying a Non O?

 

You confused yourself by not reading correctly.

Where?? In the headline of this thread for a starter he is saying; "Unsuccessful trip to CW today for a NON O" 

and later on into his text he is saying he is going there to apply for a Non O spouse VISA.... Yes I find it hard to read correctly probably, when it comes to read inbetween the lines.....

 

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