ThailandRyan Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, neverere said: I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance. It is Manslaughter and nothing more. Either with Gross Negligence or without. Unless the DA has enough, with prior planning, premeditation or other evidence to charge murder then Manslaughter is what will be the true charge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, neverere said: I find it incredible that so many on this thread are condoning murder, how did so many of you become morally derelict ? You should all take a look in the mirror and ask yourselves how you would feel in one of your children or siblings was killed in cold blood by some nutjob, standing up for what they believed was right, regardless of your political stance. Has the driver been charged with murder ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, ftpjtm said: So you're saying that an entire ethnicity or profession shouldn't be judged by the actions of a few of their members? ???? I know! Crazy concept! Any follow up uestions? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, tlandtday said: Yeah the guy should have slowed down but it is undersandable that if protesters can get angry and beat people, burn down buildings, occupy property and block highways that it is entiredly possible that this guy had a fit of rage and was not thinking streaight much like the protester putting his life at risk on a freeway.... Slowed down ? Did you read what actually happened ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: I find it incredible that so many that want to "defund the police" and (presumably) have group hugs and chats with a social worker in emergencies suddenly want law and order now that their own got hurt. If this tragedy serves as a warning to the left, that if they are going to block highways at nights or other silly tricks, they may well get hurt well so much the better. Trump should extend his 10 year mandatory sentence for these thugs blocking the road. And to the authorities in Washington that let anarchy spread to the extent that many lives have been lost in the mayhem. Totally inexcusable. You talk about law & order, yet you condone murder ? Get a grip. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Has the driver been charged with murder ? Yes he has. Read the article. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: It is Manslaughter and nothing more. Either with Gross Negligence or without. Unless the DA has enough, with prior planning, premeditation or other evidence to charge murder then Manslaughter is what will be the true charge. He is being charged with murder. Educate yourself prior to posting please. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said: I find it incredible that so many that want to "defund the police" and (presumably) have group hugs and chats with a social worker in emergencies suddenly want law and order now that their own got hurt. If this tragedy serves as a warning to the left, that if they are going to block highways at nights or other silly tricks, they may well get hurt well so much the better. Trump should extend his 10 year mandatory sentence for these thugs blocking the road. And to the authorities in Washington that let anarchy spread to the extent that many lives have been lost in the mayhem. Totally inexcusable. Just because you still don't understand what "defunding" means,... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorG Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, neverere said: He is being charged with murder. Educate yourself prior to posting please. Can you show me where in the OP it says that please. I have just re-read it and it does not mention murder. Thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, neverere said: Yes he has. Read the article. Can you link the article please, the ones posted in the this thread thus far don't mention a murder charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, DoctorG said: Can you show me where in the OP it says that please. I have just re-read it and it does not mention murder. Thanks. It doesn't say it in the OP. I read it in a news article. Further reading shows that he actually hasn't been charged with murder yet. Pending the investigation I assume he will be. "Mr Kelete was charged with two counts of vehicular assault on Saturday and denied bail. Local officials were trying to determine the motive for the attack on the freeway, which has been shut for the last 19 days due to protests." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/black-lives-matter-protesters-injured-by-car-on-seattle-highway/12423502 Edited July 5, 2020 by neverere spelling. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverere Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Don Mega said: Can you link the article please, the ones posted in the this thread thus far don't mention a murder charge. See above. Edited July 5, 2020 by neverere error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, neverere said: See below. Yeah am not seeing much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorG Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, neverere said: It doesn't say it in the OP. I read it in a news article. I further reading shows that he actually hasn't been charged with murder yet. Pending the investigation I assume he will be. "Mr Kelete was charged with two counts of vehicular assault on Saturday and denied bail. Local officials were trying to determine the motive for the attack on the freeway, which has been shut for the last 19 days due to protests." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-05/black-lives-matter-protesters-injured-by-car-on-seattle-highway/12423502 Thanks for responding. As usual we will have to wait for the full story to evolve. Depending upon his motive he may well be charged with murder or vehicular homicide later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youlike Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Why is Trump allowing all this bs? Taking over Seattle and blocking highways for 19 days....is he too scared to arrest those protestors, one might get hurt during the arrests...maybe even a black person....owwwww.. Arrest them! What are you waiting for? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherwood Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 What was the protest by the victims about in the first place? Not free tampons again surely. The world has gone nuts. I miss the news for a year or two and things seem out of control. Now they are telling me China is about ready to start a war. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Youlike said: Why is Trump allowing all this bs? Taking over Seattle and blocking highways for 19 days....is he too scared to arrest those protestors, one might get hurt during the arrests...maybe even a black person....owwwww.. Arrest them! What are you waiting for? Understand your frustration. But Trump is playing this beautifully. The left want Trump to send in the army and end the mayhem in a few minutes, but he knows that would leave a body count and they would forever beat him with that. Especially if, (shock horror) a black person died. So, he let them set up a pure socialist state in the heart of Seattle. He let them OD on drugs and beat people not appearing to be lefties, he let them shoot each other, he let them set up racially segregated areas(apartheid?) and extort each other, and for chaos to take over this wonderful pure socialist state. Masterful, and point proven. He lets them block highways, and end up killing each other doing so. Again, Trump wins, the left loses. Seeing so many posts here supporting the car driver just proves it. Normal people are not impressed with the BLM rioters, no matter what spin MSM puts on it all. Election is in November, just a few months away. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TopDeadSenter Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, The Barmbeker said: Just because you still don't understand what "defunding" means,... "Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police. Because reform won’t happen." https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said: "Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police. Because reform won’t happen." https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html As you well know it is an extremist interpretation - it is not the true message or meaning of 'defund policing', nor will it ever be enacted in legislation. What does defund the police really mean - some examples... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-09/what-does-defund-the-police-actually-mean/12335028#:~:text="Defund the police" means taking,them into other public programs.&text=Supporters want those funds redirected,Education https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/19/what-does-defund-the-police-mean-and-does-it-have-merit/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CDefund%20the%20police%E2%80%9D%20means%20reallocating,That's%20it. Edited July 5, 2020 by simple1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, tlandtday said: Yeah the guy should have slowed down but it is undersandable that if protesters can get angry and beat people, burn down buildings, occupy property and block highways that it is entiredly possible that this guy had a fit of rage and was not thinking streaight much like the protester putting his life at risk on a freeway.... The freeway was closed, by police. The driver entered the wrong way and was driving the wrong way. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post berrec Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Well no idiots on highway, no incident to report; you can't put brains in statues! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgw Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 10 hours ago, nausea said: The driver was black, I hear, that's going to disrupt a few potential narratives; anyway, blocking an interstate in the middle of the night, no reflective gear or what have you - what could go wrong? well, the media are totally allowed to change his color into white or report that "he felt white" at the moment, if that makes for a better story. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shot Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Mayor Jenny is so 'woke' she's asleep. She has allowed the protests on I5 with support of the WSP, who works for gov. inslee. Two murders of black men in CHOP/CHAZ, and they don't have a suspect, even though there were witnesses. Something stinks here. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, tgw said: well, the media are totally allowed to change his color into white or report that "he felt white" at the moment, if that makes for a better story. And I'm sure you have evidence to share with us that this is something that the media does. I await it with interest. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shot said: Mayor Jenny is so 'woke' she's asleep. She has allowed the protests on I5 with support of the WSP, who works for gov. inslee. Two murders of black men in CHOP/CHAZ, and they don't have a suspect, even though there were witnesses. Something stinks here. Liberalism and politics are what stinks here. This <deleted> has been going on for weeks now and the politicians have several bodies stacked up in their quest to be “woke”. Antifa/BLM are currently rioting in Portland and federal police are using CS gas FINALLY 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnpetersen Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Liberalism and politics are what stinks here. This <deleted> has been going on for weeks now and the politicians have several bodies stacked up in their quest to be “woke”. Antifa/BLM are currently rioting in Portland and federal police are using CS gas FINALLY Sure Anitifa. So small in numbers that they're almost imaginary. This is the same kind of prejudice that the civil right movement experienced during the 50's and the 60's. Then it was communists who were blamed for inciting black americans. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BadBouy Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 "Summer of Love" continues! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 one has to be careful walking on a freeway at night, it's fraught with all kinds of dangers and especially if it's dark, and it's illegal. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: Sure Anitifa. So small in numbers that they're almost imaginary. This is the same kind of prejudice that the civil right movement experienced during the 50's and the 60's. Then it was communists who were blamed for inciting black americans. Yes, I just imagined all that burning and looting, sitting here in peaceful Thailand. And as a matter of historical fact the CPUSA did co-opt the civil rights movement starting in the 30s and right on basically to present, and to some degree the political right in America deserved it, but it has left a very difficult legacy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 hours ago, rooster59 said: At this time we're not suspecting drugs or alcohol as a factor in the crash." I bet the authorities in Seattle didn't bother to do tests on the middle of the superhighway at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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