drbeach Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Beanfarmer05 said: It's a shame as YouTube vloggers recent videos show Bangkok and pattaya and other places getting back to some sort of normality. I've never been to Thailand i the rainy season so i wouldnt be travelling now,but i would be looking to book oct/Nov and feb/March trips now. Just cant risk making those bookings so soon with such a changing fluid situation both in the west and in south east asia Like I've been telling everyone - DO NOT make any advance bookings until the borders have already re-opened and normal flight schedules have been restored, whenever that is. Be like me and make last minute bookings. This is possibly the worst time in history to be making advance plans. Next year things might be more or less back to normal. Just wait until it happens. Be patient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, The Barmbeker said: Working in tourism, I can tell you first hand, that we have a bunch of requests for trips to Thailand from October onwards and with increasing numbers, over the coming months! There is a potential- but if the Thai- government has no intend on AT LEAST signalling a possible opening from October onwards, this bubble will burst! Mass tourism is finished for this year mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Mass tourism is finished for this year mate. Who was talking about mass- tourism! I said, we have a bunch of bookings! And I guess, there would be some more, if the signal was towards opening the country for high and peak season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 I can see that 1.5 million is possible with organised trips from China...if the CCP decide to let people go on O/S trips. What better way to share Wuhan China virus 2, China pig virus and that old favourite from way back, bubonic plague. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said: Who was talking about mass- tourism! I said, we have a bunch of bookings! And I guess, there would be some more, if the signal was towards opening the country for high and peak season! A bunch of bookings that will need to be cancelled. Or. Turned away at imm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerox Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, The Barmbeker said: Working in tourism, I can tell you first hand, that we have a bunch of requests for trips to Thailand from October onwards and with increasing numbers, over the coming months! There is a potential- but if the Thai- government has no intend on AT LEAST signalling a possible opening from October onwards, this bubble will burst! You have to focus on Thai tourists. Borders will not open. Foreigners will not be allowed. That is what we all have to accept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kelsall Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Mass tourism is finished for this year mate. and next. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelsall Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Free advice to tourism employees worldwide: "Learn to code." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Fairy tales can come true, they can happen to you...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 14 hours ago, cerox said: You have to focus on Thai tourists. Borders will not open. Foreigners will not be allowed. That is what we all have to accept. Thai tourists will not feed the millions workin in tourism! If the borders stay closed, this coubntry will see a crisis like never before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barmbeker Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Sujo said: A bunch of bookings that will need to be cancelled. Or. Turned away at imm. I fear you arer right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Some offensive posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GinBoy2 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) All of these numbers are pure speculation. The airlines are a big factor in this. I work for an airline, and international routes are still in total flux, between travel restrictions, quarantines and the general lack of demand. The schedules are changing on an almost weekly basis, so if you book a ticket, I wouldn't bet my next pay check that the flight will actually operate. While I'm seeing a rise in passenger numbers on domestic routes, it's still a fraction of what it should be at this time of year. So I'm highly skeptical that if folks are still not willing to get on a plane for a couple of hours on a domestic flight, that someone is going to get on a 10+ hour flight to Thailand. So that in my mind at least rules out most tourism from Europe or the Americas. On top of that after all the economic devastation this has caused to family finances, I just don't see a vacation to Thailand being high on peoples 'to do' list this year, and maybe next Edited July 15, 2020 by GinBoy2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) On 7/11/2020 at 6:51 PM, The Barmbeker said: Who was talking about mass- tourism! I said, we have a bunch of bookings! And I guess, there would be some more, if the signal was towards opening the country for high and peak season! How many of them paid up front? Or even paid a non-returnable deposit? Edited July 15, 2020 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acrylic Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 9:45 AM, The Barmbeker said: Thai tourists will not feed the millions workin in tourism! If the borders stay closed, this coubntry will see a crisis like never before! Hopefully it can become a good lesson for Thai government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mung Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 Isn't going to happen. The country locks down an entire region because of 1 confirmed case. The population of Thailand think allowing 1 confirmed case is a terrible thing.. It is IMPOSSIBLE to have anybody coming in and to gain no new cases. Thailand needs to wake up and pull their socks up while they're at it. How many more businesses have to go under, or how many more suicides need to take place? More people die on Thailands roads per day than COVID-19 ever has taken. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AndrewMciver Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mung said: Isn't going to happen. The country locks down an entire region because of 1 confirmed case. The population of Thailand think allowing 1 confirmed case is a terrible thing.. It is IMPOSSIBLE to have anybody coming in and to gain no new cases. Thailand needs to wake up and pull their socks up while they're at it. How many more businesses have to go under, or how many more suicides need to take place? More people die on Thailands roads per day than COVID-19 ever has taken. They aren't ready to open up. Mentally the reaction to this one case has been astonishing. Don't blame them, but the economic damage will be tough. Hopefully the Chinese will bail them out, as they are going to need it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 The second wave kicking in hard. A full re-lock down is the right approach ???????????