tomauasia Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, StevieAus said: There was a post on here a couple of weeks ago with a chart listing the costs for obtaining the cover in Thailand it is aged based and from memory for someone 65 -70 years about 90,000 baht for one year there was no provision for a shorter period. Delusional COVID not covered both on any insurance clause.. pandemic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, StevieAus said: There was a post on here a couple of weeks ago with a chart listing the costs for obtaining the cover in Thailand it is aged based and from memory for someone 65 -70 years about 90,000 baht for one year there was no provision for a shorter period. Thanks. I know it's an Oz based thread but UK at 250 a head is for sure going to stop a lot of people thinking about a holiday here soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, StevieAus said: I don’t know about travel insurance but companies here have been offering cover for one year as I stated in a post above. I have medical/ hospital insurance with Alliance that covers me worldwide and they have confirmed it includes Covid. Thailand congratulated for there fake numbers combined with there masters China. ???? One of the best things for Thailand is a new democratic English speaking leader with a broad mind and a higher education than some old army burn outs who have destroyed the country's economy and burned all ties with the West. Who are you congratulating brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomauasia Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, overherebc said: Thanks. I know it's an Oz based thread but UK at 250 a head is for sure going to stop a lot of people thinking about a holiday here soon. Nobody is going period don't listen to the medical tourist lies they are born decievers. They will wait for diseased China. China own Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 18 hours ago, Darkside Gray said: Just returning to the penal colony it was, back to its roots! If you care to read your history you will find that Britain had penal colonies in other parts of the world as did some other countries. Also along with the convicts many of whom were released and granted land and later became wealthy, were free settlers who went to Australia voluntarily. Don’t believe everything you see in the movies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Traubert Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Benmart said: ..as opposed to Americans who don't see (don't want to see) the bigger picture just scream about amendments and personal likes etc.". Your generalization of the more than 330 million Americans shows your slanted view of those multiples of millions who do obey the law and see the "bigger picture". 59, 260 just yesterday. 3.1 m in total. That's quite a few people who DON'T see the bigger picture. The world will never heal with numbers like that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Guderian said: And I still see some people speculating that normal farang tourism will resume in August. <rolleyes> Yes, August 2021 perhaps, lol. Normal tourism as we knew it before turning up at Suvarnabhumbi with just a passport in hand I'd say at least August 2022 not 2021 I have my doubts as well it will be even then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chivas said: Normal tourism as we knew it before turning up at Suvarnabhumbi with just a passport in hand I'd say at least August 2022 not 2021 I have my doubts as well it will be even then Mum and dad with 2 sprogs paying an extra £1000 for insurance ( that may/may not be accepted at the airport ). Airfares at what cost, when some airlines decide to start up again. +++++++%. Internation easy travel is not coming back anytime soon except for a couple of 'carefully' ???? selected countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark mark Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Xonax said: I guess that must be Wannabe expats the article is about! Real expats had plenty of time to get here, before the airports were closed. I lived in Thailand off and on at first but VERY successfully most recently, for 37 years, and even was keeping ahead of the Health Insurance Threat, just before this Virus just Back stabbed, and scuttled all of us ! … Like now much fun has it been in Thailand just lately ? Not Much I suspect .... So I am stuck in Freezing Cold Southern Australia now .... As it is their winter. .... So am I a Wannabe ? …. Well YES looking at the regulations and well given I have no mirage certificate, or children’s Birth certificates, … I guess that I do not even qualify to try to get in now, … so Yes, I have been downgraded TO being a Wannabe I guess ! ? . .... Not eligible to get in, … “Just Yet” ??? Let’s Hope .... I have heard November and December mentioned ??? Ho Hum ... Well let’s Hope so. (Before my NON –O visa runs out !!! ???) Yes am I a Wannabe ? ... No I am just a very VERY stupid Person, … like I left in February ... though no flight bans, or border closures had even been mentioned .... YES ... it WAS obvious, that looking at How Resilient and Contagious CV 19 was .... It was Obvious that the whole world is going to be shut down for a long LONG time. … And well the Thai government wants to reduce the Number of Old Men using it's health system also I think .... And this has been pretty obvious for a couple of years now I think ? .... But I did not see this virus total lock down coming !!! …. Like to worry about the flight ? ... Like Stupid ! ... Not a Wannabe. ... Just a very, … VERY stupid Person. That SARS Virus was much more of a Killer, and that went away ! ? ... So I thought that CV 19 would also .... Stupid. As CV 19 might not kill as high a proportion of it’s Victims, … but is much more Tenacious, and Contagious I think. ... Hence when they say it will be Just Years !!! … Well I think that we could believe them. If any of you pray, pray for me, and the rest of the Poor Bastards locked out of their homes ... for a return in October or November ? Would be good for me !!! Mark Mark !!