fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: And they have big ripples in Texas !! https://lifesaving.com/issues-safety-rescue/low-water-crossings-the-hidden-danger/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: https://lifesaving.com/issues-safety-rescue/low-water-crossings-the-hidden-danger/ So, you know the flooded road in question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, mike787 said: Mercedes...lets start a GOFUND to replace it. I'll be the first to sacrifice my beer money for her, who else is in? I'll donate my beer, once it's been through my digestive system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: So, you know the flooded road in question ? Like I said, I've observed flash floods in a few states. They happen fast, they can happen anywhere , and it can be years before an area gets inundated, and people let their guard down and think they can just drive through water that appears shallow. More quick floods from around the world........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, fredwiggy said: Like I said, I've observed flash floods in a few states. They happen fast, they can happen anywhere , and it can be years before an area gets inundated, and people let their guard down and think they can just drive through water that appears shallow. More quick floods from around the world........................ but do you know this particular piece of road and the nature of the flooding ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerryd Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 OK, part of the problem is the location. Where this happened is much further along the bypass between Khao Noi and Khao Talo, in the area where they did the ditch work last year. The sign board in the background is for the Khao Talo intersection. I initially thought this was at the sump station closer to the Khao Noi intersection. In the other thread there are some phone camera pics of a flooded car. Took awhile but I found the piece of road where those pics were taken. Turns out, it's the same car/location as in this story. These pics are the same car. The guy lives across the road. Chillin' in the back yard after the rescue ! In the pic on the right you can see the concrete barriers are missing (since at least Feb 2019). However, there is nowhere there that a "flash flood" would happen or a sudden "wall of water" appear. The grade isn't that steep along there, nor is there enough of a "channel" to confine the water into a narrow area. The only "wall of water" you would get would be from hitting the water at high speed. I've done that with puddles and streams (in a 4x4 truck, not a Mercedes car) just to see how high of a "wall" of spray you could get. (Did it in an M-113 APC too - didn't impress the guys in the back who got the mud shower though !) She may have tried driving through the water, not realizing how deep it was. When she hit it, it would have thrown up a "wall of water" and I suspect the current would have dragged the car to that gap in the concrete barriers. The pics in the OP are deceptive as they only show the "long after" version of the event, when it looks like the water wasn't that high. When you see the "just after it happened" pics, it becomes a little clearer of just how high the water was. (But still doesn't explain how there could have been a "flash flood" or "wall of water".) By "flash flood" they could simply mean the usual flooding that happens in those areas, where the water level rises rapidly in a heavy downfall and fills the area in a "flash" - but it's not like the raging torrents they show in the Hollywood movies (not in that area). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: but do you know this particular piece of road and the nature of the flooding ? Didn't I say I didn't? This is Thailand, known for flooding and people driving through water thinking they could,l just like Texas. The woman obviously didn't drive through neck deep water, but was trapped in water up to her neck, meaning she drove through shallow water , and it rose quick and she was trapped. This means water from surrounding areas converged on where she was very fast, causing a flash flood. It doesn't have to be near a river or creek. It can just be a low area.. not prone to flooding but heavy rains and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kerryd said: By "flash flood" they could simply mean the usual flooding that happens in those areas, where the water level rises rapidly in a heavy downfall and fills the area in a "flash" - but it's not like the raging torrents they show in the Hollywood movies (not in that area). but in Texas.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Didn't I say I didn't? thats all you need to post in regards to this incident and location. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: but in Texas.............. Flash floods happen everywhere. A flash flood is a rapid flooding of low-lying areas: washes, rivers, dry lakes and depressions. It may be caused by heavy rain associated with a severe thunderstorm, hurricane, tropical storm, or meltwater from ice or snow flowing over ice sheets or snowfields. Wikipedia................Yes, she could have driven through shallow water and ended up in deeper, but up to her neck isn't happening unless the water rose. If the water was a foot deep and she went through it at high speed, it would stop the car. Up to her neck in that car would have to be about 4 feet deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) Just now, Don Mega said: thats all you need to post in regards to this incident and location. thanks. Read up on how fast water can rise, in dry areas not prone to flooding. All I need to post . lol Okay Mr. Thaivisa. Here's more for you Don..................https://www.weather.gov/pbz/floods Edited July 10, 2020 by fredwiggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Read up on how fast water can rise, in dry areas not prone to flooding. All I need to post . lol Okay Mr. Thaivisa. 555. you should visit Thailand (atleast once) and in particular this piece of road to realise how far wrong your rambling's on flood water are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: 555. you should visit Thailand (atleast once) and in particular this piece of road to realise how far wrong your rambling's on flood water are. I live in Thailand, and flash flooding and rapidly rising water happens in every country. I don't have to visit a particular road to know what rapidly rising water from a heavy thunderstorm can do. I've witnessed it hundreds of times in at least 7 states and 2 countries. What you do is rambling, without having any knowledge about the subject. This woman did not drive through 4 feet of water, no matter how fast she was driving. She tried to get through an area with low water, thinking, like everyone else that doesn't understand the trouble she was heading into, and when her car stopped, the water rose. It didn't have to be a wall of water, just fast enough to see her panic and freeze while the water rose higher. It doesn't have to be fast moving water like you see in the videos. Just fast enough for her to sit there and not try and go out the back door or windows. The car is not going to float towards deeper water before she decides not to open the door and get out. I've seen water