VBF Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 Quote: For any new policy you buy or new trip booked covered by an existing annual multi-trip policy on or after 12 March 2020, we’ll still cover any medical claims due to coronavirus if you’re travelling to an area where there’s no Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) or Government advice against travel. https://www.postoffice.co.uk/travel-insurance?campaignid=ppc~ti~PO_Prospecting_Travel+Insurance+Brand_Core_EM~GOOGLE~ac~prosp~PO_Prospecting_Travel+Insurance_Brand_Core_EM~brand~post+office+travel+insurance&gclid=CjwKCAjwrvv3BRAJEiwAhwOdM_IHmRiXGaNVLy1i0BQsQ2paWXUY_P4zT2ktVKHz5_fgnMSWCOvt8BoCyL0QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds I have NOT: Checked limits (IE WILL IT COVER YOU FOR THE $100,000 THE THAI GOVERNMENT REQUIRES?) Checked whether it applies only to UK residents Checked the "small print" If anyone investigates this further and finds more details PLEASE POST YOUR FINDINGS HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steve187 Posted July 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) quote attached for a 28 day trip to Thailand in August/september for a 65 year old with no medical conditions edit normal resident of UK for 6months, not spent more than 6 months abroad in the last year, UK doctor etc. apply Edited July 7, 2020 by steve187 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 4 hours ago, steve187 said: quote attached for a 28 day trip to Thailand in August/september for a 65 year old with no medical conditions edit normal resident of UK for 6months, not spent more than 6 months abroad in the last year, UK doctor etc. apply you must have COVID coverage or you won't get into Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) UPDATE to my OP regarding the Post Office Insurance: From the above i infer that ALL medical expenses would be covered - I sat on the phone for 40 minutes to confirm that but they're too busy to answer ???? Also https://www.postoffice.co.uk/travel-insurance-faqs may be useful NOTE - you DO have to be UK-resident to apply. Edited July 7, 2020 by VBF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Now that the FCO travel advisory has been lifted for Thailand this looks like a good find. A key factor would be the availability of a Certificate of Insurance which states the insured is covered for treatment of conditions related to Covid-19 up to (or over) US$100,000. Edited July 7, 2020 by richard_smith237 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 hours ago, bolt said: you must have COVID coverage or you won't get into Thailand. look at op 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: Now that the FCO travel advisory has been lifted for Thailand this looks like a good find. A key factor would be the availability of a Certificate of Insurance which states the insured is covered for treatment of conditions related to Covid-19 up to (or over) US$100,000. From my #4 it appears that it's unlimited - as I said, when I can confirm with them, I shall. If anyone else manages to get through and ask PO, or decides to email please do update this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairynuff Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 If you’re a retiree living in Thailand, non UK resident, the claim part of this wouldn’t work. It might however get you back into Thailand if that’s the real reason you want it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Now that the FCO travel advisory has been lifted for Thailand this looks like a good find. A key factor would be the availability of a Certificate of Insurance which states the insured is covered for treatment of conditions related to Covid-19 up to (or over) US$100,000. Do you have a link to clarify FCO travel advisory has been lifted for travel to Thailand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) My wife is on extension of stay she is stuck in the UK due to the virus as she went home to see our daughters new born before all hell let loose her BA July flight was cancelled as was her May and June flight as for the new requirements by the Thai government good luck on that its nigh on impossible to get hold of $100,000 insurance stipulating Corona 19 cover as well as the verification of fit to fly certificate that can’t be older than 72 hours before your departure after weeks of trying she hasn’t managed to get either. Edited July 8, 2020 by crazykopite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said: Do you have a link to clarify FCO travel advisory has been lifted for travel to Thailand ? How incredible that you cannot find something that prominent, yet can post here on a forum! As it's an important issue, I'll do your 1-second Google search for you https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand You're welcome???