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 hours ago, GinBoy2 said: All of these numbers are pure speculation. The airlines are a big factor in this. I work for an airline, and international routes are still in total flux, between travel restrictions, quarantines and the general lack of demand. The schedules are changing on an almost weekly basis, so if you book a ticket, I wouldn't bet my next pay check that the flight will actually operate. While I'm seeing a rise in passenger numbers on domestic routes, it's still a fraction of what it should be at this time of year. So I'm highly skeptical that if folks are still not willing to get on a plane for a couple of hours on a domestic flight, that someone is going to get on a 10+ hour flight to Thailand. So that in my mind at least rules out most tourism from Europe or the Americas. On top of that after all the economic devastation this has caused to family finances, I just don't see a vacation to Thailand being high on peoples 'to do' list this year, and maybe next obviously you know more than me but i know for a fact once the uk government said we could fly to most of europe there was a massive surge in bookings. so i think your wrong and there will be still plenty of people willing to fly. i for one would be quite happy to fly and a lot of people are like me and not gonna live in fear for the rest of their lives. but whether thailand are gonna open up is another thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GinBoy2 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, paulikens said: obviously you know more than me but i know for a fact once the uk government said we could fly to most of europe there was a massive surge in bookings. so i think your wrong and there will be still plenty of people willing to fly. i for one would be quite happy to fly and a lot of people are like me and not gonna live in fear for the rest of their lives. but whether thailand are gonna open up is another thing. It all depends on your definition of 'surge'. Of course people still want to travel, but it depends on what that surge looks like. Rule of thumb is that an airline needs a load factor of 85%+ or more to either break even or make a profit on any given flight. Thats why even though airlines have kept flying, they slashed the number of flights and parked up thousands of aircraft across the world to try to fill the remaining flights. For example at my station this month we should have had 8 daily flights just to Denver alone. Turns out we have two. Now those two are going out pretty full, so there is an illusion of a 'surge' and while it's good news it's a long way off where it should be. In general airlines are gradually beginning to bring their narrowbody fleets back into service, but the majority of widebodies are still parked up in Victorville CA, Alice Springs, and Teruel in Spain. Until those come back into service long haul travel is going to be severely curtailed Edited July 15, 2020 by GinBoy2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Often I expect things too. Sadly it doesn't have any impact on reality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oliver Holzerfilled Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, AndrewMciver said: They aren't ready to open up. Mentally the reaction to this one case has been astonishing. Don't blame them, but the economic damage will be tough. Hopefully the Chinese will bail them out, as they are going to need it. Yes the reaction to the Egyptian case has been Thailand's equivalent of the panic buying of toilet paper seen in the USA and Australia, 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Mung said: Isn't going to happen. The country locks down an entire region because of 1 confirmed case. The population of Thailand think allowing 1 confirmed case is a terrible thing.. It is IMPOSSIBLE to have anybody coming in and to gain no new cases. Thailand needs to wake up and pull their socks up while they're at it. How many more businesses have to go under, or how many more suicides need to take place? More people die on Thailands roads per day than COVID-19 ever has taken. On the other hand if Thailand has many cases people will avoid to come to Thailand. It is not an easy situation. But if Thailand can avoid many cases the rest of the Thailand is still working. "Only" businesses relying on Tourists will suffer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: Yes the reaction to the Egyptian case has been Thailand's equivalent of the panic buying of toilet paper seen in the USA and Australia, Can toilet paper spread the corona virus ? The reality is , in the USA, there was once ONE person who had Corvid , going back a few months ago , and now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tribalfusion001 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1.5 million tourists from Egypt and Sudan maybe 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, paulikens said: obviously you know more than me but i know for a fact once the uk government said we could fly to most of europe there was a massive surge in bookings. so i think your wrong and there will be still plenty of people willing to fly. i for one would be quite happy to fly and a lot of people are like me and not gonna live in fear for the rest of their lives. but whether thailand are gonna open up is another thing. Just don't fly to Thailand , stay in Corvid infected areas . We have done very well here in Thailand in avoiding Corvid , dont come here and spread the virus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, tribalfusion001 said: 1.5 million tourists from Egypt and Sudan maybe 555 All flights from Egypt have now been banned , as from today, I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tribalfusion001 Posted July 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: All flights from Egypt have now been banned , as from today, I believe Just a matter of time before it breaks out again... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Can toilet paper spread the corona virus ? The reality is , in the USA, there was once ONE person who had Corvid , going back a few months ago , and now ? If I can believe the news Trump has now grey hair already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said: Just a matter of time before it breaks out again... If this doesnt cause an outbreak , the borders will probably be closed permanently, for years anyway , until the World gets it under control . No hurry to open up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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