What will happen to foreigners with expired visas after July 31?

[AndrewMciver]

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

The world has changed in the last 6 months, countries are protecting their own citizens first and foremost. For the time being globalization is over and insular policies prevail.

 

He's still a British Citizen. Living one of the most socialist states in the world - free health care, free social housing if you get lost, partially subsidised dental care, free education, and if you don't have a job you get some free social payouts. 

 

"Oh poor me, i won't get any help, i'll be on the streets'. 

 

Excuses and utter nonsense. 

[tribalfusion001]

1 minute ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

He's still a British Citizen. Living one of the most socialist states in the world - free health care, free social housing if you get lost, partially subsidised dental care, free education, and if you don't have a job you get some free social payouts. 

 

"Oh poor me, i won't get any help, i'll be on the streets'. 

 

Excuses and utter nonsense. 

Yes it's not the Thai governments concern if someone has a wife and kids in Thailand and you visit on a tourist visa.

[AndrewMciver]

2 minutes ago, bestie said:

????

 

 

How is he funding his Thai wife and kid? He still doesn't disclose. One minute he says he will be homeless and then he is flying internationally, and supporting a family. With what funds?

 

One bedroom appartments in the UK. Never asked for a reference ever.  Simple request is usually a months rent in advance. The amnesty of no evictions is also set to expire, if it hasn't already. 

Edited July 9, 2020 by AndrewMciver

[Don Mega]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

That depends on your perspective. I’m currently stranded in the UK unable to travel back to Thailand. 

 

 

 

 

Are you Thai not allowed to return to Thailand ?.

 

If not then you aint stranded.

 

[Don Mega]

44 minutes ago, domgaf said:

It's not always as simple as that. I'm a British citizen, but I haven't lived there for more than 16 years. Instead, I have been resident in another country for work. I have no home in the UK, so repatriation would render me homeless. My country of residence/work has not yet opened its borders to non-citizens. So, when I arrived in Thailand on a 30 day stamp in March, I had expected to leave before April. Now, I am at a loss as to what to do if the Thai immigration doesn't extend the amnesty or offer extensions that can be paid for.

So what your saying is, your home country is allowing you entry should you chose to.

 

Thanks, that rules out the UK denying entry to its citizens, now to find out which ones are.

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, mike787 said:

Pay, black listed, or kicked out.  

Hopefully. Don't need freeloaders here. If they ain't spending money out they go. 

[american2]

I would think the Thai Government should be compassionent.  Why would they not grant furthur amnesty to those in Thailand.  Are they a drain on the economy or the Thai citizens?  Sending them back to their own countries would likely put them at extreme risk of contracting the Covid 19 virus.  Until there is a vaccine the amnesty should continue.  This would not currently benefit me as I have a Type O visa, epiration 2021.

[herfiehandbag]

27 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

When you return to the UK to update your passport where do you stay ? 

It is entirely possible to renew your Passport whilst remaining in Thailand.

[fredwiggy]

22 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

Utter nonsense. 

 

You aren't renting a castle in Windsor. Get yourself a small home till you land on your feet. No references are needed for the vast majority of small homes. The biggest request would be to pay a month's rent in advance. 

 

Again, more excuses as to why you can't return. You can return. No excuses. Get yourself back. 

 

In the unlikely even you don't find any property (which is not going to happen), get yourself to the local council to provide you with social housing. 

 

And you still haven't disclosed what funds you are using whilst in Thailand?

I'm wondering why you are taking another's life so seriously. Why do some want others out of Thailand? It isn't safe in the UK now, nor many other countries to go back to. Why are you asking him what funds he's living on? That's his business and not anyone else's. It sounds like you are jealous that he's here with his family.

[Pravda]

34 minutes ago, AndrewMciver said:

 

 

How is he funding his Thai wife and kid? He still doesn't disclose.

 

Who the hell made you HM revenue and customs officer on Thai Visa?

[KimSamui]

I did my 90 day online report a few days early. 