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, crazykopite said: My wife is on extension of stay she is stuck in the UK due to the virus as she went home to see our daughters new born before all hell let loose her BA July flight was cancelled as was her May and June flight as for the new requirements by the Thai government good luck on that its nigh on impossible to get hold of $100,000 insurance stipulating Corona 19 cover as well as the verification of fit to fly certificate that can’t be older than 72 hours before your departure after weeks of trying she hasn’t managed to get either. <snipped image for clarity> You may find that as she currently has a UK address, she could get this PO insurance. She may have to be "economical with the truth" when applying.???? As @Fairynuff said above, a claim would probably fail, but it might satisfy the Thai authorities for entry which is all you need. And, a thought occurs.....if she already had insurance for her trip TO the UK, that MIGHT still be valid if it was taken out in time - worth a check? Sadly neither of my comments help you with the other requirements. Edited July 8, 2020 by VBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, VBF said: How incredible that you cannot find something that prominent, yet can post here on a forum! As it's an important issue, I'll do your 1-second Google search for you https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand You're welcome???? Of recent the U.K. government were advising against all international travel except for business, I never read about the announcement that they had changed there policy more so if you return from Thailand to the U.K. you are advised to self quarantine for 14 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Irrespective if you can get insurance it looks like the Thai Government are not going to make many concessions for arriving tourists. I was hoping to get back before the 4th of September when my partners Tourist Visa expires. https://www.pattayamail.com/thailandnews/thailand-sees-long-delay-for-travel-bubble-plandue-to-second-wave-fear-306794 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post treetops Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 Several UK insurance companies offering Covid cover now. This is moneysavingexpert.com's best buy table: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, treetops said: Several UK insurance companies offering Covid cover now. This is moneysavingexpert.com's best buy table: Thing to check is whether the medical is for at least $100,000 - if not it's not going to work for Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treetops Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, VBF said: Thing to check is whether the medical is for at least $100,000 - if not it's not going to work for Thailand To get in the table they have to meet certain criteria, one of which is medical cover of £2,000,000 GBP, so well more than required for Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Post replaced: 7 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said: Of recent the U.K. government were advising against all international travel except for business, I never read about the announcement that they had changed there policy more so if you return from Thailand to the U.K. you are advised to self quarantine for 14 days. Then sign up for automatic email alerts at: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand Edited July 8, 2020 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 9:46 PM, Enoon said: Then sign up for automatic email alerts at: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/thailand Yes - did that back in March while still in Thailand and deciding whether to "bail". It was probably from one of those emails that I found out about the (then) FCO advice against all essential travel, which led to my buying a new flight and subsequently claiming for it on insurance. I say "probably" because i think it's my responsibility to keep abreast of the situation - this email makes it easier, Unfortunately, the policy I have now doesn't cover Covid now it's a known event hence exploring new ones and the creation of THIS thread. TBH, there's no point in doing anything unless and until we're officially able to travel to Thailand; i'm just looking to the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VBF Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) A DEVELOPMENT! It appears that the Nationwide FlexPlus insurance that I currently hold is now better than the Post Office one I showed in my OP. Nationwide WERE refusing all new trips - those booked after 18th March. Since the FCO removed its "do not travel" advice, the Nationwide is now saying: https://www.nationwide.co.uk/support/travel/important-travel-information#xtab:twistyitem-if-i-book-a-trip-now-will-i-be-covered-for-coronavirus Scroll down to Questions you might have Whilst the PO one only covers medical claims, the NW policy now includes cover for Medical and Curtailment thus: And also…… I'm rather glad I didn't cancel it now! ???? NOTE: You must have a Nationwide FlexPlus account to get this insurance - the account attracts a £13 / month fee but there are a couple of other benefits. https://www.nationwide.co.uk/products/current-accounts/flexplus/features-and-benefits Note that the banner on this page is incorrect where it says "If you open a new FlexPlus account, you will not be covered for Coronavirus related travel claims." I didn't understand that as it contradicts what I've posted above - NW assure me that the banner is out of date and needs to be changed - in fact they thanked me for alerting them to it! Edited July 11, 2020 by VBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) On 7/7/2020 at 6:24 PM, VBF said: From the above i infer that ALL medical expenses would be covered - I sat on the phone for 40 minutes to confirm that but they're too busy to answer ???? Also https://www.postoffice.co.uk/travel-insurance-faqs may be useful NOTE - you DO have to be UK-resident to apply. There is a contentious issue here. If you have a mild or even completely asymptomatic case of COVID in Thailand then it is still going to require an