What's a good secondhand car around 250k?

[leonardjones625]

I can get a 2015 Almera/Ciaz

2012 Mazda2/Brio/Yaris

2010 City/Vios

 

These are just examples, but anyone got a suggestion on what to buy?

 

Edit: Or should I spend 150-200k on an even older model?

 

Edited July 12, 2020 by leonardjones625

[bert bloggs]

One thats had regular servicing ,so that  leaves out one hell of a lot of Thai owned cars.

[JeffersLos]

A Toyota from Toyota Sure.

Edited July 12, 2020 by JeffersLos

[JeffersLos]

1 hour ago, leonardjones625 said:

Brio

Shouldn't even be allowed on the road.

[bwpage3]

Need to check the mileage, tires, damage, condition and if there are any records of regular scheduled maintenance. If the interior is spotless that is usually a good sign someone took care of the car.

 

Here in the US, from 1996 on, there is an ODB port under the steering wheel that you can plug an ODB reader in and it will tell you what is wrong with many things with the car.

 

No sure if Thai cars have this 0DB port.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2020 by bwpage3

[Jane Dough]

You're on the right track. Must be Japanese with regular service at service center.

 

Rooster

[HauptmannUK]

Well the Ciaz is likely to be the newest and lowest mileage.  Bit underpowered but reliable.

[dimitriv]

3 hours ago, leonardjones625 said:

Almera

 

I owned 2 of them, and drove about 200.000 km with each of them without problems. And I often skipped maintenance.  These cars are indestructible.  

[geriatrickid]

process of elimination;

manufacturer with track record of  (relative) quality; Toyota or Honda

vehicles that are easier to service: ease of access to components, dealer network where you live and travel

safety rating;  compact, not subcompact

 

I wouldn't touch a mazda or nissan product if I had the option of  Honda or Toyota.

[gaviolit]

Toyota Vios E a/t 2004 gold color– 134,500 km - NEVER LPG - 129,000 baht

 

Toyota Vios E A/t 2006 grey color- 122,000 km - NEVER LPG - 139,000  baht

cars in Buriram, if interested PM me

[Bender Rodriguez]

calculated how much money you save, by taking TAXI or public transport...

[Dario]

You add a little bit more money and you get a beautiful car, like a snow white Nissan Teana, inside white as well which is only available in luxury cars, small sedans are all black inside, black means death. Here's a Nissan Teana for 328'000 Baht, this one even has monitors in the headrests for passengers behind:

https://www.one2car.com/en/for-sale/nissan-teana-250-xv-bangkok-metropolitan-pattanakarn-rama-ix/6941154  

[Bob A Kneale]

On 7/12/2020 at 9:08 PM, bert bloggs said:

One thats had regular servicing ,so that  leaves out one hell of a lot of Thai owned cars.

As 99% of cars in Thailand are owned by Thais and Thai dealer servicing departments are always busy what are the chances of finding anything that doesn't have a Thai owner or hasn't had the required maintenance?

[Bob A Kneale]

On 7/12/2020 at 9:35 PM, bwpage3 said:

Here in the US, from 1996 on, there is an ODB port under the steering wheel that you can plug an ODB reader in and it will tell you what is wrong with many things with the car.

 

No sure if Thai cars have this 0DB port.

What are the chances that a Thaivisa reader asking about the viability of buying at the lowest end of the market will have the access and ability to use, never mind interpret, the output of an OBD reader?

[AndyAndyAndy]

Toyota Hilux ????

[Bob A Kneale]

On 7/12/2020 at 11:11 PM, dimitriv said:

 

I owned 2 of them, and drove about 200.000 km with each of them without problems. And I often skipped maintenance.  These cars are indestructible.  

There's a good reason not to choose a foreigner-owned car if you want one that's had proper maintenance!

[Bob A Kneale]

On 7/12/2020 at 9:08 PM, bert bloggs said:

One thats had regular servicing ,so that  leaves out one hell of a lot of Thai owned cars.

 

On 7/12/2020 at 11:11 PM, dimitriv said:

 

I owned 2 of them, and drove about 200.000 km with each of them without problems. And I often skipped maintenance.  These cars are indestructible.  

