snoop1130 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 New swine flu not an immediate threat, says virologist By The Nation Though the new swine flu, G4 EA H1N1, has the potential of transmitting to humans and turning into a new pandemic, Dr Yong Poovorawan, an expert virologist at Chulalongkorn University, said it is not an immediate problem and there is no reason to panic yet. The G4 EA H1N1 virus, a mutation of the H1N1 virus which first hit the world in 2009, was recently found in the Chinese swine industry. After 2009, the swine flu virus combined with Eurasian avian-like influenza virus and was found to infect pigs’ guts. This was identified as the G1 type of virus, which has now mutated to G4, the doctor said. Since the latest version of the virus is new, people may have little or no immunity to it. According to the BBC, scientists have written in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) journal that measures to control the virus and close monitoring of swine industry workers should be swiftly implemented. Studies have also shown that the virus can grow and multiply in the cells that line human airways. The virologist said the virus still hasn’t leapt to humans and though there are no vaccines for it yet, the research industry is monitoring it. “The news broke when Chinese officials offered information to researchers who published their work in the PNAS journal. This a long-standing, in-depth study. I wish Thailand could also conduct studies like this, but it would require a lot of money,” Dr Yong said. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390612 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-07-01 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Maybe keep in China this time 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post doctormann Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Why do i get a sense of deja vu? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 2 hours ago, snoop1130 said: recently found in the Chinese swine industry. surprise surprise 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP108 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 hour ago, smedly said: Maybe keep in China this time Not going to happen. Whatever the details moving foward (including new outbreaks), the opening up plan is going to include China. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Yesterday i read some where that in places 10%of the pig farmers had it already but that it not yet past from human to human. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, jvs said: Yesterday i read some where that in places 10%of the pig farmers had it already but that it not yet past from human to human. Yep: According to blood tests, which showed antibodies created by exposure to the virus, 10.4% of swine workers had already been infected. The tests showed that as many as 4.4% of the general population also appeared to have been exposed. The virus has therefore already passed from animals to humans but there is no evidence yet that it can be passed from human to human, the scientists' main worry. https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/new-swine-flu-found-china-has-pandemic-potential 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Same as COVID - no evidence of human to human transmission. I think their required evidence for human to human transmission is when a full city becomes infected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, ukrules said: Same as COVID - no evidence of human to human transmission. I think their required evidence for human to human transmission is when a full city becomes infected. That was my thoughts also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Why was this virus reported so eagerly, when Corona-SARS-2 was not? Don't tell me "The Chinese learned their lesson with Corona-SARS-2". They learned that lesson with SARS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 A derogatory troll post has been removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, timendres said: Why was this virus reported so eagerly, when Corona-SARS-2 was not? Don't tell me "The Chinese learned their lesson with Corona-SARS-2". They learned that lesson with SARS. What is Corona-SARS-2 ??? SARS-CoV - 2003 outbreak in Asia: >8000 cases / 774 Deaths worldwide MERS-CoV - 2012 outbreak in the Middle East: ±2494cases / 858 Deaths worldwide Both were big news and well reported, although there was not the same mass hysteria we have encountered with SARS-CoV-2, perhaps because the numbers for SARS-CoV-2 have been far far greater. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shdmn Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 (edited) I'm sure certain gov'ts can take comfort in knowing they have another potential candidate to use to control people when the current trendy virus runs out of steam. Edited July 1, 2020 by shdmn 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 You again! Gee, thanks China. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: What is Corona-SARS-2 ??? SARS-CoV - 2003 outbreak in Asia: >8000 cases / 774 Deaths worldwide MERS-CoV - 2012 outbreak in the Middle East: ±2494cases / 858 Deaths worldwide Both were big news and well reported, although there was not the same mass hysteria we have encountered with SARS-CoV-2, perhaps because the numbers for SARS-CoV-2 have been far far greater. Thank you for correcting my labeling of the virus. I should have just said the CCP Virus. But my question still remains. I find it very revealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted July 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2020 Ah China! The country that keeps on giving....... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffggi Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Though the new swine flu, G4 EA H1N1, has the potential of transmitting to humans and turning into a new pandemic, Dr Yong Poovorawan, an expert virologist at Chulalongkorn University, said it is not an immediate problem and there is no reason to panic yet. They said the same thing about the WUHU virus, it makes one wonder what the Chinese feed their animals also the people ..........................LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Darkside Gray Posted July 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2020 Hope they let us know when it will be like the release date! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 19 hours ago, snoop1130 said: New swine flu not an immediate threat, says virologist No Virus is an Immediate threat until People/Animals start Dying in Big Numbers .Then they take Action which is too late and than they Panic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Brace for impact. The second the border opens to the Chinese hordes again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOAX Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Virus outbreaks are very common and happens every year, all over the world, but some more serious ones have recently occured, and here they are: 1.) An African Swine flu outbreak killing hundreds of millions of pigs all over China, leaving China in shortage of pork, starting at least in August 2018 and still going... CCP kept it secret, and still does, despite it being well known since February 2019, when it spread to Vietnam and later in April to Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar. Thailand remains on "Red Alert" for 24 provinces, but has no confirmed cases as of yet. No human transmission but has almost 100% mortality rate in pigs and is now listed as a threat to humans due to the potential of creating a shortage in food supply around the world. African swine flu outbreak has since spread around Asia and Europe. 2.) The New Coronavirus (CCP virus). China kept it secret, and still does. 3.) A new Swine flu outbreak was reported about shortly after the CCP virus outbreak, early February, in Northern China. Unclear if that is the same as the one we're now talking about, but it is not the same as the first one (there are potentially 3 different Swine flu ongoing outbreaks). Kept it secret and still does. 4.) Nipahvirus, by far the most serious outbreak, has begun spreading again in India and Bangladesh the last few years and has between 70-100% mortality rate and only 3% of no permanent damage to brain and nervesystem. Has never been kept secret and has therefore also been contained within small regions of Malaysia, India and Bangladesh under well control since the first outbreak in 1999. Bats are carriers of the Nipahvirus and infects humans through fruits, food and pigs, as well as between humans. Bats infected with the virus has been discovered in Thailand and are therefore a big threat to Thailand, but no human cases as of yet. 5.) A Bird flu outbreak in Southern China in chicken. Millions of chickens has being killed. Thailand (among other countries) has stopped importation of chicken and animal food from China. China also kept this outbreak a secret and still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Not a threat until China wants it to be a threat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy John Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I often comment to visitors that Thai food standards in the market...and often in the home are 1930s Australia level. I am guessing in China we could safely say 1830. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 21 hours ago, timendres said: On 7/1/2020 at 3:44 PM, richard_smith237 said: What is Corona-SARS-2 ??? SARS-CoV - 2003 outbreak in Asia: >8000 cases / 774 Deaths worldwide MERS-CoV - 2012 outbreak in the Middle East: ±2494cases / 858 Deaths worldwide Both were big news and well reported, although there was not the same mass hysteria we have encountered with SARS-CoV-2, perhaps because the numbers for SARS-CoV-2 have been far far greater. Thank you for correcting my labeling of the virus. I should have just said the CCP Virus. But my question still remains. I find it very revealing. I’m not sure what your point is.... I’m guessing something about ‘China’ being the reason this was so heavily reported, but SARS-CoV outbreak in 2003 also started in China, the world also knew about that outbreak back then. I think this attracted so much attention due to what appeared to be very high transmission rate and the modelled potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 hours ago, Darkside Gray said: Hope they let us know when it will be like the release date! I'll send you a link to my Swine Flu Unboxing and Review video on YouTube in due course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Nothing to worry about here unless you are a pig, African Swine fever has been out of control in China the past two years, so pig farmers watch your piggies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggley Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Quick close down the country again just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G950 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 80 percent of the new human flu strains in the last 100 years have originated in China. A densely packed population living very closely to animals, usually in markets, is an ideal breeding ground for viruses to jump to humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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