The application was still pending after a week (No reply & the App was not working) so I went to immigration with a copy of the Online TM47 Receipt on Tuesday (Special Holiday), and then again yesterday where they processed it 

at the original date a week ago, so I got less than 90 days.

The whole process at Blueport HH took 20 minutes as there were very few people there.

What a nonsense these reports are. Unnecessary stress, travel and expense.

FED UP WITH EVERYTHING

[blueontour]

I'm sure they'll do the right thing  as they have done so far. I had many flights cancelled, and was 3 days over when amnesty started. I finally left yesterday (3.5 months over) and was only charged 3 days.

 

[mike787]

no visa, plan to leave Thailand.  NO free lunch here.

[smedly]

46 minutes ago, american2 said:

I would think the Thai Government should be compassionent.  Why would they not grant furthur amnesty to those in Thailand.  Are they a drain on the economy or the Thai citizens

it would completely empty the few pubs that opened in pattaya that are currently seeing some level of business - yes there are a handful seeing good numbers

[pops1]

2 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

im not stranded but have a non O marriage until Jan 2021. All i needed to do was a stupid border run. Hope their is a way around that....

Me too brother. I feel your pain. I am losing my <deleted> reading through all the non information. Just extend the amnesty 3 months to give time for all this to flush through the system <deleted>. Easy done and will save a lot of headaches in the long run. 

[Neeranam]

2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Very few people are 100% stranded.

And if they are, it's probably their own doing. They should have travelled befits the restrictions. 

[Sambotte]

Good article.

But situation is a total non-sense.

To simply extend amnesty is very easy, and there is ZERO problem possible.

Nothing new with tracking farangs, we are tracked already.

Should have been annonced last month. Not nice to wait like that for NO REASON.

 

Beside that, here we have too many poster who are just disgusting pretending there is no problem to travel. Or really that ignorants ?

 

[micmichd]

1 hour ago, AndrewMciver said:

So you have funds to support a Thai family. What is the source of these funds? You also have funds to commute between countries. 

 

Why would you end up homeless if you returned to the UK, when you clearly have some funds. 

 

If you have to return to the UK, then i'm sure your Thai family will have to look after themselves till you sort yourself out. 

 

Don't be looking for excuses, especially when they make no sense. The UK, is one of the most socialist states in the world. If you have a national insurance number (which i'm sure you do if you are travelling the world), then the state will provide you with accomodation. If that takes a little time, use your funds to get yourself some temporary accomodation. You won't be homeless. 

Maybe he disgusts the UK as much as I disgust Germany. 

[leeedwards]

1 hour ago, AndrewMciver said:

 Of course they are. Europeans and Americans most definately. Even those living in Australia / New Zealand can get on repatriation flights. 

 

This loop hole is no different to the visa run to a neighbouring country, to stay there for a long indefinate period. 

 

If you want to stay long term, get the proper visa. 

We have proper visas, 1 Year multiple non o marriage, requiring us to leave and return every 90 days. It’s not rocket science, so why don’t some of u understand that we can’t go out and come back. For the last 9 years it has proven problem free for me. I’m sorry I’m no Nostradamus and was unable to predict this unfortunate turn of events. The lack of empathy and understanding from some people is frankly shocking. 

[sandyf]

3 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Cool story, but does not answer my question.

 

The article says people have not been able to go home due to closed home borders, which countries have not allowed its citizens to return ?

None, that have put their signature on the international agreement on the "right of return".

There is a huge difference between "not allowed" and measures or circumstances that may make it difficult to return.

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

Thanks, that rules out the UK denying entry to its citizens, now to find out which ones are.

No countries deny entry to its own citizens even if you don't have a passport, they can't. 

[SiSePuede419]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

But stranded foreigners...

 

No such thing.  Nobody was left without the means to go elsewhere.

 

These "stranded" foreigners intentionally chose to stay here.  If they ignored the severity of the Pandemic, then they're dumb.  This pandemic is going to last year's and years.

 

Antibodies only last a few months.  You may have to get a vaccine every month or two.

 

Things aren't going back to normal.

 

And it shouldn't.

