Fearing an election loss, Trump allies push him to be less polarizing

[OZinPattaya]

Trump didn't win in 2016 because he listened to the same image consultants and speech writers who filtered every word that spouted from the moribund lips of Hilary Clinton. The same people behind the doomed bids from the wonderfully successful presidential campaigns from McCain and Sanders, who listened to the same advisors and lost miserably. So being politic and careerist is no guarantee of success. I'd say it's a better option when faced with a opposition that wants to endow illegal immigrants with the right to vote. Not to mention the convicted felons. And any other breathing or non-breathing former human.

 

If Trump is going to lose in 2020, he should go out with a bang. The very notion that the answer to hysterical gender and race baiting, Marxist delusion, is that Trump needs to pull back a little in his rhetoric, is pretty damn amusing. Trump could descend from the very heavens on angel wings, with a halo surrounding his head, and there would still be a shocking number of people who think he's worse than Hitler.

 

There is no appeasing a collectivist mob mentality that only understands post-modernist power-dynamics.

Edited July 2, 2020 by OZinPattaya

[metisdead]

A parody troll post and other troll posts have been removed.

 

[Stargeezr]

The Trump supporters will spout of all the GREAT stuff that Trump has done.

  Well he sure has not done a lot to tell the Americans to be wary of the 

Covid virus and socially distance and wear masks, look at his last rally

and all the non mask wearers.  How about the spikes in the covid numbers?

  I hope that Trump actually get the virus, so at least his tweets will be'

more limited, and seeing him in a hospital bed will not get a lot of voters

except for the dead head crew who would vote for him alive or dead.

Good Lucl in Novermber America, I hope all the Black People will actually

vote this time, as it would change the tide for the country.

Geezer

[thaibeachlovers]

23 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

What exactly is Ivanka's role who is listed in the  'A' team do in the White House. "A" team gets the highest pay among all staffs. Seen any of her policies? 

and how many interviews does she do with the media? You do realise I'm talking about the media when I say they hate it, don't you?

[Chomper Higgot]

It is now being reported that Mitch McConnell has drawn a line in the sand and that Trump has until Labor Day to turn his abysmal polling around or face withdrawal of GOP support.

 

And as if to make matters worse for Trump, there is talk of canceling his next ‘Rally’ so as to avoid a repeat of his Tulsa embarrassment.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/trump-despondent-as-numbers-crater-loser-label-looms

[Mama Noodle]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It is now being reported

 

"Vanity Fair"

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

"Vanity Fair"

Three markers for you:

 

Trump’s next rally.

Trump’s polling numbers.

What happens immediately after Labor Day.

[Peterw42]

3 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

"Vanity Fair"

The perfect people to report on an election campaign that is all about Trumps Vanity, and not much else.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

21 hours ago, riclag said:

To your point!

Some of the off cuff tweets could of been more presidential, but that's the Queens New York swagger!  I expect him to come  out with a different approach, tagging biden as a socialist, while still trolling the opposition !There is so so much that America doesn't know about biden and so much America knows about Mr. Trump!

 

 

 

You know what would be cool to know about Trump....HIS TAXES. He is hiding something, he said he would release them ***5 YEARS AGO*** Until he releases his taxes like he said he would and like we all know he should (you know since every creditable candidate in recent history has done...including Biden) it isn't "New York Queens Swagger", whatever the hell that is. It is New York Mafia B.S. 

 

Until he releases his taxes, every time he is seen in a submissive light to Putin and Russia that is what comes to mind. What do they have on him. Trump should get that done so that issue gets put to rest. if he has nothing to hide how can releasing his taxes be a BAD thing? And by the way, if anybody says "he has the right to not divulge his taxes" that is a B.S. as well. DO NOT RUN FOR POTUS IF YOU CAN NOT BE AN OPEN BOOK WITH YOUR FINANCES...especially when you said many times you would...especially when you demand former presidents release their birth certificates...and until he does this, any mud he had to sling at Biden is wall dressing, manipulation and distraction.

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai

[bendejo]

20 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

Yes, but don't forget that she was considered a shoo-in prior to the election, in the early stages of the campaign, or that people thought it was nigh impossible for Trump to win.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

-- George Carlin, who also said

 

In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem.

