WHO advance team heads to China to set up probe into coronavirus origin

[Mavideol]

6 hours ago, yuyiinthesky said:

I‘m happy for her that she could escape and survive

for how long we don't know, they have undercover people all around the world, couple years ago some dissidents were riding a train in Thailand, maybe fall a sleep and woke up in China, they, as o many others (like the book shopkeeper) disappear from circulation

[Mavideol]

10 hours ago, rooster59 said:

"We expect that the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) will offer the team of scientists full access to data, samples, and localities, and look forward to its timely report," Bremberg said.

wishful thinking, good luck but that would the a first in history

[rupert the bear]

this will be used by PRC as a propaganda exercise and WHO is in their back pocket,the virologist that had to flee is the important fact,IE fact and PRC two sworn enemies.

[Morch]

10 hours ago, rabas said:

It is no longer believed it came from the market as the earliest patients never went there nor knew anyone who did.

 

So they send two animal experts. They need to send virology lab experts.

 

 

 

 

Or better yet, two TVF experts....

[Morch]

7 hours ago, Traubert said:

Ah the New York Post.

 

And an American 'refugee.......'

 

Ah Traubert.

 

And the obligatory insinuation......

[DrTuner]

45 minutes ago, Morch said:

Or better yet, two TVF experts....

Never to be seen again, unless archeologists far in the future DNA match a gulag mass burial site.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Never to be seen again, unless archeologists far in the future DNA match a gulag mass burial site.

 

Let the nominations begin, I say!

[DrTuner]

Just now, Morch said:

Let the nominations begin, I say!

I know who I'd dominate but he's probably employed by the gulag already.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, DrTuner said:

I know who I'd dominate but he's probably employed by the gulag already.

 

Freud is curious.

[brianp0803]

You would think they would want an independent organization with fully access given to do the investigation instead of the WHO.

But with plenty of advanced notice, destruction of incriminating documents will be easy. 
Biden fully supports and trusts the WHO and pledges full funding if elected. Smart man. Possible future president. China must be excited. 

[DrTuner]

31 minutes ago, brianp0803 said:

You would think they would want an independent organization with fully access given to do the investigation instead of the WHO.

Good luck finding one. Every org needs its funding and is already bent due to that.

Edited July 11, 2020 by DrTuner
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[candide]

29 minutes ago, brianp0803 said:

You would think they would want an independent organization with fully access given to do the investigation instead of the WHO.

But with plenty of advanced notice, destruction of incriminating documents will be easy. 
Biden fully supports and trusts the WHO and pledges full funding if elected. Smart man. Possible future president. China must be excited. 

Who is "they"?

[brianp0803]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Who is "they"?

They is - Someone interested in getting the truth about the origin of the virus without bias. Many countries now seem to feel the WHO is in China’s pocket and not independent. 
it would be good if it was a multinational funded research project. It would be good if short lived organizations so participators would not fear retribution from their findings. It would dissolve after its findings are released. 

 

[tomauasia]

Lab made biological weapon. This is old news. WHO will be paid and sent home. They may want to investigate China's new pandemic. BLACK DEATH..

[elliss]

13 hours ago, sabian said:

Umm lets guess the outcome of this visit....

 

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[Baerboxer]

13 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

This is a chance for China to provide full unhindered cooperation to WHO and repair their battered international image on the origin and handling of COVID-19. China owes the world and to themselves to present truth and facts. 

 

Do you think that's remotely likely to happen?

 

It will be approved from start to finish by the CCP. And deliver the message they want.

[Isaan sailor]

Nobody should trust CCP, but this is a chance for WHO to finally come clean and show the world they can finally uncover the true cause of Wuhan virus.

[candide]

2 hours ago, brianp0803 said:

They is - Someone interested in getting the truth about the origin of the virus without bias. Many countries now seem to feel the WHO is in China’s pocket and not independent. 
it would be good if it was a multinational funded research project. It would be good if short lived organizations so participators would not fear retribution from their findings. It would dissolve after its findings are released. 

 

The WHO is multinational funded. We don't know yet who the experts are, but it's very likely that, as other WHO task forces, they will be employees of their respective national health organisations.

[DaftToPutRealName]

15 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

This is a chance for China to provide full unhindered cooperation to WHO and repair their battered international image on the origin and handling of COVID-19. China owes the world and to themselves to present truth and facts. 

 

They already bulldozed the market so good luck with that. I'm sure they'll find another way to twist it into avoiding blame for the "american" virus (dripping sarcasm)

[brianp0803]

12 hours ago, tomauasia said:

Lab made biological weapon. This is old news. WHO will be paid and sent home. They may want to investigate China's new pandemic. BLACK DEATH..

I think few people (except Biden) would question the wisdom of Trump not wanting to fund the WHO?

Other than collecting statistics and defending China, what do they do?

[lannarebirth]

It has been widely suspected for 2 months now, and a certainty for a month that the Sars CoV2 virus originated from the Wuhan lab and is the product of "gain of function" research. A practice that has been outlawed in the US due to the extreme risks associated with it. No one is charging the Chinese (yet) with having purposely unleashed the virus and current thinking is it was released as the result of poor labratory safety practices.

[RocketDog]

On 7/11/2020 at 10:42 AM, steven100 said:

  good luck with that one ...

Agreed. This is a predictable exercise in futility that will inevitably be twisted into a propaganda win for the CCP. 

Best that any foreigners sent on this mission be over 80 with no living family, friends, or relatives back home. 

