Popular Post rooster59 Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Alcoholic drinks-makers see red over draft law banning online sale By THE NATION The Thai Alcohol Beverage Business Association (TABBA) wants the government to consider scrapping the draft law banning online sales of alcholic beverages, arguing that it would be unfair to the beverage-makers and also restricted the basic right of consumers, said association president Thanakorn Kuptajit. His reaction follows the National Alcoholic Beverage Policy Committee's endorsement on July 2 of the draft proposed by the PM's Office, which bans the sale of alcoholic beverages via electronic channel to prevent youth from easily accessing such products, and to reduce the impact on society of alcoholic drinks. He said that the law would affect alcoholic drinks-makers who do business honestly and in line with the current law. If they cannot do business, they might have to shut down business, he warned. Reacting to concerns that online sales will make it easier for youth to access the beverages, he said TABBA could get the beverage-makers to check the age of the buyers, record their information, the time of the transaction and product delivery. He added that the draft was not in line with the current policy of promoting social distancing and discouraging non-essential travel. He said the private businesses were willing to follow the law but wanted the law to ensure fair treatment to all. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/30390797 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-07-05 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLS Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 If the underage sale is the problem then check the buyer’s age for online and in store purchases as advanced countries do. But as seen many times before they throw the baby out with the bathwater. 38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Speaking of online sales, wish beer is out of stock for my fav Knee Deep Imperial, anyong know of other places that sell it (online) ? https://wishbeer.com/collections/beer/products/knee-deep-imperial-tanilla-20l-100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J Town Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 Why would kids bother online when they can get it at any mom & pop store throughout Thailand? This sounds like a means to generate more brown envelopes. 50 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted July 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2020 41 minutes ago, CLS said: If the underage sale is the problem then check the buyer’s age for online and in store purchases as advanced countries do. But as seen many times before they throw the baby out with the bathwater. I agree, first they should try to compel online buyers to provide ID when making a purchases even though this is not a fool proof and can be manipulated, butt if statistically things don't improve than go in with this law... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLS Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, ezzra said: I agree, first they should try to compel online buyers to provide ID when making a purchases even though this is not a fool proof and can be manipulated, butt if statistically things don't improve than go in with this law... Done the right way it cannot be manipulated. In my home country when buying alcohol online you confirm by accepting the T/C that you are of allowed age. Alcohol is only handed out to you against signature. If the postman/delivery service thinks that you are not old enough, they are entitled to ask for an ID. The same way as you can be asked in a store. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post madmitch Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Who will lose out by this action apart from consumers? Small independent brewers and importers and suppliers of foreign beers and wines. Who will gain? The big brewers, whose profits won't be up to the usual obscene amounts due to the COVID-19 restrictions. This is yet another example of the Government finding an excuse to help the elite families of Thailand. 29 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) You can't but it on line unless the on line company is owned by BIG C ? Edited July 5, 2020 by VocalNeal 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, CLS said: If the underage sale is the problem then check the buyer’s age for online and in store purchases as advanced countries do. But as seen many times before they throw the baby out with the bathwater. so then they ask an older friend to order it for them and they just pay him ? as they do in advanced countries. 3 2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Don Mega said: Speaking of online sales, wish beer is out of stock for my fav Knee Deep Imperial, anyong know of other places that sell it (online) ? https://wishbeer.com/collections/beer/products/knee-deep-imperial-tanilla-20l-100 they didn't order anymore as the taste is foul from what i gather. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, steven100 said: they didn't order anymore as the taste is foul from what i gather. I quiet like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: I quiet like it. haha ... i know, i'm just kidding .... maybe try villa market, foodland or wine connection online. I just googled it, and it seems it's rarely sold here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sungod Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, steven100 said: so then they ask an older friend to order it for them and they just pay him ? as they do in advanced countries. or send their older friend around the shop.... 8 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, steven100 said: so then they ask an older friend to order it for them and they just pay him ? as they do in advanced countries. Called a Straw purchase, just like kids asking an adult before they walk into a liquor store in the US do. Of course you need another agency such as ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control) to work on these issues as well, and do education to the populace. Yes i said Education, I know Thai's do not listen to what they do not care too. