Popular Post canuckamuck Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 If anyone manages to thread the needle and find their way back to Thailand, Please relate your experience here, about what really happened and what process you took to get back. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 Sure if you you have enough money there will be a way to buy yourself in I don't so I wont ???? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, sammieuk1 said: Sure if you you have enough money there will be a way to buy yourself in I don't so I wont ???? Everything is being controlled and checked by the Army. Senior immigration are not getting a look in. MFA is deciding ‘officially’ who can enter. State Quarantine and ASQ are being inspected regularly by soldiers. The only way in outside of the ‘official route’ is if someone very very senior in the Military gives the go-ahead. Edited July 3, 2020 by richard_smith237 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bodga Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: The only way in outside of the ‘official route’ is if someone very very senior in the Military gives the go-ahead. Those borders surrounding Thailand are VERY porous 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritTim Posted July 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, bodga said: Those borders surrounding Thailand are VERY porous That is true, but I would not fancy being in Thailand with no immigration stamp in my passport. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 An Ozzie friend of mine says the Sydney Consulate says he should be able to fly in on the 19th, and they will hopefully be granting him a fresh non-o. He’s got “United Healthcare Global” insurance through his job and they provided a letter that clearly states he is covered for “$100,000 USD in the event of contracting covid” Still unconfirmed yet, but looks promising. He’s also booked quarantine 37k baht, and the only thing I’m waiting to see from him is how he manages the “fit to fly certificate” once he shows me that, and actually makes it to Thailand, then I’m departing Thailand and going back to work. Just waiting to see how it’s done first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: He’s also booked quarantine 37k baht, That sounds VERY cheap. How can you quarantine someone for 14 days with 3 meals/day etc for 37k. Along with tests etc. Security etc. Any details re that charge. Also what do you mean "he booked quarantine"? Edited July 4, 2020 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: That sounds VERY cheap. How can you quarantine someone for 14 days with 3 meals/day etc for 37k. Along with tests etc. Security etc. Any details re that charge. Also what do you mean "he booked quarantine"? He says he booked a hotel/alternative quarantine for that price, how all the testing and hospital trips plays out I don’t know that’s what I’m waiting to see as well. There are lists of hotels doing this service now and the details are all over the place. https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=EB56CFF028EB5ED8!284302&ithint=file%2cdocx&authkey=!AKdbvELtpFDVJsA Dude on twitter made that list, but more are coming online all the time. gotta look through and get the details, contact them and ask. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I'm in Australia, with Australian and Thai passports. I have to figure out how to get permission to leave Australia, then get all the certificates and letters required to enter Thailand. I'm stuck! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleMhee Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, dbrenn said: I'm in Australia, with Australian and Thai passports. I have to figure out how to get permission to leave Australia, then get all the certificates and letters required to enter Thailand. I'm stuck! So you're in Australia.....you have a Thai Passport!! I'd hardly see that as stuck.....Thais are arriving back regularly. Go talk to the Embassy or one of the Consulates. I'm sure they'll be able to give you the necessary information from the Thai side. The link is to exemptions the Australian government provide to allow you to leave the country. Good Luck!! https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, dbrenn said: I'm in Australia, with Australian and Thai passports. I have to figure out how to get permission to leave Australia, then get all the certificates and letters required to enter Thailand. The Australia permission apparently will be easy part of it. You will just ask for a exemption will proof you are living here. For permission to enter Thailand will not be that easy. Covid test, fit to fly letter and 14 day quarantine after arriving. Contact the embassy for more info. https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, UncleMhee said: So you're in Australia.....you have a Thai Passport!! I'd hardly see that as stuck.....Thais are arriving back regularly. Go talk to the Embassy or one of the Consulates. I'm sure they'll be able to give you the necessary information from the Thai side. The link is to exemptions the Australian government provide to allow you to leave the country. Good Luck!! https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia Thais are free to leave Australia any time they like. Australians aren't. If you're a resident or citizen of Australia, you have to get permission to leave regardless of what other citizenship you have. Australia quarantines people on the way in, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: The Australia permission apparently will be easy part of it. You will just ask for a exemption will proof you are living here. For permission to enter Thailand will not be that easy. Covid test, fit to fly letter and 14 day quarantine after arriving. Contact the embassy for more info. https://canberra.thaiembassy.org/ I've heard that the Australian permission is far from easy, with lots of arbitrary refusals. I might give it a try and see what they say. I'm living in Australia by the way. Covid is flaring up again here, so this could go on for a long time..... As you say, getting permission to enter Thailand will also be onerous. Edited July 4, 2020 by dbrenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Mama Noodle said: An Ozzie friend of mine says the Sydney Consulate says he should be able to fly in on the 19th, and they will hopefully be granting him a fresh non-o. What does it mean in more precise terms? The consulates and embassies don't issue the initial approvals. The Ministry of foreign affairs in Thailand does. Did he actually get an approval from MFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, unheard said: What does it mean in more precise terms? I dunno man, Im in Thailand getting his info. Have you contacted you local consulate/embassy and asked? All im doing is re-iterating what he told me, and he says what's holding him from actually getting any confirmations is that hes still doing quarantine in OZ. Hes a fellow oil worker like me whose already done about 6 weeks of quarantine over several different countries trying to finish a project and get home. We were on the same project and by luck I rotated out in early march and made it home to Thailand, he was scheduled to leave a little later and then Thailand closed down. Hes been in limbo ever since. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mattd Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 hours ago, DrJack54 said: That sounds VERY cheap. How can you quarantine someone for 14 days with 3 meals/day etc for 37k. Along with tests etc. Security etc. Any details re that charge. Also what do you mean "he booked quarantine"? There are at least 11 BKK hotels now offering ASQ and the range of prices are from 30,000 THB to 144,000 THB net, inclusive of meals and at least 2 Covid tests. 5 hours ago, dbrenn said: I've heard that the Australian permission is far from easy, with lots of arbitrary refusals. I might give it a try and see what they say. I'm living in Australia by the way. Covid is flaring up again here, so this could go on for a long time..... As you say, getting permission to enter Thailand will also be onerous. I know of several Australians that are leaving Australia for work overseas and then entering again after, obviously then they must do quarantine, none of them have mentioned any issue getting permission to leave Australia, you just need to have a valid reason and proof of such, I don't know your personal circumstances, however, you should check with the correct governmental department as to what can be done, especially if you have family or work here. Getting in to Thailand should be relatively straightforward for you as a Thai citizen, you may have to put your name on a wait list for repatriating Thais, again I know of many who have returned, mainly from UAE. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mattd said: I know of several Australians that are leaving Australia for work overseas and then entering again after, obviously then they must do quarantine, none of them have mentioned any issue getting permission to leave Australia, Fact is we have not heard from one person that has done this (eg Australian returning to Thailand) obtaining certificate of entry and the required insurance and the fit to fly and covid medical certificate etc. Along with details regarding quarantine experience. The government quarantine provided for Thai nationals is very different from hotels. What has happened in Victoria AU, is a disaster. The hotels that were used to quarantine used non trained and quickly thrown together security staff. Edited July 4, 2020 by DrJack54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluek Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 A Kiwi just finished the whole process (flight, quarantine) and posted multiple daily updates on Twitter. His handle there is @wayne_hay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, BritTim said: That is true, but I would not fancy being in Thailand with no immigration stamp in my passport. But they wouldn't know you were here...... it's not like being on an expired visa or overstay Not saying its ideal but i you had oodles of money and wanted to lie low parts of Thailand would be ideal (like my area just near Burmese) border south of Prachuap maybe Ms Maxwell should have taken up the offer Edited July 4, 2020 by poohy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, DrJack54 said: Fact is we have not heard from one person that has done this (eg Australian returning to Thailand) obtaining certificate of entry and the required insurance and the fit to fly and covid medical certificate etc. Along with details regarding quarantine experience. The government quarantine provided for Thai nationals is very different from hotels. What has happened in Victoria AU, is a disaster. The hotels that were used to quarantine used non trained and quickly thrown together security staff. Since the fact that the entry for certain categories of