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, overherebc said: Mum and dad with 2 sprogs paying an extra £1000 for insurance ( that may/may not be accepted at the airport ). Airfares at what cost, when some airlines decide to start up again. +++++++%. Internation easy travel is not coming back anytime soon except for a couple of 'carefully' ???? selected countries. I agree, there probably will be a new normal, and for good reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, scorecard said: I agree, there probably will be a new normal, and for good reasons. New normal. I just had this vision of an Oz supermarket and someone sneezes causing mass panic buying of toilet rolls. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Imagine needing permission from your government to leave your own country? True. As much as I applaud this information for Aussies (not every country cares about their citizens abroad), am I also a bit bewildered, how a Western democracy can lock in their own citizens. (That's exactly, what the former Eastern Bloc was criticized for, and Scott Morrison doesn't have the charisma of a Stalin...) Also, while the '$100,000 health insurance requirement' is mentioned, hopefully, the ambassador mentioned that this is US$, not A$ (1US$ = 1.46A$). ???? Edited July 11, 2020 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said: True. As much as I applaud this information for Aussies (not every country cares about their citizens abroad), am I also a bit bewildered, how a Western democracy can lock in their own citizens. (That's exactly, what the former Eastern Bloc was criticized for, and Scott Morrison doesn't have the charisma of a Stalin...) Also, while the '$100,000 health insurance requirement' is mentioned, hopefully, the ambassador mentioned that this is US$, not A$ (1US$ = 1.46A$). ???? "True. As much as I applaud this information for Aussies (not every country cares about their citizens abroad), am I also a bit bewildered, how a Western democracy can lock in their own citizens." ",,, eastern bloc, scomo doesn't have the charisma of stalin" Seems you can only see the picture in your terms with no possibility that on the ground the story can be different and is different. Resend: Edited July 11, 2020 by scorecard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 What Insurance company would insure against Covid? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, scorecard said: "True. As much as I applaud this information for Aussies (not every country cares about their citizens abroad), am I also a bit bewildered, how a Western democracy can lock in their own citizens." ",,, eastern bloc, scomo doesn't have the charisma of stalin" Seems you can only see the picture in your terms with no possibility that on the ground the story can be different and is different. Resend: Your shoot in the dark , when pinch comes to shove your government owns you, and as they placed the country on a war footing with a national Government, they can do what they bloody like . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookondee Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark mark said: I lived in Thailand off and on at first but VERY successfully most recently, for 37 years, and even was keeping ahead of the Health Insurance Threat, just before this Virus just Back stabbed, and scuttled all of us ! … Like now much fun has it been in Thailand just lately ? Not Much I suspect .... So I am stuck in Freezing Cold Southern Australia now .... As it is their winter. .... So am I a Wannabe ? …. Well YES looking at the regulations and well given I have no mirage certificate, or children’s Birth certificates, … I guess that I do not even qualify to try to get in now, … so Yes, I have been downgraded TO being a Wannabe I guess ! ? . .... Not eligible to get in, … “Just Yet” ??? Let’s Hope .... I have heard November and December mentioned ??? Ho Hum ... Well let’s Hope so. (Before my NON –O visa runs out !!! ???) Yes am I a Wannabe ? ... No I am just a very VERY stupid Person, … like I left in February ... though no flight bans, or border closures had even been mentioned .... YES ... it WAS obvious, that looking at How Resilient and Contagious CV 19 was .... It was Obvious that the whole world is going to be shut down for a long LONG time. … And well the Thai government wants to reduce the Number of Old Men using it's health system also I think .... And this has been pretty obvious for a couple of years now I think ? .... But I did not see this virus total lock down coming !!! …. Like to worry about the flight ? ... Like Stupid ! ... Not a Wannabe. ... Just a very, … VERY stupid Person. That SARS Virus was much more of a Killer, and that went away ! ? ... So I thought that CV 19 would also .... Stupid. As CV 19 might not kill as high a proportion of it’s Victims, … but is much more Tenacious, and Contagious I think. ... Hence when they say it will be Just Years !!! … Well I think that we could believe them. If any of you pray, pray