Man in state quarantine dies of heart attack

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Man in state quarantine dies of heart attack

 

 

A 56-year old Thai man, who passed away after he was taken to a state quarantine facility in the eastern province of Chon Buri on Friday, was diagnosed to have died of myocardial infarction, or a heart attack.

 

Dr. Sophon Iamsirikthavorn, director of the General Infectious Diseases Division of the Diseases Control Department, said Sunday that the victim had diabetes and kidney disease, when he arrived from India on Friday, and was immediately taken the state quarantine facility in Chon Buri.

 

The following day, however, he suffered chest pains and he was rushed, by ambulance, to a nearby hospital, said Dr. Sophon, adding that the man was still conscious upon his arrival at the hospital.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/man-in-state-quarantine-dies-of-heart-attack/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2020-07-13

 

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[Matzzon]

Just maybe they should take a person with symptoms like described, to a real hospital in the first place.

[KKr]

8 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Just maybe they should take a person with symptoms like described, to a real hospital in the first place.

The article does not mention what kind of ambulance was used, in case the Ambulance is not kitted out with oxygen or AED, going to the nearest Medical facility sounds like a logical decision to me.

Also, in case you are not familiar with Chonburi, there are some very good hospitals.

[Bender Rodriguez]

so is this a covid death in thai books after all ?

[Matzzon]

1 hour ago, KKr said:

The article does not mention what kind of ambulance was used, in case the Ambulance is not kitted out with oxygen or AED, going to the nearest Medical facility sounds like a logical decision to me.

Also, in case you are not familiar with Chonburi, there are some very good hospitals.

What are you quoting? You simply do not understand what you read.

I was posting it would have been better to quarantine a person with diabetes and kidney disease in a hospital from start and not to a quarantine facility, hence no need for an ambulance at all. Maybe he would also be alive today.

That has nothing to do with Chonburi, Chaing Mai or Koh Chang. Just a portion of common sense could have been a factor that would have saved a life.

Next time, please read before quoting. ???? 

Edited July 13, 2020 by Matzzon

[transam]

9 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

What are you quoting? You simply do not understand what you read.

I was posting it would have been better to quarantine a person with diabetes and kidney disease in a hospital from start and not to a quarantine facility, hence no need for an ambulance at all. Maybe he would also be alive today.

That has nothing to do with Chonburi, Chaing Mai or Koh Chang. Just a portion of common sense could have been a factor that would have saved a life.

Next time, please read before quoting. ???? 

Most folk have an underlying problem of some sort but obviously fit to travel. The guy got off a plane and was put in quarantine, AFTER, he had chest pains, and was taken to hospital.

 

Now you think everyone fit to fly with an underlying problem should take up a hospital bed.

There is not enough bed space for your theory....Gawd.......????

[CALSinCM]

1 hour ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

so is this a covid death in thai books after all ?

In the US and UK - Covid death.
In Thailand - Death by myocardial infarcation

 

[ExpatOne]

1 hour ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

so is this a covid death in thai books after all ?

The virus has been shown to attack/damage the heart. It also creates blood clots. Pretty sure this is a COVID death.

[ExpatOne]

“Rushed by ambulance to a nearby hospital.” I hope the ambulance crew and hospital crew were properly protected. If not, this could be an entry point. What good is a quarantine facility if people can be rushed out of it to a non prepared hospital?

[Anton9]

1 hour ago, ExpatOne said:

The virus has been shown to attack/damage the heart. It also creates blood clots. Pretty sure this is a COVID death.

Yes, before Covid heart attack has never been an issue.

The brainwashing is real.

Edited July 13, 2020 by Anton9

[spidermike007]

Wondering if they did an exam with a check of his medical history, prior to quarantine? Looks like this may be a case of neglect, indifference and incompetence. Not surprising for this administration. 

[Anton9]

Just now, spidermike007 said:

Wondering if they did an exam with a check of his medical history, prior to quarantine? Looks like this may be a case of neglect, indifference and incompetence. Not surprising for this administration. 

Nowadays, al long as it is not Covid related, it seems pretty irrelevant.

[thecyclist]

1 hour ago, CALSinCM said:

In the US and UK - Covid death.
In Thailand - Death by myocardial infarcation

 

Or suicide 

[Paradise Pete]

5 hours ago, ExpatOne said:

The virus has been shown to attack/damage the heart. It also creates blood clots. Pretty sure this is a COVID death.

It doesn't say that he had the virus, just that he was in quarantine. "Pretty sure" seems like a stretch.

[Tongjaw]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Wondering if they did an exam with a check of his medical history, prior to quarantine? Looks like this may be a case of neglect, indifference and incompetence. Not surprising for this administration. 

Do the authorities in any country give everyone who arrives a full medical or check their medical records? The answer is No. 

As the man didn’t complain of any illness when he arrived the authorities would have no reason to conduct a full medical examination. Therefore your comments stating, neglect, indifference and incompetence are totally unfounded and absurd. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

20 hours ago, CALSinCM said:

In the US and UK - Covid death.
In Thailand - Death by myocardial infarcation

 

20 hours ago, ExpatOne said:

The virus has been shown to attack/damage the heart. It also creates blood clots. Pretty sure this is a COVID death.

There is a monetary (and political) incentive in the USA to class them as COVID19 deaths, which is why there seem to be no more deaths from the flu or pneumonia, etc. USA doesn't test as long as they can classify some symptom to  COVID 19.

 

In Thailand only it behooves the Government to classify it as a non-Covid death. However, in this case since the man was in quarantine it wouldn't have hurt the in country statistics. I think I read someplace that those in quarantine are tested regularly for the virus (or for sure when they are first interred); therefore, it's most likely that Thailand is right to categorize this as a 'Heart Attack'.

[spidermike007]

14 hours ago, Tongjaw said:

Do the authorities in any country give everyone who arrives a full medical or check their medical records? The answer is No. 

As the man didn’t complain of any illness when he arrived the authorities would have no reason to conduct a full medical examination. Therefore your comments stating, neglect, indifference and incompetence are totally unfounded and absurd. 

Incorrect. An arriving passenger and one found positive for Covid and sent to state quarantine are two entirely categories. Surely you must understand that? A more in depth medical background check would be quite appropriate for the latter. 

[Mr Meeseeks]

23 hours ago, KKr said:

The article does not mention what kind of ambulance was used, in case the Ambulance is not kitted out with oxygen or AED, going to the nearest Medical facility sounds like a logical decision to me.

Also, in case you are not familiar with Chonburi, there are some very good hospitals.

Far too late for an AED in the ambulance.

 

AED and CPR should be utilised during initial response which should be immediate. An AED and full first aid kit including medical oxygen should be recoverable to the patient as soon as possible.

 

If CPR is not applied within 4 minutes the patient will be dead in 5 due to lack of oxygen to the brain. 

 

CPR and AED should be maintained until the patient recovers and starts breathing again, and then should be placed in the recovery position or, until the ambulance arrives if the patient is still unresponsive.  

 

Govt. facilities such as state quarantine should have these readily available with trained first responders on site at all times.

 

But... I have absolutely no faith in Thai first aid training nor emergency response and this is from a long and in-depth experience and as such I use a farang to come and train our staff in CPR and AED and with mock drills.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Mr Meeseeks

[Tongjaw]

14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Incorrect. An arriving passenger and one found positive for Covid and sent to state quarantine are two entirely categories. Surely you must understand that? A more in depth medical background check would be quite appropriate for the latter. 

Still no idea what your talking about. Where in the OP did it state the man was found positive for Covid? So why would a more in-depth medical check be required from the authorities?