webfact Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Two dead, eight wounded in South Carolina nightclub shooting By Rich McKay (Reuters) - Ten people were shot early on Sunday in a Greenville, South Carolina, nightclub in an outburst of suspected gang-related violence that killed two people and critically injured two others, police said. Police believe more than one shooter fled the chaotic scene at the Lavish Lounge club before deputies arrived. A very large crowd had packed into the establishment for "some type of Fourth of July concert," Greenville County Sheriff Hobart Lewis told an early morning press conference. Two sheriff's deputies were passing by the club shortly before 2 a.m. and heard shooting and saw a commotion, in a crowd of about 200 people, Lewis said. Ten people were shot early on Sunday after gunfire erupted at a nightclub in Greenville, South Carolina, killing two people and critically injuring two others, police said. Freddie Joyner has more. 2020-07-05T195022Z_1_LOV000M30MNVZ_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_USA-SHOOTING-SOUTH-CAROLINA.MP4 They called for backup and emergency services and went into the club, trying to evacuate people and see if it was still an active shooting, but apparently the shooter or shooters fled, Lewis said. Officials identified the deceased as Mykala Bell, 23, of Greenville and Clarence Johnson, 51, of Duncan. The Greenville News reported that Johnson was a security guard at the club. There was still no detailed information about the wounded or the suspects from officials in Greenville by midday Sunday. But Lewis told reporters that police were looking for "known gang members," and that the incident was "probably gang related." There is no active threat to the public, police said. Some of the wounded were taken to Greenville Memorial Hospital by people at the scene, others in ambulances, Lewis said. The Greenville News reported that there was a previous shooting early Saturday morning at a club next door to Lavish Lounge. Police were investigating a possible connection, the newspaper said. (Reporting by Rich McKay in Atlanta; Editing by Tom Brown) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-07-06 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post twocatsmac Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Apparently black lives don’t matter at this club. 3 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 Another mass shooting in the country that has the overall highest statistic in that area. Still they close their eyes to it and pretend to be the light of the universe. 12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starmocihc Posted July 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Another mass shooting in the country that has the overall highest statistic in that area. Still they close their eyes to it and pretend to be the light of the universe. They dare not address the problem of where the vast majority of gun violence occurs in the US. ???? 7 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Starmocihc said: They dare not address the problem of where the vast majority of gun violence occurs in the US. ???? I advice you to scale it down and take a look at the statistics of mass shootings in the US. Tell me you have the same statistics now?! No, you can´t, and we all know where you were going with your post above. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starmocihc Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: I advice you to scale it down and take a look at the statistics of mass shootings in the US. Tell me you have the same statistics now?! No, you can´t, and we all know where you were going with your post above. You're welcomed to their fbi stats, the same as anyone, have a look mate, or don't, doesn't change reality. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 15 minutes ago, Starmocihc said: You're welcomed to their fbi stats, the same as anyone, have a look mate, or don't, doesn't change reality. Ok, but if it is reality based on hard facts, why are you covering up your words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Starmocihc Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: Ok, but if it is reality based on hard facts, why are you covering up your words? You lost me there Mate. My replies have been quite frank. Sorry you're having trouble understanding clear and concise statements. Not sure what else to offer you on the matter. ???? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matzzon said: Ok, but if it is reality based on hard facts, why are you covering up your words? Most mass shootings and overall murder/homicide are committed by black people, feel free to look it up. Mostly gang violence. And the right has been constantly talking about this for years. Just look at the last month in Chicago if you want, but being in denial doesn't change anything. Quote A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence. There is no widely accepted definition of the term mass shooting. The United States' FBI defines a "mass murder" as "four or more murdered during an event with no "cooling-off period" between the murders." Based on this, it is generally agreed that a mass shooting is whenever four or more people are shot (injured or killed), not including the shooters. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, webfact said: Two dead, eight wounded in South Carolina nightclub shooting Although Im not real sure why the overlords thought this was something newsworthy, as a weekend in Chicago is typically more bloody than this ^ At Least 76 People Shot, 14 Of Them Killed, In 4th Of July Weekend Violence Since Late Friday https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/05/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Most mass shootings and overall murder/homicide are committed by black people I do not need to look that up, but you do! You are spreading big lies and you know it. Look up any year, with the possible miss of one or two from 2000 to 2019. There is almost no year where mass shootings are mostly done by black people. Do not bring the overall murder/homicide statistics in to this. We are not talking bout that in this thread. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Although Im not real sure why the overlords thought this was something newsworthy, as a weekend in Chicago is typically more bloody than this ^ At Least 76 People Shot, 14 Of Them Killed, In 4th Of July Weekend Violence Since Late Friday https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/05/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ You do not get it. You are still dragging the overall statistics into this discussion. Ok, I know. That´s the only thing you can try to save yourself with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 Just now, Matzzon said: Look up any year, with the possible miss of one or two from 2000 to 2019. There is almost no year where mass shootings are mostly done by black people. Do not bring the overall murder/homicide statistics in to this. We are not talking bout that in this thread. I can and I will on both because on both counts they apply. Mass shootings, as defined BY THE FBI, are mostly committed by black people. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: You do not get it. You are still dragging the overall statistics into this discussion. Ok, I know. That´s the only thing you can try to save yourself with. I would love to understand your malfunction, but I dont even think you know what your issue is. This happens ALL THE TIME. For example, from the article: Quote Among the incidents were a shooting that left a 7-year-old girl dead while she was visiting her grandmother for a 4th of July party in South Austin Saturday night, and two mass shootings – one of which left four people dead and four more wounded. https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/05/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bangkok Barry Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Most mass shootings and overall murder/homicide are committed by black people, feel free to look it up. Mostly gang violence. And the right has been constantly talking about this for years. Just look at the last month in Chicago if you want, but being in denial doesn't change anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting And in the UK the overwhelming percentage of knife crime is by blacks, yet they complain of racial profiling when it is often blacks who are randomly stopped and searched by police. Well, there's a reason for that, isn't there. The area I came from in London has not only a large black population now but a Facebook Group, and I asked on there for any black members to please explain why so much of the crime in the area, including knife attacks, are committed by blacks. Not one came forward to try and explain it. Heads in the sand, combined with PC. I'm sure that much of it is linked to so much single parentage among blacks, both in the US and UK. It's a culture thing - love them and leave then, I suppose. And then the kids don't have a strong father figure to grow up with. Edited July 6, 2020 by Bangkok Barry 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, Starmocihc said: They dare not address the problem of where the vast majority of gun violence occurs in the US. ???? Schools? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 32 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: I would love to understand your malfunction, but I dont even think you know what your issue is. This happens ALL THE TIME. For example, from the article: https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/07/05/at-least-73-people-shot-13-of-them-killed-in-4th-of-july-weekend-violence-since-late-friday/ Your malfunction is that you do not listen to facts. it´s simple. in mass shootings during the years 2000 to 2019 there is not most black people. you are malfunctioning by dragging the overall homicide murder statistics into the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 38 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: I can and I will on both because on both counts they apply. Mass shootings, as defined BY THE FBI, are mostly committed by black people. then i suggest you count all during the years and find out the real result, or stop reading white supremacy newspapers and websites. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 Just now, Matzzon said: Your malfunction is that you do not listen to facts. it´s simple. in mass shootings during the years 2000 to 2019 there is not most black people. you are malfunctioning by dragging the overall homicide murder statistics into the discussion. OK leave the murder statistics out of it if that pleases you (even though you're wrong on that front too) Mass Shooting, as defined by the FBI, is committed more by black people than any other race. These are facts. You cant deny it, because its impossible. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: then i suggest you count all during the years and find out the real result, or stop reading white supremacy newspapers and websites. See this is the problem with you guys. You deny facts, deny statistics, put your head in the sand and start screaming racism when you get trapped and its rather pathetic really. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpetersen Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said: Most mass shootings and overall murder/homicide are committed by black people, feel free to look it up. Mostly gang violence. And the right has been constantly talking about this for years. Just look at the last month in Chicago if you want, but being in denial doesn't change anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting I did feel free to look it up. The question is, what stopped you from doing the same? "White men have committed more mass shootings than any other group." "Newsweek's claim is literally accurate. But it's worth noting the imprecision of this data, and the percentage of mass shootings by white men is lower than their share of the male population, according to Mother Jones. We rate this Mostly True." https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2017/oct/06/newsweek/are-white-males-responsible-more-mass-shootings-an/ Edited July 6, 2020 by johnpetersen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: I did feel free to look it up. The question is, what stopped you from doing the same? I did, ive known about all this my whole life being im actually an American, and you just superficially browse for internet points. Tell me, why don't they include mass shootings perpetrated by black men stemming from gang violence? Happens multiple times a week, but much like everything else, they exclude that data set from these statistics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpetersen Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: I did, ive known about all this my whole life being im actually an American, and you just superficially browse for internet points. Tell me, why don't they include mass shootings perpetrated by black men stemming from gang violence? Happens multiple times a week, but much like everything else, they exclude that data set from these statistics. And we should take your word for that why? Please, come up with proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Thoughts and prayers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, johnpetersen said: And we should take your word for that why? Please, come up with proof. Happy that you're willing to accept that if they didn't include black mass shootings that result from gang violence, then it would be inaccurate data and intentionally wrong and would therefore mean that black people DO commit more mass murder. And its interesting that politifact went with "Mother Jones" statistics over others, like: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting Pick through there and get back to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted July 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mama Noodle said: See this is the problem with you guys. You deny facts, deny statistics, put your head in the sand and start screaming racism when you get trapped and its rather pathetic really. Detroit/St Louis/Baltimore are the murder capitals of the USA ....... no white folk involved. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Happy that you're willing to accept that if they didn't include black mass shootings that result from gang violence, then it would be inaccurate data and intentionally wrong and would therefore mean that black people DO commit more mass murder. And its interesting that politifact went with "Mother Jones" statistics over others, like: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting Pick through there and get back to me. Checked the first two incidents. First one no known suspects & no mention of colour. Second incident at least one of the killers is white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Noodle Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, simple1 said: Checked the first two incidents. First one no known suspects & no mention of colour. Second incident at least one of the killers is white. Mother of mercy the denial with you. You've got to be the most irrational denialist I think I have ever seen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnpetersen Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 28 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: Happy that you're willing to accept that if they didn't include black mass shootings that result from gang violence, then it would be inaccurate data and intentionally wrong and would therefore mean that black people DO commit more mass murder. And its interesting that politifact went with "Mother Jones" statistics over others, like: https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting Pick through there and get back to me. I'm not your research assistant. If you've got the data or a specific link to prove your point provide it. I did check out the site and I saw nothing that categorized mass shootings by race. Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Starmocihc said: They dare not address the problem of where the vast majority of gun violence occurs in the US. ???? you mean criminals that prefer to deal drugs & shoot people over nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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