HashBrownHarry Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mikeasq60 said: Really, you get all of that no problem for you! It's a lot of running about and an expense but it's possible. As mentioned, guess it depends how much you want home..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 4:10 PM, Brunolem said: What is unbelievable is to find normal this kind of obstacle course to enter a country. It was easier to visit the Soviet Union during the cold war, and yet the would be visitors were rightly bitching about the paperwork. And the worst is that there is no end in sight for this madness. Meanwhile, European people, with far more dire covid 19 situations, are moving freely within most of the EU...without disastrous consequences... Try getting into Australia, unless you are a citizen, permanent resident or close relative you cannot. On arrival you are taken under escort to a hotel room that you cannot leave for two weeks. I have an elderly friend in the UK and because he has some health issues has been confined to his home for 3 months Look was is happening around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPhibes Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 20 hours ago, mjakob007 said: very valid point. Even with all the docs and $$, if there are not sufficient critical mass of Thai's wanting to evacuate, i am afraid our effort will be in vain. Or too many. I was told two weeks ago by the Thai Embassy in WA D.C. that I could not apply for a repatriation flight through them or make any reservation for a flight months out and that they had no idea when spots would become available to non-Thai citizens. So even if I jumped through all the logistic hoops, there is not a flight from the US at this time to get back to my family in Chiang Mai. I've set my sights to revisit this in about 2-3 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbioff Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 21 hours ago, uhuh said: Taiwan handled about 200000 quarantines of incoming persons, just as Germany did (as Berti mentioned). The virus has been eliminated in Taiwan, not just flattened the curve (contrary to what Tim writes in another post). Everyone who stayed in home quarantine in Taiwan got 1000 TWD per day from the government, that's about 1000 baht - even foreigners got it (can you smell a difference to Thai's attitude?). Fine for breaking quarantine up to 1000,000 TWD - and your neighbors would watch. It's doable. I’m moving to Taiwan ????????!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumak Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 hours ago, possum1931 said: Are the Germans not run by well educated people with their equivalent of university degrees, while Thailand is run my ex military people who have been in the forces most of their life, and not a lot of brains, who were not even voted in. OOPS ! That remark should add another 3 or 4 requirements to the process. It is rumored that farangs will be required to correctly say " who sells chicken eggs" ....in Thai language 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftToPutRealName Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 6:53 PM, sencelebi said: Again ! Most people are bitching as always. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable people might be annoyed that OP nearly ran out of letters for all the steps required to get into Thailand? Yeah okay, sure bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rct99q Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 Although I have not returned, yet. It is looking promising. Costs to date have been negligeable. My wife in Thailand has assisted with negotiating with one of the ASQ hotels and getting updates. From my end getting copies of the required documents was easy. Purchased a monthly Health Insurance plan that covers Covid19. Good to have coverage anyways. Covid19 tests and fit to fly are relatively easy to coordinate in Canada. And to date have been covered under my health plan. The biggest issue has been flights. I booked flights with China Airlines knowing they would be cancelled. These i provided with my original application. They have since been cancelled and I have already been provided a refund from the airline. Since then i have applied for a sponsored flight which has been coordinated by the local Thai Consulate. Have booked a future dated flight which the consulate then changes travel date in coordination with the airline. The catch is it is a Thai repatriation flight and there is the possibility all seats could be filled by Thai Nationals. Will find out Monday. On the plus side my flights were cheaper than my wife and daughters tickets we bought for her to go back in June. The real only additional costs will be the ASQ hotel for two weeks in Bangkok. It has been mildly stressful but not a huge hardship in getting done, so far. May still not get on the flight. But the way things are going here in Canada...it is a toss up which country will be better to be in, in the next 6 months to a year. Unemployment is running high here. Outbreaks keep happening. Some people are not taking it as serious as they should. This winter will be difficult. Borders will remain closed till at least the end of the year, so looking bleak here. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 hours ago, DrPhibes said: Or too many. I was told two weeks ago by the Thai Embassy in WA D.C. that I could not apply for a repatriation flight through them or make any reservation for a flight months out and that they had no idea when spots would become available to non-Thai citizens. So even if I jumped through all the logistic hoops, there is not a flight from the US at this time to get back to my family in Chiang Mai. I've set my sights to revisit this in about 2-3 weeks. Thank you. I got the other of the same stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjakob007 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, rct99q said: Although I have not returned, yet. It is looking promising. Costs to date have been negligeable. My wife in Thailand has assisted with negotiating with one of the ASQ hotels and getting updates. From my end getting copies of the required documents was easy. Purchased a monthly Health Insurance plan that covers Covid19. Good to have coverage anyways. Covid19 tests and fit to fly are relatively easy to coordinate in Canada. And to date have been covered under my health plan. The biggest issue has been flights. I booked flights with China Airlines knowing they would be cancelled. These i provided with my original application. They have since been cancelled and I have already been provided a refund from the airline. Since then i have applied for a sponsored flight which has been coordinated by the local Thai Consulate. Have booked a future dated flight which the consulate then changes travel date in coordination with the airline. The catch is it is a Thai repatriation flight and there is the possibility all seats could be filled by Thai Nationals. Will find out Monday. On the plus side my flights were cheaper than my wife and daughters tickets we bought for her to go back in June. The real only additional costs will be the ASQ hotel for two weeks in Bangkok. It has been mildly stressful but not a huge hardship in getting done, so far. May still not get on the flight. But the way things are going here in Canada...it is a toss up which country will be better to be in, in the next 6 months to a year. Unemployment is running high here. Outbreaks keep happening. Some people are not taking it as serious as they should. This winter will be difficult. Borders will remain closed till at least the end of the year, so looking bleak here. Thank you for sharing. If we obtained a CoE using a particular flight booking, can we change the flight booking and use the initially issued CoE for a new flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Easier to go through Checkpoint Charlie than to fly to Thailand. I will pass until the madness requirements disappear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmya123 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) On 7/10/2020 at 4:59 PM, nkptai said: After de-boarding the flight at Suvarnabhumi, health questionnaires were checked and passengers without ASQ booking were allocated to free government quarantine Well, i will return Tha with the same procedure with Non-O visa individually(because my thai family live in north). My all documents you mentioned above for all step have been readily available except ASQ hotel reservation. My flight will be held by T.Emb on Jul 29th but my major problem is that i have limited budget to stay ASQ hotel(because i am single worker as teacher in my family and ASQ prices are quite lot for my situtation) If i arrive BKK airport and if i have no ASQ reservation , does the government provide state quarantine with at least low price(not free) , meanwhile i have to start to teach asap to support my thai family(wife and daughter) because my students are looking forward me going back school and my family too What is the government procedure for my situation and similar people.. Edited July 12, 2020 by jimmya123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, jimmya123 said: If i arrive BKK airport and if i have no ASQ reservation , does the government provide state quarantine with at least low price(not free) , meanwhile i have to start to teach asap to support my thai family(wife and daughter) because my students are looking forward me going back school and my family too If you do not have an ASQ reservation, as a foreigner, you will not be allowed on the flight. I sympathise for your situation but, rightly or wrongly, the Thai authorities have decided not subsidise foreigners returning to Thailand. You need to cover most of the costs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucker4012 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Supposedly easy? Was what looked like world's longest post to describe something that only a year ago took minutes. Congratulations. Cost of >$100,000 USD policy premium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Travellers will fall tremendously. People go on holiday to have a break and relax from stress. This is far more stress than is required or needed. A complete overboard reaction to a virus that has been proved to be wildly exaggerated especially in the west. This is control and there is more to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bolt Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Sumarianson said: Travellers will fall tremendously. People go on holiday to have a break and relax from stress. This is far more stress than is required or needed. A complete overboard reaction to a virus that has been proved to be wildly exaggerated especially in the west. This is control and there is more to come. Why do people even bother to post negatives comments. this topic is related to expats looking to return to Thailand, not visit for a holiday. Please don’t clutter up this topic with the usual doom and gloom comments for people who are only happy when they have something to complain about, if you don’t like the current rules and regulations to return to Thailand, don’t return back. Tourists will be welcomed back later 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 hours ago, rct99q said: Although I have not returned, yet. It is looking promising. Costs to date have been negligeable. My wife in Thailand has assisted with negotiating with one of the ASQ hotels and getting updates. From my end getting copies of the required documents was easy. Purchased a monthly Health Insurance plan that covers Covid19. Good to have coverage anyways. Covid19 tests and fit to fly are relatively easy to coordinate in Canada. And to date have been covered under my health