digital Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I've seen baking products I guess a margarine that look like butter in many different brands, its packed in plastic bags. Any recommendations for a brand that is good for cooking/baking as a butter alternative, can it just be used as a direct replacement for butter when following recipes 1:1, I know the taste won't be quite the same but which one is a good/best alternative? Thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Samson Gold palm oil works well for me. Available from most bakery supply shops. I use it in all my pastry/cakes/biscuits. Edited July 4, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Olive oil, you can use olive oil instead of butter when sautéing vegetables and meat. ... Ghee. ... Greek yogurt. ... Avocado. ... Pumpkin purée. ... Mashed bananas. ... Coconut oil. ... Applesauce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Samson Gold palm oil works well for me. Available from most bakery supply shops. I use it in all my pastry/cakes/biscuits. Palm oil has a high saturated fat content, which can be harmful to cardiovascular health Not to mention: Palm oil has been and continues to be a major driver of deforestation of some of the world's most biodiverse forests, destroying the habitat of already endangered species like the Orangutan, pygmy elephant and Sumatran rhino But each to their own. 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cooked Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Cook with butter. MUCH healthier than margarine. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digital Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Thanks for all replies. Is the Sam Son Gold you use the one with a palm & coconut oil blend. Do you use in same quantity as you would butter? I know butter is healthier and more sustainable, I'd seen this margarine and was interested what it was like. I don't expect many bakeries use butter due to the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, digital said: Thanks for all replies. Is the Sam Son Gold you use the one with a palm & coconut oil blend. Do you use in same quantity as you would butter? I know butter is healthier and more sustainable, I'd seen this margarine and was interested what it was like. I don't expect many bakeries use butter due to the cost. All my Mom's recipes start with "8 packs of butter". Well, actually 2, the 8 is a family joke. My Dad's version is "pour olive oil until you feel it's enough". Margarine is evil. Palm oil is "liquid cancer" according to some of my Thai family. They prefer, I think, coconut oil (which got it's own issues). When in doubt, fire up the grill. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, digital said: I know butter is healthier and more sustainable Then why substitute, may we ask? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 If we talk about health; Vegetable oils are very rich in monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat, where pure olive oil and sunflower oil are the best, while animal fats such as butter are richer in saturated fat. For me it is clear; I always use Oil olive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tarteso said: I always use Oil olive. On the other hand palm oil is 50bht/Kg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, digital said: Is the Sam Son Gold you use the one with a palm & coconut oil blend. Do you use in same quantity as you would butter? I generally use a bit less ..... maybe 25% less. Oatmeal cookies with peanuts and ginger and mince pies both work well with SamSon oil. Edited July 4, 2020 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Olive oil, works a treat. Also use none at all, see below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 For baking I use Emborg Cook & Bake. I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference from using butter. It's 65 baht versus 149 for Emborg butter, so much cheaper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankeesvsredsox Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, BritManToo said: I generally use a bit less ..... maybe 25% less. Oatmeal cookies with peanuts and ginger and mince pies both work well with SamSon oil. Show off ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Oxx said: For baking I use Emborg Cook & Bake. I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference from using butter. It's 65 baht versus 149 for Emborg butter, so much cheaper. Emborg 65bht for 250g Vs Samson Gold 45bht for 1Kg. Or to match similar weights ....... 260bht Vs 45bht. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Cheapness shouldn't be the sold criterion. Sam Son uses artificial butter flavouring, Emborg uses butter oil. Sam Son also contains hydrogenated oils which aren't particularly good for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 22 hours ago, 4MyEgo said: Olive oil, you can use olive oil instead of butter when sautéing vegetables and meat. ... Ghee. ... Greek yogurt. ... Avocado. ... Pumpkin purée. ... Mashed bananas. ... Coconut oil. ... Applesauce. Is there a reliable general source for Ghee in Thailand? Have looked but never seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: Is there a reliable general source for Ghee in Thailand? Have looked but never seen. I make my own Ghee it's simple. Start with the best quality unsalted butter you can buy and melt it in a saucepan. Skim off the white scum that floats to the top (milk fat) and pour the clear liquid into a container keeping the scum on the bottom in the pan. On the OP - I use extra virgin olive oil/ghee/butter combinations for most cooking. I have never bought