webfact Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Govt defends allocation for ordnance in national budget as 'necessary' By The Nation The government has justified the proposed expenditure on ordnance in the national budget, after the opposition criticised the allocation saying it should be utilised for economic purposes. Government Spokesperson Narumon Pinyosinwat said on July 8 that it was necessary for the Defence Ministry to spend on ordnance in fiscal 2021 and Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha had already explained the reason. The Bureau of the Budget also had examined the proposed expenditure and saw that it was line with the regulation of the national budget to spend on ordnance. Thailand must improve its weaponry since this sector was not funded in the past few years, resulting in 80 per cent of weaponry becoming old, while the southern insurgency still requires new weapons, she said. Narumon also said that the premier would make sure that the budget would benefit the country and its citizens, and the government would use the Bt1-trillion loan that was approved by the House to revive the economy. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30390945 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-07-08 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Let's spend money on ordnance, or continuing to keep Covid-19 at bay, with the threat of a second trickle, allegedly, on it's way. OK, ordnance it is ! Edited July 8, 2020 by Thaiwrath 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, webfact said: The government has justified the proposed expenditure on ordnance in the national budget, Of course they have, got to have plenty on hand in case the peasants start to revolt. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, colinneil said: Of course they have, got to have plenty on hand in case the peasants start to revolt. And I'm sure SOME of it WILL get spent on ordinance! Edited July 8, 2020 by PatOngo 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, webfact said: 80 per cent of weaponry becoming old, while the southern insurgency still requires new weapons, she said. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paiman Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 A military government would spend preferably for the military. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Bit difficult to pass judgement without knowing how this ordnance expenditure affects the defence budget as a percentage of GDP; the latest figure I could find for the overall defence budget was 1.4% (https://thediplomat.com/2019/09/what-does-thailands-new-defense-budget-say-about-its-future-military-outlook/) which appears quite modest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 You have to have bullets, hand grenades and cannon shells to help train the troops or defend the country against foreign invaders...555! Foreign invaders, I'd like to see that! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted July 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2020 Of course they need to spend money on ordnance, they seem to lose it on a regular basis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Narumon also said that the premier would make sure that the budget would benefit the country and its citizens. By eating lead presumably ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Paiman said: A military government would spend preferably for the military. Personally, I am not a supporter of spending mega amounts of money on ordnance, but please note:- "Thailand has contributed troops to United Nations peacekeeping efforts in places such as Darfur, Haiti and Timor-Leste. ... When preparing troops for deployment, the center ensures that troops deployed to U.N. peacekeeping operations are selected, generated, equipped and trained according to U.N. standards.Apr 22, 2019" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, nausea said: the latest figure I could find and if it is even close to the actual funds spent, and if it is even spent on ordnance, and if they even had an honest bone in their bodies ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Well, if the photo is current, then the rifles those troops are carrying are Vietnam-era. Probably worn-out after 50-years of abuse by farm boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 17 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand must improve its weaponry since this sector was not funded in the past few years, resulting in 80 per cent of weaponry becoming old, while the southern insurgency still requires new weapons, she said. Complete BS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 19 hours ago, Paiman said: A military government would spend preferably for the military. It stands to reason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Burma Bill said: Personally, I am not a supporter of spending mega amounts of money on ordnance, but please note:- "Thailand has contributed troops to United Nations peacekeeping efforts in places such as Darfur, Haiti and Timor-Leste. ... When preparing troops for deployment, the center ensures that troops deployed to U.N. peacekeeping operations are selected, generated, equipped and trained according to U.N. standards.Apr 22, 2019" And the UN pays, quite generously, for those troops. One of the problems with these peacekeeping forces is that it is sometimes the case that all the funds provided by the UN are not always used for that purpose. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Iron Tongue said: Well, if the photo is current, then the rifles those troops are carrying are Vietnam-era. Probably worn-out after 50-years of abuse by farm boys. What do you think of their helmets, they do not look like those currently issued with camo fabric cover? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 If the Thai Military are really short of weaponry, maybe its time to round up all the loose canons that many of the public seem to have lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Iron Tongue said: Well, if the photo is current, then the rifles those troops are carrying are Vietnam-era. Probably worn-out after 50-years of abuse by farm boys. 2 hours ago, ratcatcher said: What do you think of their helmets, they do not look like those currently issued with camo fabric cover? The rifles - M16s, were a design introduced during the Vietnam war, however they remained in production for many years afterwards, and so they may well not be that old. Age is not a problem as such, if the weapon has been properly maintained (!) and of course has had relatively few rounds fired through it. Many units these days seem to be equipped with the "Tavor" - Israeli "bullpup" design with an optical sight. They may have retained M16s for ceremonial use. The helmets look like varnished up inner liners for the old US pattern steel helmet - again retained by those armies who, for unaccountable reasons, like wearing tin hats on ceremonial parades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 4:59 PM, Dap said: and if it is even close to the actual funds spent, and if it is even spent on ordnance, and if they even had an honest bone in their bodies ... Whatever, but for a country run by generals 1.4% is pretty modest. I was surprised, I must admit. Even more surprising as a lot of this, presumably, goes into people's pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 1:40 PM, Paiman said: A military government would spend preferably for the military. Who's going to fire these guns? Certainly not the bulk of the army who are all generals. They can't see they've already been invaded and annexed already by the country who gave the world Covid 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Prudence demands they guard against a coup or unexpected outside threat. Antarctica mentioned wherever that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 hours ago, nausea said: Whatever, but for a country run by generals 1.4% is pretty modest. I was surprised, I must admit. Even more surprising as a lot of this, presumably, goes into people's pockets. Gotta remember this pittance comes after already buying the jets, armored personnel carriers, tanks, helicopters and of course the navy's new ships AND a few submarines. At this stage of their game, a lower profile is really quite necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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