 

As for me, I'll never say "nobody is that stupid" ever again.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by bendejo

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

You know what would be cool to know about Trump....HIS TAXES. He is hiding something, he said he would release them ***5 YEARS AGO*** Until he releases his taxes like he said he would and like we all know he should (you know since every creditable candidate in recent history has done...including Biden) it isn't "New York Queens Swagger", whatever the hell that is. It is New York Mafia B.S. 

 

Until he releases his taxes, every time he is seen in a submissive light to Putin and Russia that is what comes to mind. What do they have on him. Trump should get that done so that issue gets put to rest. if he has nothing to hide how can releasing his taxes be a BAD thing? And by the way, if anybody says "he has the right to not divulge his taxes" that is a B.S. as well. DO NOT RUN FOR POTUS IF YOU CAN NOT BE AN OPEN BOOK WITH YOUR FINANACES...especially when you said many times you would...especially when you demand former presidents release their birth certificates...and until he does this, any mud he had to sling at Biden is wall dressing, manipulation and distraction.

 

The simple explanation for why Trump hasn't released his taxes:

 

Not release:  The public may think that Trump's corrupt.

Release:  The public will know that Trump's corrupt. 

 

There's also that other thing about Trump not being nearly as rich as he claims to be. 

[Peterw42]

4 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

You know what would be cool to know about Trump....HIS TAXES. He is hiding something, he said he would release them ***5 YEARS AGO*** Until he releases his taxes like he said he would and like we all know he should (you know since every creditable candidate in recent history has done...including Biden) it isn't "New York Queens Swagger", whatever the hell that is. It is New York Mafia B.S. 

 

Until he releases his taxes, every time he is seen in a submissive light to Putin and Russia that is what comes to mind. What do they have on him. Trump should get that done so that issue gets put to rest. if he has nothing to hide how can releasing his taxes be a BAD thing? And by the way, if anybody says "he has the right to not divulge his taxes" that is a B.S. as well. DO NOT RUN FOR POTUS IF YOU CAN NOT BE AN OPEN BOOK WITH YOUR FINANCES...especially when you said many times you would...especially when you demand former presidents release their birth certificates...and until he does this, any mud he had to sling at Biden is wall dressing, manipulation and distraction.

 

Its not only his taxes, he wont release academic records, the results of his health checks while in office, details of his multiple bankruptcy's etc

[johnpetersen]

1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

Its not only his taxes, he wont release academic records, the results of his health checks while in office, details of his multiple bankruptcy's etc

Trump claimed that the reason Obama refused to release his academic records was that Obama was a mediocre student. And the reason that Trump refuses to release his is...?

[spiekerjozef]

On 7/2/2020 at 9:12 AM, Tug said:

He can’t help it he has absolutely no idea how to govern let alone within the framework of the constitution he doesent have the talent the worm has turned he’s toast

He can't help it he has absolutely no idea how to...... do anything, really.

Except saying you're fired.

[Peterw42]

1 hour ago, spiekerjozef said:

He can't help it he has absolutely no idea how to...... do anything, really.

Except saying you're fired.

He usually gives them the job first, then says you're fired.

[Andrew65]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

-- George Carlin, who also said

 

In America, anyone can become president. That's the problem.

 

As for me, I'll never say "nobody is that stupid" ever again.

 

 

In the UK anyone can be prime minister also.

When Americans talk about the 'popular vote', in the UK the current gvt were voted for by 43% of the electorate (Teresa May's gvt got 37%). The last time that more than 50% of the people voted for a British government in a general election was 1936.

[earlinclaifornia]

5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It is now being reported that Mitch McConnell has drawn a line in the sand and that Trump has until Labor Day to turn his abysmal polling around or face withdrawal of GOP support.

 

And as if to make matters worse for Trump, there is talk of canceling his next ‘Rally’ so as to avoid a repeat of his Tulsa embarrassment.