margarine for anything for a very long time. Never would use palm oil either. Makro do a reasonable quality 5 litres extra virgin olive oil for about 900 Baht. Lasts a long time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post innosiem Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 if for yourself, just eat butter for your health. if for business, there is no substitute for butter only alternatives, as nothing acts like butter 100% when cooking any alternative fat you use will reduce the quality and taste of your products you can literally replace butter with any other fat but taste and quality will be affected so does also depend on what is being made like using say tallow recipe to make savory pastry is fine but if all you are concerned about is cost, use the dirt cheapest unhealthiest palm oil you can find as a benchmark try making decent croissants without using butter for comparison. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibreakfast Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Homefresh makes a quite good butter that sells for about 170 baht per kilo. Not quite sure how they make that price point. Lately it's gotten better since they started to culture it as do the Europeans. They do put in a bit of malto-dextrin. Probably for reasons having to do with texture. They also make a more upscale version called Century House which costs more but much less than comparable European butters. It's also cultured and very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibreakfast Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 10:10 AM, Dumbastheycome said: Is there a reliable general source for Ghee in Thailand? Have looked but never seen. They sell several brands at Makro. I've seen it elsewhere, too. I can't vouch for it since I don't use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 8:36 PM, thaibreakfast said: Homefresh makes a quite good butter that sells for about 170 baht per kilo. That's a very reasonable price. Where do you buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyenyen Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 6:13 PM, BritManToo said: Oatmeal cookies with peanuts and ginger. Those cookies look good. Can you share the recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) On 7/4/2020 at 10:21 PM, Saltire said: I make my own Ghee it's simple. Start with the best quality unsalted butter you can buy and melt it in a saucepan. Skim off the white scum that floats to the top (milk fat) and pour the clear liquid into a container keeping the scum on the bottom in the pan. After reading about the health benefits of ghee (clarified butter), I started looking for it in the stores. They're getting stupid money for it, at $10-20 per pound, even in the USA where dairy is heavily subsidized. So I make my own, too. Then sometimes dilute it with olive oil, depending on what I'm using it for. Edited October 5, 2020 by impulse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarteso Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) For your health; No butter, not animal fat. Vegetal oil; The only one and very best Olive oil. (Extra virgen pure oil). I cook Thai or “farang” food only with Olive Oil...without doubt and No discussion Edited October 5, 2020 by Tarteso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted October 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, jaiyenyen said: Those cookies look good. Can you share the recipe? Biscuits, 125 g (4oz) palm oil, 125 g (4oz) self-raising flour, 125 g (4oz) sugar, 125 g (4oz) porridge oats (rolled) Add another 3-4oz Muesli mix to make the texture more interesting. Flavours 2 tablespoon ginger, 43g broken peanuts (or choc drops, 43g broken peanuts) Sometimes a handful of raisins as well. MIx it all together, add a little milk until a stiff dough, roll flat and use a glass to press out circles 1/4" thick. Cook 10 mins then turn and cook 5 mins @175c Edited October 5, 2020 by BritManToo 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stouricks Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Tarteso said: For your health; No butter, not animal fat. Vegetal oil; The only one and very best Olive oil. (Extra virgen pure oil). I cook Thai or “farang” food only with Olive Oil...without doubt and No discussion For Thai food, use Rice Bran Oil. It does not overpower the taste of the other ingredients like Olive Oil can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trucking Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 11:11 AM, 4MyEgo said: Palm oil has a high saturated fat content, which can be harmful to cardiovascular health Favorite with Thais on account of price. Avoid Thai food especially anything deep fried like patango etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Tarteso said: For your health; No butter, not animal fat. Vegetal oil; The only one and very best Olive oil. (Extra virgen pure oil). I cook Thai or “farang” food only with Olive Oil...without doubt and No discussion Getting decent plus olive oil in Thailand is not trivial. At least not outside of big cities and at a reasonable cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooked Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, trucking said: Favorite with Thais on account of price. Avoid Thai food especially anything deep fried like patango etc. I usually get "you poor deluded soul" comments when I say this: (Assume I'm typing all caps) There is no scientific (meaning unbiased, not financed by Crisco and company) evidence that saturated fats damage your health. There IS in fact evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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