Foreigners has only been available since 1st July, then not many will have made the attempt to enter Thailand yet, however, I was replying to a post made by a dual Thai and Aussie citizen, which changes things a lot, as Thailand cannot refuse him entry, yes he would need to get the fit for fly and go to quarantine upon arrival. Why do you say that the government quarantine for Thais is very different from hotels? All the ones I know have been quarantined in a hotel, Ambassador in BKK and Jomtien, from what I understand it is perfectly OK, although the room doesn't get cleaned and no laundry service, they do get 3 meals a day, TV, free WiFi and 2 covid tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 49 minutes ago, dluek said: A Kiwi just finished the whole process (flight, quarantine) and posted multiple daily updates on Twitter. His handle there is @wayne_hay Thanks for that. Just to add breaking news from OZ where Victoria has just locked down 3 high rise buildings housing 3000 people. The outbreak in Victoria came about leaks in ill fated Quarantine in hotels. Perhaps this may impact on Australians trying to return to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 10 hours ago, bodga said: 11 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: The only way in outside of the ‘official route’ is if someone very very senior in the Military gives the go-ahead. Those borders surrounding Thailand are VERY porous Good luck walking in through the Jungle.... you could also sky-dive in or get smuggled in on a fishing boat... Porosity of borders is a rather useless in this context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 hour ago, DrJack54 said: 2 hours ago, Mattd said: I know of several Australians that are leaving Australia for work overseas and then entering again after, obviously then they must do quarantine, none of them have mentioned any issue getting permission to leave Australia, Fact is we have not heard from one person that has done this (eg Australian returning to Thailand) obtaining certificate of entry and the required insurance and the fit to fly and covid medical certificate etc. Along with details regarding quarantine experience. The government quarantine provided for Thai nationals is very different from hotels. What has happened in Victoria AU, is a disaster. The hotels that were used to quarantine used non trained and quickly thrown together security staff. My Wife has called up a couple of the ASQ hotels (Alternate State Quarantine), namely: Centerpoint Thonglor and Siam Mandarina - Both are already accommodating Westerners. I know this is different from the state quarantine and no specific to returning Australians - however, the ASQ is functioning and foreigners are getting in - There are just no first hand accounts so far, on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Yep! In December 2019! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, dluek said: A Kiwi just finished the whole process (flight, quarantine) and posted multiple daily updates on Twitter. His handle there is @wayne_hay Ah yeah he’s the Al Jazeera journalist, I follow him too. Pretty sure he got special permission though, being a journalist. For us regular plebs it’ll probably be a bit different. but he did have interesting info on the hotel quarantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 For the people who have BookFace there’s some new hotels added to the list. Just follow it along and visit their websites. https://m.facebook.com/180940151929407/posts/3354247671265290/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unheard Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Mama Noodle said: I dunno man, Im in Thailand getting his info. Have you contacted you local consulate/embassy and asked? Here's a thing.. There are multiple threads here regarding the process. The details are established and proven at this point. The well known fact is your local embassy or consulate is nothing more than a relaying point for a decision to allow a foreigner to enter Thailand. The decision on the application to enter is being channeled from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Thailand down to your local embassy/consulate. The embassy/consulate will only take over the process after they get a message/decision on your case straight from MFA. Until then they have zero knowledge about anyone's application outcome. There must be some misunderstanding of what your friend has told you. Because for the Embassy/consulate to start making any arrangements for a foreigner to enter Thailand they must first get an approval on the case from MFA. Without such an approval there's no point of discussing any arrangements, reserving hotels, flights etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 17 hours ago, DrJack54 said: That sounds VERY cheap. How can you quarantine someone for 14 days with 3 meals/day etc for 37k. Along with tests etc. Security etc. Any details re that charge. Also what do you mean "he booked quarantine"? You can choose hotel when you agree to the 14 days quarantine. There's a list of hotels in Bkk. The cost is from ~37k to 144k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 hours ago, unheard said: The well known fact is your local embassy or consulate is nothing more than a relaying point for a decision to allow a foreigner to enter Thailand. So you didn’t call your local thai embassy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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