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Yamaha Grand Filano 125 Hybrid ABS scooter..

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Just selling our 11+ year old PCX and 4 year old Grand Filano. Mrs.T wants a new bike. PCX was great but a bit heavy for what she uses a bike for. The filano was OK...

Vespa has been mentioned but the price is daft.

I have watched a few vids on the Filano hybrid, to me it all looks good and ahead of the crowd with the tech, plus half the price of a Vespa.

 

Anyone any feedback on the Hybrid....?

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7 hours ago, transam said:

Yam Filano

Yes Yam scoot good to go unless you want to be a wanna be HiSo with a overpriced Vespa. 😂

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Wife got the Hybrid for over a year now.

 

Only thing we don't like is the key-less system, it's a pain, take some time getting used to.

 

Other than that, a fine little scooter, ABS on the front brake is really good.

 

To small for me so I stick to my aging PCX.

 

Agreed that you pay for the name for the Vespa (Made in Vietnam I think) and I also flatly refused when the wife showed interest in them.

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Well done Transam . That's what you get when you've taken care of your bikes and price them reasonably, fantastic result.

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Nice! I might follow you... giving my 7 year old Vespa to a friend - really didn't like it  - looks great handles badly IMHO

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46 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Nice! I might follow you... giving my 7 year old Vespa to a friend - really didn't like it  - looks great handles badly IMHO

When I was a Mod, a 1960's Mod, I had a Lambretta Li150, then a Lambretta Fi TV175, and lastly a Vespa SS180, the Lambretta's were a far better handling bike, and I did throw them about...:stoner:

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An excellent scoot choice.  The hybrid motor gives an acceleration boost , then recharges the battery. Scomadi - now made in Thailand - are styled on Lambrettas and designed by 2 English guys. Known for well designed exhaust and suspension systems. Royalalloy are also making very similar scoots. 

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I was wondering how these hybrids are on scooters,  so it is not like cars that use the battery and electric motor when going slowly, then when you put your foot on gas the gasoline engine kicks in - well, that's how Toyota hybrid is when I drove it...!? 

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7 hours ago, Agusts said:

I was wondering how these hybrids are on scooters,  so it is not like cars that use the battery and electric motor when going slowly, then when you put your foot on gas the gasoline engine kicks in - well, that's how Toyota hybrid is when I drove it...!? 

 

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Thanks for the video, I don't know why it keeps repeating and promoting one push start, or stop-start system, we don't need hybrid for that, I'm yet to see a modern bike that needs more than one push to start... !? And stop-start has been around for a long time before hybrids came along... marketing gurus...! 

 

I am guessing that battery is not a simple small battery, good to know how long it lasts and replacement doesn't cost more than the fuel saved ....? 

 

I like the higher torque and possibly better acceleration though, but you need to race it against a non-hybrid and let us know , proof in the pudding as they say...😁

 

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Great scooter, really like my Yam Filano, hope you enjoy too.

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22 minutes ago, Agusts said:

Thanks for the video, I don't know why it keeps repeating and promoting one push start, or stop-start system, we don't need hybrid for that, I'm yet to see a modern bike that needs more than one push to start... !? And stop-start has been around for a long time before hybrids came along... marketing gurus...! 

 

I am guessing that battery is not a simple small battery, good to know how long it lasts and replacement doesn't cost more than the fuel saved ....? 

 

I like the higher torque and possibly better acceleration though, but you need to race it against a non-hybrid and let us know , proof in the pudding as they say...😁

 

It has the same physical size as regular bike batteries, Yuasa YTZ7S.

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20 hours ago, ktm jeff said:

An excellent scoot choice.  The hybrid motor gives an acceleration boost , then recharges the battery. Scomadi - now made in Thailand - are styled on Lambrettas and designed by 2 English guys. Known for well designed exhaust and suspension systems. Royalalloy are also making very similar scoots. 

Nice but a bit pricey?  Scomadi and Royalalloy and then there's the maintenance issues etc.

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41 minutes ago, transam said:

It has the same physical size as regular bike batteries, Yuasa YTZ7S.

 

That's good, they are widely available and not expensive,  but I wonder how much assist it can give to the torque and acceleration... , and if the engine is then tuned down to save petrol, so same power end result... !

 

Don't get me wrong, I love the new technology, but sometime in reality they are more of a gimmick and marketing ploy than actually be effective.

 

I have zero experience and info on hybrid scooters, so just asking questions, no idea, I'm sure it is all worth it at the end...

 

From what I heard the standard Filano is a great scooter for town, probably better than Click and all the rest...

 

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