webfact Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 US man mistreated Thai dogs, says Watchdog Thailand - he countersues for theft The animal welfare group Watchdog Thailand went to the Saraphi police in Chiang Mai after finding 50 Thai Ridgeback dogs in appalling conditions. The dogs - stacked in cages on top of each other - were starving hungry, filthy and suffering from conditions like eczema. In addition dead dogs had just been left out unburied. The owner, aged 73, had called in a foreign volunteer group after he fell sick and was unable to feed the dogs. Then Watchdog got involved with Thai vets and went to the property to remove the animals. But trouble broke out after the US owner refused to let them take away five animals that were healthy that he wanted to keep. The animals are now in care at a sanctuary in Mae Taeng. The warring sides ended up at the police station. Watchdog said that the American - who lives alone - was mistreating the animals and selling them without permission to foreign clients abroad for 10,000 baht to 100,000 baht a time. They claimed their sources had told them he had abused animals before. The American denied all this saying he didn't want the animals to be all taken away - he just needed help with their feeding after an employee left him to do it alone and he fell sick. He said he does not sell the animals. He just looks after them. They had started breeding in increasing numbers. The reason they were all in cages is that this breed liked to bite each other, he told police. Now he has countersued Watchdog Thailand for theft of his animals. Investigations continue. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2020-07-03 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, webfact said: Watchdog said that the American - who lives alone - was mistreating the animals and selling them without permission to foreign clients abroad for 10,000 baht to 100,000 baht a time. When they say 'without permission', I'd have to guess they mean something like an export licence for livestock perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Somebody should stuff that American in a cage that size, see if he likes it. Animal abuse keeping dogs locked in cages like that. The smell must have been horrendous, dogs pissing on the dogs below, disgusting. Edited July 3, 2020 by colinneil 24 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchis Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 50 dogs in cages, can stop reading after that. ???????????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2long Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 "He said he does not sell the animals. He just looks after them." Well he clearly does NOT look after them. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bowman Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: The animal welfare group Watchdog Thailand I have a couple of Thai Ridgeback pups that are turning out to be some great dogs. Since, I am rather ignorant of this breed, I joined a Facebook site that has been a tremendous help. On this site they have a couple of videos about this incident and it is not pretty. Apparently this gentleman is infamous in the Thai Ridgeback community both here in Thailand and America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy from Kent Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, bluesofa said: When they say 'without permission', I'd have to guess they mean something like an export licence for livestock perhaps? I took it to mean there was a problem of no stuffed brown envelopes involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitewolfchefny Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, missoura said: I have a couple of Thai Ridgeback pups that are turning out to be some great dogs. Since, I am rather ignorant of this breed, I joined a Facebook site that has been a tremendous help. On this site they have a couple of videos about this incident and it is not pretty. Apparently this gentleman is infamous in the Thai Ridgeback community both here in Thailand and America. Missouri: I'm looking for a nice Thai Ridgeback puppy for my family. Can you recommend a reputable breeder or kennel? We live in Chiang Rai. Thanks, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 What´s clear here is that the American man has a very mistreated brain. Who in their right mind keeps 50 dogs att home, and still breeding them with no intention to sell? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post holy cow cm Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 Totally unacceptable for any animal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Anyone checked his immigration status? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TR info Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 He doesn’t sell them??? He is a LIAR!!! He has been selling dogs for years and years and has bragged about it for just as long! The screenshot is from his own website from 2009 in his own words and he was selling dogs long before that too! Even on his current Facebook page you can see he lists dogs for sale and their prices. He is not mentally stable if he thinks anyone will fall for his false claims! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 A troll post and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jak2002003 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 14 hours ago, holy cow cm said: Totally unacceptable for any animal. Hope you don't eat pork or chicken...as these animals are treated far worse than the dogs in this story. I am glad they took the dogs off him and I hope they get new homes. His story is unbelievable. I suspect the authorities got involved because he was selling dogs without work permits or permission, rsther than the way he treated them. But, the outcome is still better for the dogs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 silly old coot ...... lock him up and euthanase all the dogs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Matzzon said: What´s clear here is that the American man has a very mistreated brain. Who in their right mind keeps 50 dogs att home, and still breeding them with no intention to sell? who in their right mind keeps 5 dogs? many round us do then leave them out in the yards all day and never take them out. Thai on SIL nice estate has 30 and no garden to speak of, lots of complaints but he claims it's his right to have as many as he wants! Edited July 4, 2020 by Orton Rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Orton Rd said: who in their right mind keeps 5 dogs? many round us do then leave them out in the yards all day and never take them out. Right! Just having 2 dogs is as much work a regular person can and wish to handle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 21 hours ago, colinneil said: Somebody should stuff that American in a cage that size, see if he likes it. Animal abuse keeping dogs locked in cages like that. The smell must have been horrendous, dogs pissing on the dogs below, disgusting. 