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11 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

So you find it ok that a 50-something years old man pays 12-16 year old girls  for sexual acts? 

Don't put words in my mouth, I said I don't regard 16-17 year olds as children.

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I’ve watched the 4 part documentary of Epstein and whilst not condoning any illegal actions, the women making claims against him are 100% dollar led. They’d attend a party at one of his mansions

Anyone seen Prince Andrew this morning?

Headlines in six months:  "Ghislaine Maxwell did not kill herself."

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1 minute ago, 248900_1469958220 said:

I am HIGHLY skeptical of all this. I think if the CIA/FBI....BBC.....wanted to find her they could have at pretty much any time....No, I think deals have been made, <deleted> covered....this will be a nicely orchestrated trial for the media and sheeple. I hope I am wrong.

The government did a deal with Epstein at his first trial, giving him 13 months in jail, keeping the deal secret from his accusers, allowing him out every day, and giving him free rein when he was parolled. People talk about corrupt Thai police, not sure they are any better in the USA.

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3 hours ago, giddyup said:

I don't regard 16-17 year olds as "children", the age of consent is 16 in many countries. If the experience was so horrific as they claim, why did many of them keep going back for more over many years?

They ranged from 12 years old to 16 and the reason why they kept going back is because the pimps kept taking them back

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1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

They ranged from 12 years old to 16 and the reason why they kept going back is because the pimps kept taking them back

They were procured by other schoolgirls who said they could earn a quick buck and went willingly, not in chains. Some of those same girls visited him regularly for years. Show me evidence that he molested 12 year olds.

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9 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Don't put words in my mouth, I said I don't regard 16-17 year olds as children.

But that’s not relevant, is it? 
What is relevant is: do we find it ok that a 50ish y.o. man pays 12-16 y.o. girls for sexual acts. What’s your opinion? 

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3 hours ago, giddyup said:

I don't regard 16-17 year olds as "children", the age of consent is 16 in many countries. If the experience was so horrific as they claim, why did many of them keep going back for more over many years?

 

Hmmm... I'm not going to draw conclusions over the six who 'liked' your post.

Let's just put it this way. 16 & 17 year olds can be vulnerable, even if they don't think so at the time.

They can also be easily corrupted. Would you have said no to US$1000 when you were sixteen to do a favour for an older woman?

So who is guilty, the child who was easily corrupted or the one who knowingly corrupts?

 

I can speak from experience. I ran away from home at 15. So was somewhat vulnerable.

Though, I hold no grudges against the woman/women involved. Especially as the women involved didn't really require me to do anything. They seemed more interested in me being happy.

I even had a girlfriend at the time. We would stay together on the weekend in the second bedroom of the West End apartment. Everything was provided. Money, clothes, jewellery.

But the weekends were for my girlfriend. Woman involved asked what she could do to make it exclusive.

I guess for me the difference was that I actually ended up living with the woman, as tensions began to develop at another place I stayed. So she came to pick me up and I went to live with her. 

So not the same experience as just being used. 

But the point being that teenagers can be easily corrupted and we as adults shouldn't take advantage of that.

I should point out that the woman/women in my scenario were in their twenties. So it wasn't like creepy old women or anything like that.

But it was a bit uncomfortable when you are trying to watch TV, with a woman on either side of you, intent on distracting you.

 

Perhaps it's different because I am a man. I just get on with it, rather than trying to blame everything on my past.

So I don't automatically dismiss their stories, just because they were pulled into the party scene by Ghislane.

I know a bit about those people and their lifestyle. 

 

 

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Just now, Eindhoven said:

Would you have said no to US$1000 when you were sixteen to do a favour to an older woman?

I wouldn't say no now .......... age 64.

What does she want doing, light changed, hedge trimmed?

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2 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

But that’s not relevant, is it? 
What is relevant is: do we find it ok that a 50ish y.o. man pays 12-16 y.o. girls for sexual acts. What’s your opinion? 

Where do you get 12 year olds from? Show me proof that he molested 12 year olds.

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Without making too fine a point of it....you are always going to see arguments, as many aren't above coercing people, adults or otherwise, into doing them favours for cash.

 

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31 minutes ago, riclag said:

Wasn't that nitwit alex jones and he is a nitwit, floating conspiracy theories of this kinda of stuff with  important people and underage...

No idea, i take it you never bothered to look at the "art" work and formed your own opinion rather than relying on others?

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Just now, giddyup said:

Where do you get 12 year olds from? Show me proof that he molested 12 year olds.

 

Why is it that you are so defensive? The figure may be 14 years old. Does that make a difference to you? Is 14 ok, but 12 not?

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12 minutes ago, Peterhua said:

You seem to be hell bent on defending paedophile behaviour

 I wonder why? 

I'm pointing out the disparity and the hypocrisy of the law.

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