expensive and possibly long hospital stay until you test negative - that could take a month. This is going to be the big problem here because in any other country they tell you to stay at home and don't mix with other people and come back to them if you get really ill. They're locking people away in hospitals until they 'recover' - and that's expensive. Insurance companies aren't going to pay for that unless you're really and actually ill. The whole scheme is doomed to complete and utter failure. Edited September 3, 2020 by ukrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, ukrules said: There is a contentious issue here. If you have a mild or even completely asymptomatic case of COVID in Thailand then it is still going to require an expensive and possibly long hospital stay until you test negative - that could take a month. This is going to be the big problem here because in any other country they tell you to stay at home and don't mix with other people and come back to them if you get really ill. They're locking people away in hospitals until they 'recover' - and that's expensive. Insurance companies aren't going to pay for that unless you're really and actually ill. The whole scheme is doomed to complete and utter failure. I disagree. The insurance wording covers that. Do please examine the links I've posted in #4 and #21. Bear in mind that in the scenario you've outlined, one would have been deemed to have contracted CV whilst travelling so all expenses should be covered. In any event, I would / will(?) get that in writing from Nationwide (my chosen policy) before travelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VBF said: I disagree. The insurance wording covers that. Do please examine the links I've posted in #4 and #21. Bear in mind that in the scenario you've outlined, one would have been deemed to have contracted CV whilst travelling so all expenses should be covered. In any event, I would / will(?) get that in writing from Nationwide (my chosen policy) before travelling. Emergency treatment is covered based on what I read, I'm not reading the whole policies. What part of not being ill at all but testing positive (as the vast majority of people do) and then 'recovering' is an emergency which the insurance company will gladly hand over what might be 10 to 20 thousand pounds to keep you locked up in an isolation hospital for a month until you test negative? Everyone goes to hospital in Thailand if they have COVID, it's not like almost every other country in the world because they never did move on from the initial stages of infection here, it's still regarded as the same way the UK would treat COVID back in February. If you tested positive back in the UK in February you were sent to a special isolation hospital - they're still doing that here. Edited September 3, 2020 by ukrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, ukrules said: Emergency treatment is covered based on what I read, I'm not reading the whole policies. What part of not being ill at all but testing positive (as the vast majority of people do) and then 'recovering' is an emergency which the insurance company will gladly hand over what might be 10 to 20 thousand pounds to keep you locked up in an isolation hospital for a month until you test negative? Everyone goes to hospital in Thailand if they have COVID, it's not like almost every other country in the world because they never did move on from the initial stages of infection here, it's still regarded as the same way the UK would treat COVID back in February. If you tested positive back in the UK in February you were sent to a special isolation hospital - they're still doing that here. I take your point but I still think that any illness or effects therefrom suffered when travelling is covered. I did read the whole policy and no, I'm not reading it again now either! BUT, I also said above "In any event, I would / will(?) get that in writing from Nationwide (my chosen policy) before travelling. " Presently it's moot, as we tourists ain't getting into Thailand, but by the time we can, you can bet that rules will have changed.....several times probably! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo1968 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, VBF said: I take your point but I still think that any illness or effects therefrom suffered when travelling is covered. I did read the whole policy and no, I'm not reading it again now either! BUT, I also said above "In any event, I would / will(?) get that in writing from Nationwide (my chosen policy) before travelling. " Presently it's moot, as we tourists ain't getting into Thailand, but by the time we can, you can bet that rules will have changed.....several times probably! Bit of a scam in some respects they know you have Health Insurance so a nice little earner, when did the last person on a repatriation flight who was hospitalised die, I don’t remember any ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBF Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jumbo1968 said: Bit of a scam in some respects they know you have Health Insurance so a nice little earner, when did the last person on a repatriation flight who was hospitalised die, I don’t remember any ? Well it's not a scam as such - or at least only against the terminally lazy / stupid! People who have insurance will just ignore it, and show their own insurance in its place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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