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16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

This was what Dr. Fauci said about drop in covid 19 mortality rates in case you missed it.

 

An important point to keep in mind is that it takes time before people infected with the coronavirus get sick enough to die. “Deaths always lag considerably behind cases,” Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease specialist, said at a congressional hearing last week. A month ago, there were fewer COVID-19 cases per day, so death rates now could be reflecting those numbers. Some experts expect death rates will rise over the next month to reflect the current surge in cases, 

On the opposite of this,  infectious diseases specialist Prof Matteo Bassetti says Covid-19 has been losing its virulence,  " Coronavirus has downgraded from a "tiger to a wild cat" and could die out on its own without a vaccine, an infectious diseases specialist has claimed.

Prof Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at the Policlinico San Martino hospital in Italy, told The Telegraph that Covid-19 has been losing its virulence in the last month and patients who would have previously died are now recovering."

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/20/coronavirus-has-downgraded-tiger-wild-cat-could-die-without/

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1 hour ago, johnpetersen said:

And how is identifying a falsehood denying a politician his say?

Replacing falsehood A with falsehood B is not really better.

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7 hours ago, webfact said:

Unless Americans wear masks and recommit to social distancing, the daily increase in new cases nationwide, currently around 40,000, could reach 100,000, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told a U.S. Senate committee.

Good, herd immunity will get reached faster, not slowed down artificially again.

 

Maybe Fauci should look a little to other continents, Europe, Asia, cases down, deaths down, whatever the strategy was. He could learn something.


And then teach a little about working on your health, how being obese, being fat, living on junk food, makes your body much more vulnerable to this virus. Everywhere else the deaths are almost only in the age group of 65 and older, only in the US its already around 45, and probably even younger.

 

Is the virus targeting Americans, or are Americans more easy victims, and if so, why? Fix that.

 

But no, it’s all about the election now, and money, scaremongering is the game.

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Now he wants Americans to wear masks. Yet I distinctly remember them saying don't wear masks it's safe to ride the packed to the gills NY subway and trains to NJ without masks. Go to hell  Fauci - all this clown is trying to do now is cover his ass. They have all been nothing more then mealy mouth worms who give nothing concrete . It's up to the herd to protect itself old style now - build up immunity and get strong.

 

No economy can survive a prolonged lock-down, the people are now confused. They are confused because the medical leadership of the USA - and for that matter - most of Europe - and the USA got conflicting advice from the medical professionals on what do do - they also failed to prepare - failed to sound alarms - failed in every way. The President, politicians - etc - all turned to these clowns and they simply spit garbage day after day. Time for them to simply step aside and shut their mouths. They are no longer relevant.

 

I am sure that in every closed door meeting him and that other woman whatever her name was left everyone at the table confused with their double sideways incomprehensible medical CYA speeches! Get lost!

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1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

Now he wants Americans to wear masks. Yet I distinctly remember them saying don't wear masks it's safe to ride the packed to the gills NY subway and trains to NJ without masks. Go to hell  Fauci - all this clown is trying to do now is cover his ass. They have all been nothing more then mealy mouth worms who give nothing concrete . It's up to the herd to protect itself old style now - build up immunity and get strong.

 

No economy can survive a prolonged lock-down, the people are now confused. They are confused because the medical leadership of the USA - and for that matter - most of Europe - and the USA got conflicting advice from the medical professionals on what do do - they also failed to prepare - failed to sound alarms - failed in every way. The President, politicians - etc - all turned to these clowns and they simply spit garbage day after day. Time for them to simply step aside and shut their mouths. They are no longer relevant.

 

I am sure that in every closed door meeting him and that other woman whatever her name was left everyone at the table confused with their double sideways incomprehensible medical CYA speeches! Get lost!

and concretely: do you wear a mask? 

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1 hour ago, Damual Travesty said:

Now he wants Americans to wear masks. Yet I distinctly remember them saying don't wear masks it's safe to ride the packed to the gills NY subway and trains to NJ without masks. Go to hell  Fauci - all this clown is trying to do now is cover his ass. They have all been nothing more then mealy mouth worms who give nothing concrete . It's up to the herd to protect itself old style now - build up immunity and get strong.

 

No economy can survive a prolonged lock-down, the people are now confused. They are confused because the medical leadership of the USA - and for that matter - most of Europe - and the USA got conflicting advice from the medical professionals on what do do - they also failed to prepare - failed to sound alarms - failed in every way. The President, politicians - etc - all turned to these clowns and they simply spit garbage day after day. Time for them to simply step aside and shut their mouths. They are no longer relevant.