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, rooster59 said: arguing that it would be unfair to the beverage-makers and also restricted the basic right of consumers alcohol ... responsible for most road deaths, fights, domestic violence... yeah, basic rights 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Don Mega said: Speaking of online sales, wish beer is out of stock for my fav Knee Deep Imperial, anyong know of other places that sell it (online) ? https://wishbeer.com/collections/beer/products/knee-deep-imperial-tanilla-20l-100 You can always call this number and ask. They deliver Craft Beer in Bangkok. They also have Knee Deep Brand. 064-146-4983 You also have: Titan Craft Beer: Mobile 0897440446 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: which bans the sale of alcoholic beverages via electronic channel to prevent youth from easily accessing such products, and to reduce the impact on society of alcoholic drinks. why ban something you can buy in every 7/11 every 100 yards, or ma and pa store every 50 yards ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Matzzon said: You can always call this number and ask. They deliver Craft Beer in Bangkok. They also have Knee Deep Brand. 064-146-4983 You also have: Titan Craft Beer: Mobile 0897440446 Have been to O'glee, great place with some tasty beers on tap, do they deliver to Pattaya ? Titan craft beer website does not work and their facebook page is removed.... are they still in bussiness ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Have been to O'glee, great place with some tasty beers on tap, do they deliver to Pattaya ? Titan craft beer website does not work and their facebook page is removed.... are they still in bussiness ? I think they are in business. Just try and call and you will find out. Anyway, I am quite sure O´glee can deliver to Pattaya. They sent to Korat one time to a friend of mine. Just that you have to pay them in advance. Edited July 5, 2020 by Matzzon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: I think they are in business. Just try and call and you will find out. Anyway, I am quite sure O´glee can deliver to Pattaya. They sent to Korat one time to a friend of mine. Just that you have to pay them in advance. The phone was turned off. Will email O'glee to sort a delivery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Should we then not also ban junk food deliveries, sugar, sugary drinks, medications, fake vitamines, fake slimming aids. I don't smoke, but can order fags online. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodyholly Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 “... and also restricted the basic right of consumers...” since when has this been a priority? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisY1 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 The usual reaction of wowsers that like to be seen as the purist of Thai citizens, who view alcohol beverages as a sin and then introduce these stupid bans that only affect a very small part of the population. However, having mia noi/s, theft of public funds and massive corruption, differing laws for the connected and etc, is fine in their immature minds. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, Bender Rodriguez said: alcohol ... responsible for most road deaths, fights, domestic violence... yeah, basic rights I dont mind people taking alcohol (or any other drug) as long as they don't operate a vehicle or bother / endanger others. I think it should be a basic right however if you abuse it you should be punished. I don't see why the good always have to suffer because of actions by those who cant control themselves. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, robblok said: I dont mind people taking alcohol (or any other drug) as long as they don't operate a vehicle or bother / endanger others. I think it should be a basic right however if you abuse it you should be punished. I don't see why the good always have to suffer because of actions by those who cant control themselves. In a perfect world, yes, but it's not a perfect world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, stephenterry said: In a perfect world, yes, but it's not a perfect world. So your for a total alcohol ban as its among one of the worst drugs violence wise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Given the way that the Thai government operates, you can forget about child welfare or other minor distractions, and try to figure out how they will make money from this law. That will provide the answers you seek grasshopper, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, robblok said: So your for a total alcohol ban as its among one of the worst drugs violence wise ? Time for prohibition and the land of speakeasies. That might be the new normal type of bar, one down a back alley, a non descript door, a password needing to get in, and then the Speakeasy is born....Bring on the Rum Runners and the Moonshine Still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, robblok said: So your for a total alcohol ban as its among one of the worst drugs violence wise ? My response was aligned to this section of your post: I dont mind people taking alcohol (or any other drug) as long as they don't operate a vehicle or bother / endanger others. If you take the time to reflect, instead of jumping in with an accusation, Rob, that's impossible for you or others to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, stephenterry said: My response was aligned to this section of your post: I dont mind people taking alcohol (or any other drug) as long as they don't operate a vehicle or bother / endanger others. If you take the time to reflect, instead of jumping in with an accusation, Rob, that's impossible for you or others to control. What do you mean then ? I my point was that all those alcohol and (soft) drug restrictions are just b.s and bother users that are responsible. I prefer them to go after those that cause trouble when high / drunk. Not those that have pint in a bar and don't do a thing or those blowing a bit and chill out assaulting a mars bar. However if any of them drive a car/bike they should be locked up for years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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