17 hours ago, Matzzon said: What´s clear here is that the American man has a very mistreated brain. Who in their right mind keeps 50 dogs att home, and still breeding them with no intention to sell? The man whether American, Brit or whatever was handicapped and could no longer take care for the large kennel. Apparently he did so and the numbers got out of hand. He did the right thing and asked for help. However 50 dogs are way to much for anyone to have. Apparently some like to criticize him for being American but would ignore it if he was a Brit. Hypocrite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChakaKhan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Im sure his neighbours are happy--can imagine the smells and barking How is he able to sell them--illegally??? Immigration may not be happy... As far as the cages to prevent breeding---cant get them neutered/ spayed? lastly the internet never forgets --it is forever...karma? Quite a journey for a pup to make it abroad safely....id track down the people on that list and inform them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 22 hours ago, colinneil said: Somebody should stuff that American in a cage that size, see if he likes it. Animal abuse keeping dogs locked in cages like that. The smell must have been horrendous, dogs pissing on the dogs below, disgusting. Your such a kind old man, but major grumpy and bitter. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed or something. BTW today is July 4th, American Independence Day. This was the day that was the beginning of the end to the British Empire. The British nation was once a first tear nation but is no longer. Therefore America and introduction of modern representative democracy did a great service to the entire world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, checkered flag said: Your such a kind old man, but major grumpy and bitter. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed or something. BTW today is July 4th, American Independence Day. This was the day that was the beginning of the end to the British Empire. The British nation was once a first tear nation but is no longer. Therefore America and introduction of modern representative democracy did a great service to the entire world. But Colin is quite correct. Your second paragraph is off topic. Edited July 4, 2020 by faraday 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, checkered flag said: Apparently some like to criticize him for being American but would ignore it if he was a Brit. Hypocrite Nope, I think the way the British people behaved at Bournemouth beach was disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, faraday said: But Colin is quite correct. Your second paragraph is off topic. No its about the anti American sediment expressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, faraday said: Nope, I think the way the British people behaved at Bournemouth beach was disgraceful. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Here we go again.... ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaidDown Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, checkered flag said: No its about the anti American sediment expressed. He must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 40 minutes ago, ThaidDown said: He must be scraping the bottom of the barrel. This must be a British thing. I don't know about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ChakaKhan said: Im sure his neighbours are happy--can imagine the smells and barking How is he able to sell them--illegally??? Immigration may not be happy... As far as the cages to prevent breeding---cant get them neutered/ spayed? lastly the internet never forgets --it is forever...karma? Quite a journey for a pup to make it abroad safely....id track down the people on that list and inform them This isn't a good situation but the accuracy of reporting might make it worse. I take anything from WebFact as less than accurate and usually go to the source. To be credible sources need to be checked, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, checkered flag said: This must be a British thing. I don't know about that. Not a British thing just my sentiment about sediment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, checkered flag said: The man whether American, Brit or whatever was handicapped and could no longer take care for the large kennel. Apparently he did so and the numbers got out of hand. He did the right thing and asked for help. However 50 dogs are way to much for anyone to have. Apparently some like to criticize him for being American but would ignore it if he was a Brit. Hypocrite What are you on about. If the news mention a Brit, then I describe it as a Brit in my posts and replies. Now it was an American and then he got described as an American. What deserves the name Hypocrite there. Or do you mean that using the word American is a nasty word? Maybe you know the mans name, and then I will use that. We just used what was given to us as information in the news, and would have been doing that disregarding what ever nationality it regards. Just take you overloaded patriotism and put it to use on people you can control. They are not in this forum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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