The CCP will always exploit any form of leverage available to them to accomplish their agenda: obfuscation and misdirection. 

[lannarebirth]

Apaarently the Wuhan Coronavirus Research Labratory is off limits for this inquiry.  I hope the "investigators" at least get some good dim sum for their trouble. 

[candide]

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

It has been widely suspected for 2 months now, and a certainty for a month that the Sars CoV2 virus originated from the Wuhan lab and is the product of "gain of function" research. A practice that has been outlawed in the US due to the extreme risks associated with it. No one is charging the Chinese (yet) with having purposely unleashed the virus and current thinking is it was released as the result of poor labratory safety practices.

If it's a "certainty", you must have several top scientific references to support this claim. Where are they?

[Dap]

"WHO advance team heads to China to set up probe into coronavirus origin.
 

Geezuz! A little late for that eh? All they need to do is read the multiple results of any number of investigations. Why in the world waste their time on something that will not help in any way and we already know that they will find no fault in China. (Only upside - the U.S. won't be paying for it.)

Edited July 12, 2020 by Dap

[brianp0803]

3 hours ago, Dap said:

"WHO advance team heads to China to set up probe into coronavirus origin.
 

Geezuz! A little late for that eh? All they need to do is read the multiple results of any number of investigations. Why in the world waste their time on something that will not help in any way and we already know that they will find no fault in China. (Only upside - the U.S. won't be paying for it.)

If Biden gets elected he promised to immediately fund the WHO.. Then America will be paying for it. 
i don’t know if Biden plans to pay all the money Trump denied the WHO

Smart decision?

[seajae]

find it hard to believe we will see the truth emerge, they need independant experts but china wont let them in, why is that, another who cover up coming to please their ccp masters

 

[seajae]

On 7/11/2020 at 4:37 PM, Scot123 said:

So China is investigating its self then.

Watched the job interview for the head of WHO and unable to answer one single question yet got the job!!! His history is shocking and criminal but, but, but. Wish my own government would have the Balls to stop funding CCP propaganda wing.

he was a member of a terrorist group before getting the job so you really have to wonder who was paid off to give him the position and who paid it, seems pretty close/chummy with china, the fix was in.

 

[Selatan]

On 7/11/2020 at 9:29 AM, Hayduke said:

A waste of time as China will never even come close to admitting the truth…but instead will assist the ‘experts’ by telling them, in precise detail, what the WHO ‘findings’ will be.

 

And after much wining, dining, smiling, pretend social distancing, and bogus camaraderie…the ‘experts’ will receive lavish praise from their new comrades for mindlessly parroting whatever narrative China tells them to mindlessly parrot.

 

This plague has proven the WHO to be little more than a timid Chinese lapdog…afraid of its master...and performing tricks on command.

What truth are you talking about? Were you in Wuhan back in December and have a very close relationship with the mayor and all the health regulators there?

 

If Spain, Brazil and Italy have discovered traces of the virus in their March, November and December 2019 sewage samples, it would be stupid to continue to maintain that China is definitely the source of the virus without investigating other countries.

 

It's good that China and other countries have agreed to be investigated. Far better than the US which was only interested in China alone to be investigated. No wonder the US quit the WHO. Probably to avoid getting investigated. 

[Selatan]

On 7/11/2020 at 11:02 AM, metisdead said:

Chinese virologist in hiding after accusing Beijing of coronavirus cover-up

A respected Chinese virologist who says she did some of the earliest research into COVID-19 last year has accused Beijing of lying about when it learned of the deadly virus and engaging in an extensive cover-up of her work, according to a new report.

 

In a new interview with Fox News, Dr. Li-Meng Yan says her supervisors at the Hong Kong School of Public Health, a reference laboratory for the World Health Organization, silenced her when she sounded the alarm about human-to-human transmission in December last year.

 

In April, Yan fled Hong Kong and escaped to America to raise awareness about the pandemic, the report said. She told Fox News she is now living in hiding in the US and fears for her life.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/07/10/chinese-virologist-flees-after-accusing-beijing-of-covid-19-cover-up/

The article was misleading.

Here, watch her video statement:

https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-virologist-coronavirus-cover-up-flee-hong-kong-whistleblower

It was not about her work on the virus. It was just communication between her and some Wuhan doctors. She's a nobody in this case, not someone doing actual work on the virus in Wuhan itself. Not sure why she thinks she would be targeted. I wouldn't be surprised if she has some mental issues, such as suffering from paranoid schizophrenia. Maybe that's why her husband refused to follow her to "run" to the US.

 

The first question I asked after the new disease was discovered was "is it transmissible between humans?" and some might answer "probably" or "yes". Those are opinions, not scientifically proven. She thinks those opinions were considered dangerous but it's nothing but ordinary chatter to me. A family cluster is still not conclusive evidence. Maybe the whole family was exposed to an animal, which is not uncommon, such as in bird flu cases where the whole family ate the same chicken. Only when China CDC workers themselves got infected then only H2H is confirmed.

And the Jan 14 WHO announcement was often twisted to say that WHO said H2H was not happening. 

On 14 January, The Wuhan Municipal Health Committee published a Q&A regarding the coronavirus, stating: "current investigation hasn't found clear evidence of human to human transmission, however, the possibility of human to human transmission cannot be ruled out", so the WHO's tweet "preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in Wuhan, China" was not wrong. Too bad many overlooked the "preliminary" part and jumped to the conclusion that it was "conclusive" that Covid-19 was not H2H possible.