"I owned 2 of them ... I often skipped maintenance"

"One thats had regular servicing ,so that  leaves out one hell of a lot of Thai owned cars"

 

Mmm.  Seems to leave out some 1% of the wonderful cars that are foreign-owned also!

 

[luckyscruff]

Well I have a 2013 Nissan Almera , great car , very good on fuel , done 140k , but now have problem with CVT Transmission , looked it up on the internet and results say CVT Transmissions gearbox normally last between 5-7 , so I will not not change or buy another car with CVT.  Would be interested in any other comments about CVT Transmission 

[peleid]

Any modern car, the most important thing is well maintained and seviced

[ujayujay]

Mazda 2!

[xylophone]

7 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Mazda 2!

Suzuki Swift.......a great little car and very reliable.

 

Had mine for 8 years now and it has been brilliant.

[Pedrogaz]

Mazda 2 should be doable. I have a 2011 Ford Fiesta 1.6 S (same car) with about 70K on the clock. I recently bought a new truck...the dealership only offered me 200,000 for the Ford, so I said I would prefer to keep it as a second car. 

[brianthainess]

2 hours ago, luckyscruff said:

Well I have a 2013 Nissan Almera , great car , very good on fuel , done 140k , but now have problem with CVT Transmission , looked it up on the internet and results say CVT Transmissions gearbox normally last between 5-7 , so I will not not change or buy another car with CVT.  Would be interested in any other comments about CVT Transmission 

I think the big problem now is if you want an auto most makes are CVT, in fact ford had a class action brought against them for their CVT transmissions fitted to fieste

[barry553]

Mazda 2. It's ok if you are on the small side. I am 180 cm and not fat but felt far too cramped. I bought a Ciaz because it was big for the price. If you run on 95 fuel it has decent power for daily driving.

[brianthainess]

If you want to buy an old car i would recommend a Toyota, simply that you can buy after market spares more easily. I love my Nissan juke, a dream to drive but after market spares almost non existent.

[transam]

6 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I think the big problem now is if you want an auto most makes are CVT, in fact ford had a class action brought against them for their CVT transmissions fitted to fieste

That was Ford, never heard of a real big problem with any other brand CVT. My own CVT ride is now near 6 years old, nooooo ploblems....????

Even most two wheel scoots have had CVT for years, doesn't seem to be any real ploblems with those either.. 

[Bob A Kneale]

25 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

I think the big problem now is if you want an auto most makes are CVT, in fact ford had a class action brought against them for their CVT transmissions fitted to fieste

The transmissions that were problematic for Ford were dual-clutch automatics, not CVTs.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Bob A Kneale

[Bob A Kneale]

18 minutes ago, barry553 said:

Mazda 2. It's ok if you are on the small side. I am 180 cm and not fat but felt far too cramped. I bought a Ciaz because it was big for the price. If you run on 95 fuel it has decent power for daily driving.

"If you run on 95 fuel it has decent power for daily driving".

95 fuel octane rating doesn't give an engine any significant or noticeable power advantage over lower octane fuel.

[DavisH]

3 hours ago, luckyscruff said:

Well I have a 2013 Nissan Almera , great car , very good on fuel , done 140k , but now have problem with CVT Transmission , looked it up on the internet and results say CVT Transmissions gearbox normally last between 5-7 , so I will not not change or buy another car with CVT.  Would be interested in any other comments about CVT Transmission 

Nissan cvt's have a reputation...even the new 2.0 teana/xtrail box has problems. The first repair is dont by nussan, but if it breaks again you are out 300K to replace it. The new honda boxes seem fine. I've been told of the suzuki swift going well over 300K kms on a cvt that is well maintained. So not all are rubbish. On you can by a mazda with a normal 6 speed auto. One should get a minimum of 10 years out of a cvt driven properly and maintained - and probably a lot more. 

[DavisH]

52 minutes ago, transam said:

That was Ford, never heard of a real big problem with any other brand CVT. My own CVT ride is now near 6 years old, nooooo ploblems....????

Even most two wheel scoots have had CVT for years, doesn't seem to be any real ploblems with those either.. 

CVT's are fine, when well maintained. Some even mimic a regular auto, like the one in the civic turbo. So one can drive it fast without the engine screaming its nads off. They do have a lower torque tolerance though than a normal auto or mt, so they can't support a heavily modified engine for very long.