plan. The biggest issue has been flights. I booked flights with China Airlines knowing they would be cancelled. These i provided with my original application. They have since been cancelled and I have already been provided a refund from the airline. Since then i have applied for a sponsored flight which has been coordinated by the local Thai Consulate. Have booked a future dated flight which the consulate then changes travel date in coordination with the airline. The catch is it is a Thai repatriation flight and there is the possibility all seats could be filled by Thai Nationals. Will find out Monday. On the plus side my flights were cheaper than my wife and daughters tickets we bought for her to go back in June. The real only additional costs will be the ASQ hotel for two weeks in Bangkok. It has been mildly stressful but not a huge hardship in getting done, so far. May still not get on the flight. But the way things are going here in Canada...it is a toss up which country will be better to be in, in the next 6 months to a year. Unemployment is running high here. Outbreaks keep happening. Some people are not taking it as serious as they should. This winter will be difficult. Borders will remain closed till at least the end of the year, so looking bleak here. I really wonder why they do not allow some regular flights. They could have the same procedure with COE but the embassies would not have to organize the flights. To me it is something like: "Dear Thai people, see what the government is doing for you. We even organize a flight to get you back home." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtumwrong Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Berti said: I really wonder why they do not allow some regular flights. They could have the same procedure with COE but the embassies would not have to organize the flights. To me it is something like: "Dear Thai people, see what the government is doing for you. We even organize a flight to get you back home." One reason is that they need to control the daily quota of incoming travelers, hence they do the organizing. Unfortunately their ticket prices are +40% from the previous normal. Edited July 13, 2020 by somtumwrong 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, somtumwrong said: One reason is that they need to control the daily quota of incoming travelers, hence they do the organizing. Unfortunately their ticket prices are +40% from the previous normal. Yes you are right. But they could control the numbers by the numbers of issued COE's. Now there is the situation that expats have a quarantine booking but cannot fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/12/2020 at 1:18 AM, BritTim said: I believe it was a flight primarily arranged specially to assist Thai citizens wishing to return to Thailand. Insofar as space allowed, foreigners with COE were also allowed to join the flight. What would you call the flight? I call it a flight to heaven ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letseng Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 3:50 PM, BritTim said: This. A Covid-19 test whenever someone develops symptom and, failing that, towards the end of the quarantine period is also probably prudent. Certainly, though, the 14-day quarantine is known to be the most important measure. The challenge here is that providing secure, safe quarantine facilities is nowhere near as easy as people imagine. Even New Zealand (which has handled the pandemic as well as any country) has struggled to provide enough quarantine places and keep them secure and safe. That is to manage hundreds of daily arrivals. If Thailand wants to allow thousands of people to enter Thailand daily, it will be a huge organisational challenge. Everybody worries about tourists clogging the system if allowed in. What about Elite Visa or non O visa holders who are not married to Thais? Quarantine would not be an obstacle for me. I'd just do it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Letseng said: Everybody worries about tourists clogging the system if allowed in. What about Elite Visa or non O visa holders who are not married to Thais? Quarantine would not be an obstacle for me. I'd just do it. Elite visas Don't qualify just now. The Offical current reasons to return to thailand are , The Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate-General will forward the request and related document to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom Thailand for consideration with relevant Thai authorities on a case-by-case basis, taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/14/2020 at 9:01 AM, bolt said: Elite visas Don't qualify just now. The Offical current reasons to return to thailand are , The Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate-General will forward the request and related document to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom Thailand for consideration with relevant Thai authorities on a case-by-case basis, taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. I'm not sure if this is still valid. There are clear rules and required documents now. If someone's girlfriend is terminally ill in Thailand, he cannot go because he has no marriage certificate to present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 48 minutes ago, Berti said: I'm not sure if this is still valid. There are clear rules and required documents now. If someone's girlfriend is terminally ill in Thailand, he cannot go because he has no marriage certificate to present. current 4 categories are Staff of diplomatic, consular missions, International Organizations, or representatives of foreign governments performing their duties in the Kingdom of Thailand : Persons with work permit or permission from Thai Government agencies to work in the Kingdom : The non-Thai nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals may apply for entry permit into the Kingdom of