 

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/trump-despondent-as-numbers-crater-loser-label-looms

Interesting the Labor Day reference as I see that  James Carville also draws that as the date trump will make his decision: Significant chance that Trump doesn't run

•  
• https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/james-carville-significant-chance-that-trump-doesn-t-run-86801477752

[Silurian]

The month of June was absolutely brutal for Donald. His re-election odds just tanked!

 

2020 Presidential Odds: Analysis, Betting Information and Tips

 

 

Quote

...at -160, Joe Biden’s implied probability to win the 2020 election would be 61.54 percent and President Trump’s at +140 odds would be 41.67 percent.

 

[Silurian]

Will Donald drop out before the election? There is a possibility that he would try to save face by dropping out and claiming a 1 term victory. Donald already "Made American Great" so time to move on...

 

James Carville says there’s a ‘significant chance’ Trump drops out of the presidential race

 

Quote

That was Democratic strategist and “2020 Politics War Room” co-host James Carville on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on Thursday morning, doubling down on his prediction last week that Donald Trump will drop out of the presidential race before November.

He suggested on the Comcast-owned CMCS, news channel that Republican Senators including Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Martha McSally (R-Ariz.) and Dan Sullivan (R-Ark.) will try to separate themselves from Trump this fall. “This is the great ‘Moscow Mitch’ strategy. ‘After Labor Day, we’re going to turn on him.’ That’s really going to work,” Carville said with sarcasm.

 

It appears that after Labor Day, if Donald doesn't turn his numbers around, Mitch and company will turn their backs on Donald. Let the Republican in-fighting begin!

Edited July 3, 2020 by Silurian

[Silurian]

Ouch, when Donald's most predominant Silicon Valley donor turns his back on Donald, you know things are bad.

 

Trump's closest Silicon Valley ally, Peter Thiel, is reportedly abandoning the president's reelection campaign

 

Quote

President Donald Trump's most vocal supporter in Silicon Valley, Peter Thiel, is said to have lost faith that Trump can win the 2020 election.

Sources told The Wall Street Journal the PayPal cofounder had said he would not participate in this year's campaign as he did in 2016 because he thinks it's increasingly unlikely Trump can win.

The sources said Thiel might still vote for Trump but had not donated any money to the campaign thus far and didn't plan to

 

The money is drying up. Brad Parscale will need to find a new mark soon.

[johnpetersen]

President Trump won't be pleased about this:

US imports keep falling, except from China

US imports are at a five-year low, according to data released today by the US Department of Commerce. But while trade with the vast majority of countries has plunged since March, US imports from China are surging.

https://qz.com/1874325/us-imports-from-china-are-surging/

[metisdead]

Some troll posts have been removed. 

[bendejo]

11 hours ago, Andrew65 said:

In the UK anyone can be prime minister also.

When Americans talk about the 'popular vote', in the UK the current gvt were voted for by 43% of the electorate (Teresa May's gvt got 37%). The last time that more than 50% of the people voted for a British government in a general election was 1936.

Two electoral practices I've learned about in my travels that I quite like (and from unlikely places) are:

Brazil: voting is mandatory.  I'm not sure what the punishment is but I know the people I was around (who could not be called "well off") took it quite seriously.

Thailand: if the turnout is too low the election is void.  I'm really in favor of this.

 

 

[bendejo]

7 hours ago, Silurian said:

Will Donald drop out before the election? There is a possibility that he would try to save face by dropping out and claiming a 1 term victory. Donald already "Made American Great" so time to move on...

 

James Carville says there’s a ‘significant chance’ Trump drops out of the presidential race

 

 

It appears that after Labor Day, if Donald doesn't turn his numbers around, Mitch and company will turn their backs on Donald. Let the Republican in-fighting begin!

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but you guys are presupposing a fair election.  When DT says the system is rigged there is truth to it, and he knows this because his crew is hard at work doing the rigging.  And then there are the friends across the sea.  No doubt DT has seen the final episode of the series "Veep."

All he needs to do, when all is said and done, is have the decision come down to the Supreme Court, just like 2000. 

 

It appears that after Labor Day, if Donald doesn't turn his numbers around, Mitch and company will turn their backs on Donald.