 

I am sure that in every closed door meeting him and that other woman whatever her name was left everyone at the table confused with their double sideways incomprehensible medical CYA speeches! Get lost!

Seem a convenient topic to get at Dr. Fauci from the Trumpers if taken out of context. Fauci was concerned at that time when personal protective equipment like masks including the N95 and surgical masks were in short supply and needed by the front line workers and emergency personnel and thus made that statement that masks not recommended to the general public as it was needed by the first responders. Around that time in April, the National Strategic Stockpile was depleted thanks to Trump.

 

The medical leadership was the best thing that was and is still happening when the nation leadership was and is still spouting non science nonsense and making false assumptions. The economic meltdown is being prolonged because of poor leader like Trump who surrendered his responsibilities to state governors to make decision rather than a federal policies. Every states were doing their own version of re-opening with some following CDC guidelines and some totally ignore. 

 

 


 

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9 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

It doesn't look like the protests have contributed to the spike, most of the protesters wore masks. Same in the UK, no spikes where the protests were.

so you have not heard about Leicester?

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3 hours ago, steelepulse said:

On the opposite of this,  infectious diseases specialist Prof Matteo Bassetti says Covid-19 has been losing its virulence,  " Coronavirus has downgraded from a "tiger to a wild cat" and could die out on its own without a vaccine, an infectious diseases specialist has claimed.

Prof Matteo Bassetti, head of the infectious diseases clinic at the Policlinico San Martino hospital in Italy, told The Telegraph that Covid-19 has been losing its virulence in the last month and patients who would have previously died are now recovering."

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/20/coronavirus-has-downgraded-tiger-wild-cat-could-die-without/

This sounds like wishful thinking to me.  It's true that some pathogens evolve toward reduced lethality over time.  It's thought, for example, that measles and mumps originally appeared as lethal diseases as some point in the past, but have evolved to mild childhood diseases.  But that evolution, if it occurred, presumably took hundreds of years.  The six or eight months since Covid-19 appeared seems far to short for it to evolve toward less lethality, especially considering the substantial number of asymptomatic carriers (which would mitigate the need to become less lethal.)

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3 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

Now he wants Americans to wear masks. Yet I distinctly remember them saying don't wear masks it's safe to ride the packed to the gills NY subway and trains to NJ without masks. Go to hell  Fauci - all this clown is trying to do now is cover his ass. They have all been nothing more then mealy mouth worms who give nothing concrete . It's up to the herd to protect itself old style now - build up immunity and get strong.

 

No economy can survive a prolonged lock-down, the people are now confused. They are confused because the medical leadership of the USA - and for that matter - most of Europe - and the USA got conflicting advice from the medical professionals on what do do - they also failed to prepare - failed to sound alarms - failed in every way. The President, politicians - etc - all turned to these clowns and they simply spit garbage day after day. Time for them to simply step aside and shut their mouths. They are no longer relevant.

 

I am sure that in every closed door meeting him and that other woman whatever her name was left everyone at the table confused with their double sideways incomprehensible medical CYA speeches! Get lost!

As Coronavirus Cases Spike, Many GOP Lawmakers Back Masks and Tests

The new emphasis comes as the pandemic shifts to southern and western states

Many congressional Republicans are throwing their support behind the use of masks and robust testing as coronavirus cases spike in some GOP-led states, taking a more urgent stance on the matter than President Trump...

Faced with rising infections and hospitalizations, many GOP lawmakers representing a swath of southern and western states are increasingly urging their constituents to wear masks, socially distance and get tested.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-coronavirus-cases-spike-many-gop-lawmakers-back-masks-and-tests-11593270000

 

As the pandemic sweeps red states, Republicans belatedly get behind mask-wearing.

"On Monday afternoon, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell opened the week’s session by imploring “each family, each small business, each employer, and all levels of government to apply common sense” to combat the spread of the coronavirus, which has reasserted itself at record levels of cases over the past week. Then he got more specific.

“To name just one example,” he said, “We must have no stigma, none, about wearing masks when we leave our homes and come near other people."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/republicans-acknowledge-reality-coronavirus-masks.html

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2 hours ago, Dap said:

This "lying hack" with "0 credibility" has been the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 (36 Years) and advisor to the previous five presidents of the U.S. and now a leading member of the Trump Administration's White House Coronavirus Task Force. And your credentials are? Or were you referring to the sitting president?

Fauci is also one of the world's leading scientists in the field of immunology.

 

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