Thailand through the following procedures: The non-Thai nationals who are in urgent need of medical treatment at the hospitals/medical institutions in the Kingdom of Thailand may apply for entry permit through the following procedures: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berti Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, bolt said: current 4 categories are Staff of diplomatic, consular missions, International Organizations, or representatives of foreign governments performing their duties in the Kingdom of Thailand : Persons with work permit or permission from Thai Government agencies to work in the Kingdom : The non-Thai nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals may apply for entry permit into the Kingdom of Thailand through the following procedures: The non-Thai nationals who are in urgent need of medical treatment at the hospitals/medical institutions in the Kingdom of Thailand may apply for entry permit through the following procedures: Yes, exactly and some more (11). But I don't find "humanitarian reasons" anymore as you wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Berti said: Yes, exactly and some more (11). But I don't find "humanitarian reasons" anymore as you wrote. That part is in a sub section (2) Top Stories : ANNOUNCEMENT:Advisory for Entry into the Kingdom of Thailand for Non-Thai Nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals The non-Thai nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals may apply for entry permit into the Kingdom of Thailand through the following procedures: The Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate-General will forward the request and related document to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom Thailand for consideration with relevant Thai authorities on a case-by-case basis, taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, bolt said: That part is in a sub section (2) Top Stories : ANNOUNCEMENT:Advisory for Entry into the Kingdom of Thailand for Non-Thai Nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals The non-Thai nationals who are married to the Thai nationals or children of the Thai nationals may apply for entry permit into the Kingdom of Thailand through the following procedures: The Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate-General will forward the request and related document to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom Thailand for consideration with relevant Thai authorities on a case-by-case basis, taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. The way I read that, it says if you are married to a Thai national, you can apply for an entry permit and your application will be considered on a case-by-case basis taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. If you are not married (or fit into one of the other approved categories) then you can't even apply so humanitarian grounds won't help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, thedemon said: The way I read that, it says if you are married to a Thai national, you can apply for an entry permit and your application will be considered on a case-by-case basis taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. If you are not married (or fit into one of the other approved categories) then you can't even apply so humanitarian grounds won't help. the wording is the same for health and medical also The non-Thai nationals who are in urgent need of medical treatment at the hospitals/medical institutions in the Kingdom of Thailand may apply for entry permit through the following procedures: 1. Applicants should submit request and relevant document from their respective Embassies/ Missions/International Organizations in Thailand to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Thailand. The applications will be considered by the relevant Thai authorities on a case-by-case basis, taking into account urgency and humanitarian reasons. Different wording for Work visa The Royal Thai Embassy or the Royal Thai Consulate-General will forward the request and related document to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom Thailand for consideration with relevant Thai authorities on a case by case basis, taking into account urgency and economic aspect, among others. Edited July 16, 2020 by bolt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkniko Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Hi, What is the process of ASQ hotel booking? Do you simply book one of the ASQ hotels on sites like tripadvisor, booking, for 14 days? Or how does it work? Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, bkkniko said: Hi, What is the process of ASQ hotel booking? Do you simply book one of the ASQ hotels on sites like tripadvisor, booking, for 14 days? Or how does it work? Thank you No you cannot use any other website I believe ALL Travel-hotel websites Booking . com AGOGA etc will let you book, but these are not through the Thai Gov site, so they are NOT valid for you to get your COE certificate, don’t book through them You must use the State site. I’ll try to add the link http://hsscovid.com/ Here’s a screenshot from my ASQ hotel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) you need to do these steps, (1) Declaration Form(2) Copy of passport of the non-Thai national married to the Thai national / children of the Thai national(3) Copy of spouse’s Thai passport / parent’s Thai passport(4) Proof of relationship with Thai nationals, such as a copy of marriage certificate or birth certificate.(5) A copy of valid health insurance covering all expenditures of medical treatment, including COVID-19 with the minimum coverage of 100,000 USD. once approved, you can proceed to book ASQ hotel, but not before, so don't book any hotel just yet, or even flight ticket. Edited July 17, 2020 by bolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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