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On 7/15/2020 at 12:47 PM, Tropicalevo said:

Dolphins swimming around Samui.

More than 18 turtle nests on the quiet southern beaches.

Hornbills back on the Angthon Marine park islands

Stingray spotted off Chaweng beach.

Very good snorkelling.

 

I've been trying to spot a Hornbill for years. Tried a few of the national park areas. Sounds like I need to get back to Samui quick with all this nature returning! 

Oh wait, I'm stuck in the UK and not allowed in 🤨

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On 7/16/2020 at 5:23 AM, Tropicalevo said:

You are not keeping up to date.

Chaweng is dead. The beach is glorious. Lots of fish in the sea. There are no noisy nightclubs. No smelly drains when I was there last Thursday. Please try and keep up with everyone.

All goes to prove that we've destroyed our world by overpopulation.

We and the environment lose because some people keep having too many children.

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On 7/16/2020 at 1:38 AM, Youlike said:

Go see the mediterranean beaches which are much more beautifull than chaweng with it's seaweed and noisy nightclubs, oh did i mention the smelly drains?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mediterranean+beach&iax=images&ia=images

Med beaches don't have friendly Thai girls. You're welcome to them.

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On 7/15/2020 at 8:30 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Farangs don't own any land so the development isn't down to them. Of course it was done to attract farangs that wanted more than basic huts, but it didn't have to happen in the way it did. It could have been done in a way that preserved the good nature.

 

maybe the various Tourist places all around the world who suffer now - being empty ... will learn to be more appreciative ..... of Visiting Tourists???

Doubt it. That's not human nature.

They will probably just put the prices up, then wonder why they don't get enough customers.

 

Yes Beachlover, I am fully aware that Farangs cannot own Land, but they flocked to it - and theyeby encouraged overdevelopment.

And that 2nd point? I understand that it is a customary practice in LOS to "increase" prices - whenever Business is slow .... in the hope to make-up for the shortfall?? .... and to attract more Customers ..... ? ...LOL

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18 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

I've been trying to spot a Hornbill for years. Tried a few of the national park areas. Sounds like I need to get back to Samui quick with all this nature returning! 

Oh wait, I'm stuck in the UK and not allowed in 🤨

I saw one several times flying about in it's natural environment some years ago but I suspect it had escaped from Paradise Park Farm. Seeing such a majestic bird in flight and to hear that call was quite an experience...

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10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

All goes to prove that we've destroyed our world by overpopulation.

We and the environment lose because some people keep having too many children.

Always look at the bright side of life: It seems like overpopulation will be less bad than predicted...🙂
 

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Global population growth may peak sooner than expected if the lot of women continues to improve, according to a study that says the world’s population could be 2 billion below UN forecasts by the end of the century.

The Guardian "World population in 2100 could be 2 billion below UN forecasts, study suggests".

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Well said khunPer.

Those old fartss who came here in the '80's, '90's and 2000's who told their friends about this great place called Samui - the development is all you fault. (Yes - I include myself. My friends came and built here too.)

 

 

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52 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

Well said khunPer.

Those old fartss who came here in the '80's, '90's and 2000's who told their friends about this great place called Samui - the development is all you fault. (Yes - I include myself. My friends came and built here too.)

 

 

Or young farts.  My buddy Joe Cummings wrote the first Lonely Planet guidebook for Thailand which came out in 1982.  He wrote about places like Koh Samui, Khao San Road, Chiang Mai/Chaing Rai/Pai after a 10 week visit in '81.   https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/joe-cummings-lonely-planet-thailand/index.html

 

Of course, "South-East Asia on a Shoestring" preceded it by 5 years or so.

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2 hours ago, khunPer said:

Well, if farangs didn't overpopulate Samui from the beginning – and even wrote about the "paradise" island in a German travel magazine – Samui would not have been spoiled; no development would have been necessary, not even basic beachfront huts for backpackers. 

 

And all us arriving to paradise later – because so many talked so positive about it, and even wrote articles in magazines – would not have added more development by building our own houses, at leased or company-owned land, on an already over-developed island.

 

So to sum up how I understand what you are saying: Samui was spoiled by it's first generation of travellers!

 

Could even be that some of those are now among those complaining about over-development...:whistling: 

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When I went there in 79 there wasn't an airport that was the biggest game changer I would think.

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4 hours ago, anon7854 said:

People seem to forget that getting on the island is an extra 10000 baht / tourist (yeah I know there is a cheaper 7 hour option but no sane tourist would take that) . 

Even on a tourist budget, that stings when its multiplied for couples & families.  

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6 hours ago, anon7854 said:

Samui (Chaweng) was almost a ghost town last year in late september. Rasta Bar was completely empty at 23.00 , I only went to say hi to the owner as I personally know him and I was really shocked to see that the entire alley was dead. That never happened even when was low season. A sight I saw on other places as well.  While a little better ,  february 2018 was not too different.

There were also a ton of live webcams throughout the island (that i subscribed to in the last 3-4 years) that gave me a clear idea that tourism numbers were falling drastically before covid struck.

 

You are correct in your observations about Chaweng being a lot less busy in latter years.

However, the reason for this is that the tourist demographic has changed (until covid). Our busiest times for bookings have been in the six months before March this year. Lots of visitors were coming to Samui but not to Chaweng.

We have noticed a lot less Europeans coming to the island, being replaced by Asians. Asians do not tend to go to bars and they are happy to travel in low season (lower prices). They will also happily fly into Suratthani to save money on the airfares. For a group of 8 Asians - that is a huge saving.

The Europeans that have been coming have been families, rather than groups of young singles and sexpats.

The decline of Chaweng started a few years ago. Covid is just another nail in the coffin.

 

"I don't feel sorry for the owners of businesses. They probably have enough to move on. I feel sorry for the employees."

Yes - they are really suffering, with very little support from the government.

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On 7/11/2020 at 11:02 PM, sprq said:

It looks great now! Well, the beach does anyway, like when I was last there in 1996.

Same same 

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12 hours ago, adammike said:

When I went there in 79 there wasn't an airport that was the biggest game changer I would think.

Samui airport, where construction began in 1982 and officially opened in 1989, is not a governmental infrastructure development build for tax payers money, it's a private investment, because there was a demand, and people didn't – and still don't – mind paying a high price for being able to fly onto a "paradise" island.

 

If the first generation of foreigners didn't create that demand, there wouldn't have been an airport.

 

No, it's those of you that came around 1979, and the following few years – and didn't kept the "paradise" island as secret as "the beach" – that was the big game changer...😉

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