fill a parking lot, nowhere near any water source, within minutes to over 2 feet deep from heavy rain and being in a low area. Not a flash flood? A rapid flooding of low lying areas, meaning the water came from uphill very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, fredwiggy said: I live in Thailand, and flash flooding and rapidly rising water happens in every country. I don't have to visit a particular road to know what rapidly rising water from a heavy thunderstorm can do. I've witnessed it hundreds of times in at least 7 states and 2 countries. What you do is rambling, without having any knowledge about the subject. This woman did not drive through 4 feet of water, no matter how fast she was driving. She tried to get through an area with low water, thinking, like everyone else that doesn't understand the trouble she was heading into, and when her car stopped, the water rose. It didn't have to be a wall of water, just fast enough to see her panic and freeze while the water rose higher. It doesn't have to be fast moving water like you see in the videos. Just fast enough for her to sit there and not try and go out the back door or windows. The car is not going to float towards deeper water before she decides not to open the door and get out. I've seen water fill a parking lot, nowhere near any water source, within minutes to over 2 feet deep from heavy rain and being in a low area. Not a flash flood? A rapid flooding of low lying areas, meaning the water came from uphill very fast. Nice wall of text, are you familiar with the piece of road in question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: Nice wall of text, are you familiar with the piece of road in question ? It might help you if you actually read what others post and not troll just to get a response. If you read what I've posted, you will see, and maybe understand, that ANY low lying area can have a flash flood, meaning rapidly rising water. If you weren't there, you can't know. If the area isn't a flat table top area for miles around, then it's probably, like most of Thailand, rolling and has lower areas. Meaning heavy rain can come from higher areas and flood the lower area quickly. You may never understand, and from what I've seen in many of your other replies, are just trying to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Pattaya - a world class destination, where you and your car can be swept away by floods in an instant ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnray Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Better luck next time God. Trying to drown a woman and children but you failed. Don't you have something better to do like rape or pandemics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: It might help you if you actually read what others post and not troll just to get a response. If you read what I've posted, you will see, and maybe understand, that ANY low lying area can have a flash flood, meaning rapidly rising water. If you weren't there, you can't know. If the area isn't a flat table top area for miles around, then it's probably, like most of Thailand, rolling and has lower areas. Meaning heavy rain can come from higher areas and flood the lower area quickly. You may never understand, and from what I've seen in many of your other replies, are just trying to troll. are you familiar with the piece of road in question 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, simon43 said: Pattaya - a world class destination Where you can come every day ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: are you familiar with the piece of road in question A little.........https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/massive-flash-flood-brings-pattaya-to-a-crawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samtab Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 drive benz and don't know how to swim ! hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Here the driver explains the water coming from above and from the side to sweep her car away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Here the rescuer explains how high the water was ( almost covering the roof) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hey I almost forgot at least the tunnel didn't flood ???????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 18 hours ago, hotchilli said: Another driver who thinks car can drive in deep flood water, when will they ever learn to stop and turn around. Instead drive thru as fast as they can ,usually some twit in a pick up or a lorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 17 hours ago, johng said: The driver said the water was above her neck and had to tilt her head skywards to carry on breathing luckily a rescuer got to her in time breaking the window to get them out. She she was waiting in a dry-ish spot for the rain to stop but all of a sudden a mass of water came and swept the car away. the water is hardly moving....in the photo....so how can a merc, possibly over a ton in weight GET WASHED away ???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, fredwiggy said: A little.........https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/massive-flash-flood-brings-pattaya-to-a-crawl Nice link, you know the piece of road in question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, essox essox said: the water is hardly moving....in the photo....so how can a merc, possibly over a ton in weight GET WASHED away ???!!! They do actually float (sorta) once a level of water gets to a certain depth. But yes the water s not flowing as hat point in the road is like a catchment area or dam, it just fills with little to no flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredwiggy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Don Mega said: They do actually float (sorta) once a level of water gets to a certain depth. But yes the water s not flowing as hat point in the road is like a catchment area or dam, it just fills with little to no flow. Maybe the picture was taken after the water receded? If you , again, would look at not only the video I sent, but the other hundred available about flash floods, you would see how fast water rises. Living in Texas for 32 years, I saw first hand how bad it gets after a "gulleywasher" and heard on tv how many people foolishly drove past barricades and lost their lives because the water took their truck (car) downstream and they couldn't get out. Most times they were found in the vehicle drowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said: Maybe the picture was taken after the water receded? If you , again, would look at not only the video I sent, but the other hundred available about flash floods, you would see how fast water rises. Living in Texas for 32 years, I saw first hand how bad it gets after a "gulleywasher" and heard on tv how many people foolishly drove past barricades and lost their lives because the water took their truck (car) downstream and they couldn't get out. Most times they were found in the vehicle drowned. yeah you keep waffling on about that. fact remains this portion of road is like a dam, it just fills up, there is very little flow or turbulence to the water. good to hear once again how it is in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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