for me, and the rest of the Poor Bastards locked out of their homes ... for a return in October or November ? Would be good for me !!! Mark Mark !!! I dont think you are stupid for those choices at all. You erred on the side of caution, and there could have very easily been huge outbreak in Thailand with all the Chinese flocking in there last Jan and Feb. Anyways, looking at the last few months in Thailand, with lockdowns and all the fun bans, you really haven't missed much id say. Now those there are dealing with all the stress about visas and borders closed and the uncertainty of how Thai Immigration will treat white foreigners..now and in the future. Well, I dont need that..and i dont need to be paying a small fortune into a corrupt system just to stay there. Not when i can be in Aus and be stress free. So Im sure in time you will see this as a blessing. You must be getting some stimulus welfare payments in Australia? Some groups are collecting $1,100 a fortnight and the government will be lifting all normal welfare soon, because they realise the unemployed (for once) will have bigger numbers and bigger voting power. But, back In Thailand, most farangs will just continue being beaten into submission and continue with the slow milking, until they are dry... And all for which you get no quality and absolutely no thanks for the money you've invested (wasted) in the people and the country. Nup! My advice to you.. Re-group, become a normal Aus citizen again, with all the lurks and perks. If Australia wont let us out, then Milk the Aus governent for all the welfare you can. Certainly thats better than getting milked and taken for a mug by Thais? If you've been away that long you probably lost your Medicare rights? Get back into the system again. Its can be a huge safety net for us getting older. Give it a few months and maybe you will think again, otherwise check what the new requirements for entry to Thailand will be, and start again. Honestly, if they keep up the insurance and all the other nonsense, i for one cant be bothered with Thailand. Ive been back in Aus long enough to start seeing clearly... and let me tell you, the fog clears pretty quick! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 16 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said: Help! I'm "stranded" in the country that I was born in, grew up in and made my career in and spent most of my life in! Won't anyone please feel sorry for me. BOO HOO HOO. <deleted>. ???? I wasnt born there. I only worked half my working life there. My career was not made there. But i am an australian citizen and very happy i didnt return when the govt said to return. Those that returned would not have known they couldnt leave. If i was stuck there i would be homeless eating in soup kitchens. I have no family there. So yes, i feel sorry for those whose lives are in a new country being stuck there in a place they do not want or need to be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pookondee Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sujo said: I wasnt born there. I only worked half my working life there. My career was not made there. But i am an australian citizen and very happy i didnt return when the govt said to return. Those that returned would not have known they couldnt leave. If i was stuck there i would be homeless eating in soup kitchens. I have no family there. So yes, i feel sorry for those whose lives are in a new country being stuck there in a place they do not want or need to be. And then again, maybe a few might come to realise its the best thing that could have happened to them. If you are aged 30-40, how do you plan to have the finances to stay in Thailand indefinately anyway? When for many of us employment is banned and the wages are low. You can find life throws out other opportunities. I have met a new lady here in Aus and chances are i could end up moving into her (owned) house with expenses half/half.. Not buying someone a house i can never own and paying 100% of everything and for family bludgers as well! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 Weeks if not months? I'm predicting 1-2 years. I was lucky, left Australia for Thailand about two weeks before the lockdowns started. Believe it or not, I feel safer in Thailand. For those inclined to doubt, just check out what's happening in Melbourne as I write. Just too many stupid people who thought lifting restrictions meant it was time to throw a party. Or security guards that thought bonking infected people in quarantine was safe practice, sharing cigarettes and lighters afterwards. I'm basing my prediction on the hurdles both governments have to rescind before travel can be resumed, and also the convoluted and expensive flight paths. There is no direct flight from Bangkok to Melbourne or vice versa, and may not be for a long time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, chainarong said: Your shoot in the dark , when pinch comes to shove your government owns you, and as they placed the country on a war footing with a national Government, they can do what they bloody like . Just your opinion, I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Benmart said: Such universal adherence and obeyance must be the reason there are no prisons, criminal courts or police in Australia. A perfect society has no need for such things, unlike us Americans. A pathetic attempt at a reductio ad absurdum. We do have prisons, courts and police. What we don't have is one of the highest incarceration rates per capita in the world, second only to China. We don't execute innocent people, because we don't have the death penalty. We don't have mass shootings, because we were sensible enough to realize semi-automatic weapons have only one purpose, killing people as efficiently as possible. We don't have trigger-happy cops. Americans do some things very well. There are other areas where the rest of the world can only shake its head. Australia is not a perfect society. However, there are some things we do a lot better than Americans. For example, AFAIK we have not elected a sociopath to our highest office by a voting process which was probably invented by Rube Goldberg. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidfan Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Susco said: How about Australia not allowing it's own citizens outbound flight till the end of the year? Is Prayuth the Australian PM now? Wrong. An Aussie CAN leave, and do, with a reasonable reason. Simple to fix. Mate in Qld flying back to Cambodia soon, other friends returning to Hong Kong almost daily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, orchidfan said: Wrong. An Aussie CAN leave, and do, with a reasonable reason. Simple to fix. Mate in Qld flying back to Cambodia soon, other friends returning to Hong Kong almost daily. The big difference is, in Oz, and, to a certain degree, in Hong Kong, there is the rule of law, with all people, more or less, treated equally, as opposed to Thailand, where any little dictator can make rules as he pleases, discriminating against people based on nationality, complexion, or whatever, and where, as a foreigner, you will always have zero rights, even if you live here for 50 years... - How, otherwise, can you explain that requirement of a $100,000 health insurance against Covid-19? What insurance company will provide that? Edited July 11, 2020 by StayinThailand2much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, tomauasia said: Delusional COVID not covered both on any insurance clause.. pandemic Wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, orchidfan said: Wrong. An Aussie CAN leave, and do, with a reasonable reason. Simple to fix. Mate in Qld flying back to Cambodia soon, other friends returning to Hong Kong almost daily. There's a whole comprehensive list of possible exemptions a citizen can use to get permission to leave whilst COVID 19 is still around, and the process is not complex. Edited July 11, 2020 by scorecard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heist Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, pookondee said: If you are aged 30-40, how do you plan to have the finances to stay in Thailand indefinately anyway? Can only speak for myself but my investments are doing very well. Not everyone is lazing about and angrily posting on the internet while waiting for another government handout. Edited July 11, 2020 by heist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, orchidfan said: Wrong. An Aussie CAN leave, and do, with a reasonable reason. Simple to fix. Mate in Qld flying back to Cambodia soon, other friends returning to Hong Kong almost daily. Hope he's got the required funds to get in to Cambo. Not cheap at the moment and costs could easily escalate if there's an infected person on your flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Meeseeks Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said: as a foreigner, you will always have zero rights, even if you live here for 50 years... Stop moaning and get PR and citizenship if you want the same rights as a local. Get a proper job, pay taxes for three years and apply. Stay a further five years and apply to become a Thai citizen. If you are too old or too stupid to do it you're s*** outta luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Lacessit said: Weeks if not months? I'm predicting 1-2 years. I was lucky, left Australia for Thailand about two weeks before the lockdowns started. I see unlike many here you're using your noodle. There are a lot of people here who probably read prison planet .com. You can see their irrational posts, and picture them at 3am writing with red eyes in the dark, the A/C on, slamming their keyboard... The airlines have not only laid off staff world wide, they have done so permanently. The airlines anticipate at least 1 - 2 years before things get back to normal. At least. That's why they have been let go permanently. They are not coming back. This is not a temporary thing. 1-2 years is not temporary. Until there is a vaccine there will be no tourism to Thailand, full stop. Besides, residents like you will get first crack to come back. I will write that it's nice to see that the plandemic people have finally left into the bowels of the internet. They are swirling somewhere feeding off their fears, anger, and hostility barfing out obscure figures, blaming the governments, people, the 1 percent. Screaming about chinese tourists, crying, no answers to anything, just pointing out problems. The internet is a great place for them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sujo Posted July 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Stop moaning and get PR and citizenship if you want the same rights as a local. Get a proper job, pay taxes for three years and apply. Stay a further five years and apply to become a Thai citizen. If you are too old or too stupid to do it you're s*** outta luck. And you will still not have the same rights as a local. Edited July 11, 2020 by Sujo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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