 

Normal did not protect us economically or biologically.

 

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[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, AndrewMciver said:

And you still haven't disclosed what funds you are using whilst in Thailand?

Andrew, why are you giving grown men unsolicited life advice? It's relentless with you.

[LukKrueng]

3 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Cool story, but does not answer my question.

 

The article says people have not been able to go home due to closed home borders, which countries have not allowed its citizens to return ?

None. There was a period of time that many countries such as Singapore, HK, Japan and other didn't allow transit passengers, so yes, going back to places with no direct flights would be impossible. Most countries eased the restrictions and now allow transit so it is possible to fly nearly everywhere now. Most "stranded" people here are those that chose to rely on border runs instead of getting a long term permit to stay

[sandyf]

2 hours ago, domgaf said:

It's not always as simple as that. I'm a British citizen, but I haven't lived there for more than 16 years. Instead, I have been resident in another country for work. I have no home in the UK, so repatriation would render me homeless. My country of residence/work has not yet opened its borders to non-citizens. So, when I arrived in Thailand on a 30 day stamp in March, I had expected to leave before April. Now, I am at a loss as to what to do if the Thai immigration doesn't extend the amnesty or offer extensions that can be paid for.

Don't you think it was a rash decision to come to Thailand in March. I went down to Malaysia on 5th Feb and precautions against the virus were well established.

There is nothing stopping you travelling to the UK and waiting for better weather, obstacles are of your own choosing.

The Thai government is under no obligation to make things easy for you, or any other foreigner. We should be thankful they are not as anti foreigner as some other governments, you could be in a detention camp awaiting deportation.

Edited July 9, 2020 by sandyf

[Jaxxper]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Do you think people are using this as an excuse to stay in Thailand?

 

 

Do bears poo in the woods ? I would say a large number are milking the situation. Just my opinion you understand.

[thonglorjimmy]

50 minutes ago, KimSamui said:

I did my 90 day online report a few days early. 

The application was still pending after a week (No reply & the App was not working) so I went to immigration with a copy of the Online TM47 Receipt on Tuesday (Special Holiday), and then again yesterday where they processed it 

at the original date a week ago, so I got less than 90 days.

The whole process at Blueport HH took 20 minutes as there were very few people there.

What a nonsense these reports are. Unnecessary stress, travel and expense.

FED UP WITH EVERYTHING

My 90 day report was due on 29 June, obviously aware of the amnesty so was in no rush.
I thought Immigration would be busy at the end of the month so I attempted to do the report via the app, to no avail.
We needed to go to BluPort yesterday so I took my passport on the offchance that they wouldn't be busy, they weren't.
The very pleasant IO processed my report very quickly, I was in and out of the office in less than five minutes, and there was a guy called before me.
The next report is marked as 90 days from yesterday, no no days lost.
The IO thought they would be very busy at the end of the month, she added that whilst they've received no guidance yet, her view is that there would be no further extension, she stressed that was only her opinion.
I do think that the whole 90 day report is an utter waste of time, serving no meaningful purpose whatsoever, I'm sure that IO's time could be better used. 

[zoza]

do not want to complicate things but where do us non imm O (married to Thai) visa holders stand?

i was due to do a 90 day report in May, and read on here they had  been put on hold ? and we do not need to report ? until further notice,

i have since done a TM30 in June but i am thinking of heading to Jomtien in case they decide to make an issue out of this? as they do like to keep us on our toes. any body know where we stand.

[wazzupnow]

i think as long as "the BOSS" does not allow tourists, we will just get another amnesty

any way you will not get any defenitives before 30 july as usual

[5633572526]

Was at CW in bkk yesterday helping a friend who had just moved up from Phuket and had never been before, plus he bought coffee and lunch so win for me. I decided to do my 90 day report while there and was told by the nice IO at the counter that it was good I did it before the 13th as this and other services are being moved to impact arena here after that. That doesn’t sound good for extending the amnesty but at least they are planning ahead for large crowds. no I didn’t ask about which other services as I don’t need to extend until May of next year.