Popular Post Stevemercer Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 I recently went to Immigration to apply for my next 12 month marriage extensions. Like the OP I thought I was prepared and had even brought up a few back-up copies, just in case. I had recently got a new passport and had my (then) current stamp transferred to my new passport. In doing that I had had to provide copies of every page of my old passport. I asked myself whether they would again ask for copies of every page of my old passport when I applied for my marriage extension on my new passport? Anyway, I made copies in case they asked. And, yes, they did want them. The immigration lady was a bit surprised when I pulled them out. However, she said they were in the wrong format (she wanted 4 pages per page). She took my old passport away and had a lad make a copy to her specifications. It cost 50 Baht. Anyway, she accepted the application. We expressed our 'appreciation' and she waived the home visit. She personally called when the application had been approved and I went down to get the stamp. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 hours ago, greenmonkey said: Until next year my old foe! Or a knock on your door next week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1FinickyOne Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 21 hours ago, pineapple01 said: No wonder i feel sorry for Immigration. I just don't get these posts like Imm is some sort of enemy... yes, in my first few years I might forget this or that but they were always so helpful and nice and really, how much problem is it to make a couple of copies of something... they even helped me out a couple of times when I badly screwed up... and some of the people start telling stories of cursing out the IO??? What is the point of that other than to guarantee they will make your life difficult... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldie Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 59 minutes ago, Tuvoc said: Stories like this really make me want to go for the Thai Elite, where all you have to do is present your passport and that is basically it. Yeah it is money down the toilet, but for 20 years of hassle-free dealings weistth immigration, you could argue it is money well spent. The immigration didn't create any hassle. Just the applicant. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, kenk24 said: I just don't get these posts like Imm is some sort of enemy... yes, in my first few years I might forget this or that but they were always so helpful and nice and really, how much problem is it to make a couple of copies of something... they even helped me out a couple of times when I badly screwed up... and some of the people start telling stories of cursing out the IO??? What is the point of that other than to guarantee they will make your life difficult... Some falong's think they are superior and those at immigration should look up at them. They forget whose in charge and act stupid. I treat them with respect like I do most people. The exception is the British guy that was in front of me at Big C arguing with the cashier because his potatoes didn't have a price sticker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 19 hours ago, problemfarang said: Well i know how relax and happy you are and im happy you are ok now. And no more stress or headaches. But... i dont think you beat them. At the end of day they got what they want.. more photos.. more copies.. But yes you did it in 1 day. I dont know wht its a common thing with the IO that they really dont want to do it at your first visit. There must be something with it. Maybe they want to check like you can do it or not. If you made fake things maybe you cannot do again or likewise. Dont know. But yes they have this habbit of not to do at the first visit. Im going to khon kaen from bangkok tjis monday to extend my expired non o and im doing it just because nonthaburi IO refused to do it for some reason that i dont know... im full ready and sure i have all the paper work.. but im also sure they will find something and send me back to bangkok and do new things... Wish me luck, i hope i can beat them too. 555 Typical Thai IOs, give them 100 papers and they will ask for 101. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 17 hours ago, trucking said: Yes. Name names. There is currently a name and shame on dual pricing venues. About time there was one on immigration offices. Name the ones who don't play fair or are corrupt. There should be quite a long list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I have been getting extensions for ten years many years on my own and the last few with an agent and never had the problems people talk about here. I guess if you have made up your mine to have problems your going to have them. Good luck next year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, bolt said: I now give people an excuse to say I’m wrong and they’re right, I tell them I’m sorry and go about my business. If you try to embarrass them in front or everyone, they will continue to dig and dig until the find something, or make something up. Is your life really so dull that this is an important part of it?? Let them feel powerful, they usually stop looking after that, and you can walk away knowing you’ve won without them even knowing it, surely that’s a real victory. When you win, the best thing is to let them know how happy you are about it. The only way you let anyone win is if it is going to be to your advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peter Denis Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, checkered flag said: Some falong's think they are superior and those at immigration should look up at them. They forget whose in charge and act stupid. I treat them with respect like I do most people. The exception is the British guy that was in front of me at Big C arguing with the cashier because his potatoes didn't have a price sticker. I don't subscribe to the view that all thai IOs are trying to make life as difficult as possible for farang applicants. My own IO (SiSaKet) is living proof of the opposite > strict but fair, friendly and helpful. But I will not deny that there are several offices with 'rotten apples in the basket'. The many horror-stories about applicants whose applications were refused for petty reasons or that were forced to come back to meet 'last minute' made-up additional requirements are testimony to this. And for sure not all of these horror-stories are due to Dumb Farangs not preparing well in advance or feeling superior and treating the immigration desk-officers without respect. Of course your views are colored by your experience, but individual experience is not the One and Only Truth. The TVF members that defend Immigration no matter what, are as wrong as the ones bashing Immigration as a club of perverted money-grabbing xenofobic sadists. Edited July 18, 2020 by Peter Denis 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Tuvoc said: Stories like this really make me want to go for the Thai Elite, where all you have to do is present your passport and that is basically it. Yeah it is money down the toilet, but for 20 years of hassle-free dealings with immigration, you could argue it is money well spent. You can have hassle free dealings by using an agent at a small fraction of the price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berrec Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Yep, same old same old IM game...............played it every year until I had a gutful.................now I just pay a visa agent and "Bob's your Uncle" every year now. Best investment I ever made................just a few less rounds of golf for a month and a few less tips for the bar girls for the month............ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 To be honestly, the IO I visit every year gives never problems to me. No, I don't tell you which one but have to mention a few months ago somebody here on TV shows the supplies you need for an retirement extension and just to make sure I made a copy of it. But before I use this I never got any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max69xl Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 17 hours ago, EricTh said: @greenmonkey 400K is peanuts, you should try changing it into 800K for retirement. The 'battle' is fiercer for retirees. It is more difficult to maintain a minimum balance of 800K. Nowadays, they even require one year bank statement in addition to bank book which essentially does the same thing. I did my 1 year extension at Jomtien Immigration in May. I'm using the money in the bank method. I just copied the pages in my bank book 1 year back to the last 1 year extension which I highlighted with a marker. Not a word about a bank statement. Just keep the bank book updated. That's what a lot of people don't get, then you'll need a bank statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I know I have had an oops on almost every occasion of extending. But same as the OP I have had some a ha's as well. Having every page of the passport that has Thai stamps in them is their stupid way of wasting paper and wasting time. We can only hope that the nasty IO's get paper cuts on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Max69xl said: I did my 1 year extension at Jomtien Immigration in May. I'm using the money in the bank method. I just copied the pages in my bank book 1 year back to the last 1 year extension which I highlighted with a marker. Not a word about a bank statement. Just keep the bank book updated. That's what a lot of people don't get, then you'll need a bank statement. We kept the bank book updated alright but they still require bank statement which is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricTh Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, checkered flag said: I did mine based on monthly foreign transfers (65K+) and it was very easy, as usual. I've seen people turned away but they were not following the easy rules. If someone can't handle simple paperwork, it would be better to use an agent. That said Non O Marriage requires more, approval from Bangkok and in some cases a home visit. BTW Married with a green card in US get home visits ,sometimes and grilled about being married. In the US I had several employees that reported this to me. I guess they need to make sure it's not just a marriage of convenience, same here ( i suppose). Monthly foreign transfer is even easier because you need to only keep a max of 65k at one time. I saw many people recycle their money although they lose exchange rate with every international transfer. Try keeping a min of 800k stuck in your bank account for a change. Edited July 18, 2020 by EricTh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterphuket Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Peter Denis said: Ah yes, the roguest of rogue offices! And I wonder why? Are this people who are working there so frustrated that for that reason they want to take out there aggression, or is it envy or jealousy? I really don't understand this. Perhaps the officer in charge? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Well done but it is truly disgusting that you have an adversarial relationship with the immigration department in Thailand. I have relocated to the Philippines six years ago for precicely this reason. I have been treated with consideration and respect always here in the Philippines 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why Me Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 31 minutes ago, rosst said: Well done but it is truly disgusting that you have an adversarial relationship with the immigration department in Thailand. The OP clearly is having a bit of fun. It's hardly adversarial if it's about 1 hr. of "dueling" each year. 32 minutes ago, rosst said: I have relocated to the Philippines six years ago for precicely this reason. From Thailand? Yeow, sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 hours ago, checkered flag said: Some falong's think they are superior and those at immigration should look up at them. They forget whose in charge and act stupid. I treat them with respect like I do most people. The exception is the British guy that was in front of me at Big C arguing with the cashier because his potatoes didn't have a price sticker. hard to imagine... and why treat someone poorly who has power to make your life miserable... I have always found them pleasant. though it sounds like I would not have enjoyed the potato arguer... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puck2 Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 14 times I had to do my extension of stay in IO of Mae Hong Son. During this time only 2 officers reliable for my request. Every time excellent service, done within 15 - 30 minutes after arrivel. Forgot a copy of xxxx, no problem, the officer printed it. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captnhoy Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Greenmonkey I salute you! I would have bet that you experienced this in Ranong. I renewed 6 consecutive years and the 7th year while in dealing with the IO I gave up, she won, I said never mind and left. So for the past 8 years I have been 6 months in Farangland and 6 months in Thailand on METV. Life is SO much better. However the office in Hua Hin is the best I have ever dealt with and I probably would have stayed full time if I had that experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oldie Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 6 hours ago, possum1931 said: Typical Thai IOs, give them 100 papers and they will ask for 101. Have been here for almost 30 years. The immigration I met aways did a great job. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Please do not start a sentence with 'so'- it's like so, like Millenial, like I renewed my retirement permit, (not VISA yesterday within 10 minutes. You have beaten nothing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimo Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) On 7/17/2020 at 6:34 PM, ukrules said: The level of 'service' they provide is disgusting. Green Monkey 3 - 0 immigration ( Love it !!! ) Edited July 18, 2020 by Stimo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 It's guys like him who get f.. around because most are breaking the law by using an agent. I would guess only 10 to 15% of us actually do it legally. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Thats a rare reason. I moved to the Philippeans because of Emigration and piece of paper or couldn't follow simple instruction like normal Folk. Thats a place where the Im Nearly Skint go. I call BS on that reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkered flag Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Oldie said: Have been here for almost 30 years. The immigration I met aways did a great job. Sounds like you know how to complete simple paperwork and make required copies. Also, you probably don't enter the office with an attitude. Therefore, quite easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineapple01 Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Always pop in and ask the question. Has the Boss made any changes to last years requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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