What I think this implies is a distancing.  Those spineless GOP senators (nearly all) who have been standing by him in fear of losing his supporters will see him as a liability, and won't show support, but won't be denouncing him either. 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by bendejo

[Walker88]

On 7/2/2020 at 6:45 AM, riclag said:

I hear ya and I disagree > I'll trade you a  SHARYL ATTKISSON opinion piece from the Hill  and a  military  experts opinion for your March 2017 opinion article of  Vox ,ok! I'm gonna leave it at that !

 

https://combatveteransforcongress.org/story/how-nsa-director-admiral-mike-rogers-saved-us-massive-constitutional-crisis

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/351495-it-looks-like-obama-did-spy-on-trump-just-as-he-did-to-me

 

Does Sharyl Attkisson have a TS/SCI clearance? Is she an SIS-5 with lots of time on the 7th Floor?

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess "No to all", and stay with the SIS-5 7th Floor denizen, since I 'happen to know that individual', who knows all the recent DCIs, DDCIs, Ex-Dirs, etc. and is included on just about every Bigot List still in existence. Heck, the individual even has a Q clearance, which despite a widely held belief in the moonbat regions of the Dark Web, is merely a clearance given by the Dept of Energy to allow access into nuke matters, and it is hardly some super duper turbocharged members-only special access into the deepest secrets of this or any other known Universe.

 

I believe I might know the genesis of the 'tapping' issue, other than 45's fertile, deceitful and addled imagination.  Some 70% of all owners of condos in 45's eponymous tower are Russian mafia, who have long run various racketeering operations out of their 'home offices'. Since they engage in everything from money laundering to illegal gambling to drug running to contract killing, they have drawn the attention of US Law Enforcement, whether local and State police agencies or the Bureau. It is possible that one of these entities did 'tap' the criminals that call 45's tower home, and some people---including Fake News (fun to use that term!) spewers like sharyl attkisson and The Hill---could have erroneously extrapolated legitimate police work into some wild conspiracy theory. That, of course, is giving them the benefit of the doubt, when it's just as likely they simply made stuff up.

 

Personally, I wonder the ethics of an entity that has no problem selling property---in cash---to a host of people who even a 5 year old would surmise are not society's best, and about whom a simple Google search would show rap sheets that would make Eminem's writing desk look bare.

[Tie Dye Samurai]

8 hours ago, bendejo said:

It appears that after Labor Day, if Donald doesn't turn his numbers around, Mitch and company will turn their backs on Donald.

What I think this implies is a distancing.  Those spineless GOP senators (nearly all) who have been standing by him in fear of losing his supporters will see him as a liability, and won't show support, but won't be denouncing him either. 

 

 

I picture alot of this:

 

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by Tie Dye Samurai

[thaibeachlovers]

On 7/3/2020 at 3:48 PM, johnpetersen said:

Trump claimed that the reason Obama refused to release his academic records was that Obama was a mediocre student. And the reason that Trump refuses to release his is...?

Perhaps he's trying to annoy people that think he should release records he's not legally required to release. Appears that he's succeeded.

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, bendejo said:

It appears that after Labor Day, if Donald doesn't turn his numbers around, Mitch and company will turn their backs on Donald.

What I think this implies is a distancing.  Those spineless GOP senators (nearly all) who have been standing by him in fear of losing his supporters will see him as a liability, and won't show support, but won't be denouncing him either. 

555555555555555

Swampy GOP senators have, IMO, only supported Trump as they feared the electorate would kick them out if they didn't. it's not, IMO, as though they actually have principles other than staying in the swamp. If anyone thinks swampy politicians ever supported the man that was elected to get rid of "them" they ain't been paying attention. Of course if they should think the Donald was going to lose they'd be backstabbing him in a heartbeat. Shades of the Ides of March.

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps he's trying to annoy people that think he should release records he's not legally required to release. Appears that he's succeeded.

Perhaps the President of the United States shouldn't be a troll. Maybe, I dunno, he ought to run the country, address issues, that sort of thing.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Morch said:

Perhaps the President of the United States shouldn't be a troll. Maybe, I dunno, he ought to run the country, address issues, that sort of thing.

 

LOL. It's actually not his job to "run the country". That is the job of congress, which has been bent more on attacking Trump than earning their excessive pay.