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I am planning on starting to ask if there will be another extension towards the end of August. Around the 10th of September I plan on complaining that the Thai Immigration has not yet announced anythi

First I'll wait for the official announcement. Then I'll reevaluate my stay in Thailand and check what options I will have.  

I am not trying to 'justify my interpretation', but simply providing options based on reports from other IOs, e.g. SiSaKet IO, that confirmed that an application for the 60-day extension of stay will

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On 7/21/2020 at 4:25 PM, ubonjoe said:

I cannot recall any report of the extension being backdated.

Submitted 60 day extension today at Sri Ratcha today and it wasn't backdated.

They just refused to consider it as it was more than 60 days since permission to stay expired.

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21 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Submitted 60 day extension today at Sri Ratcha today and it wasn't backdated.

They just refused to consider it as it was more than 60 days since permission to stay expired.

Thanks for the report.

Two questions:

1 - Did that 60-day permission to stay start from 27 September (till 24 November)?

   > According to the info-graphic all extensions of stay provided during the Amnesty would start on that 27 September date.

2 - Did Sri Ratcha IO confirm that they would handle your application for the 1-year extension of stay end November when the 60-day extension of stay is due to expire?

  > That would give you ample time to meet the two-month seasoning of your finances as required when applying for that 1-year extension of stay.

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16 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

Thanks for the report.

Two questions:

1 - Did that 60-day permission to stay start from 27 September (till 24 November)?

   > According to the info-graphic all extensions of stay provided during the Amnesty would start on that 27 September date.

2 - Did Sri Ratcha IO confirm that they would handle your application for the 1-year extension of stay end November when the 60-day extension of stay is due to expire?

  > That would give you ample time to meet the two-month seasoning of your finances as required when applying for that 1-year extension of stay.

Wrong on both counts.

1 - 60 day extensions would be backdated to previous permission to stay and can only be done if days remaining. The only pre dated extensions from 27th Sept would be medical or letter from embassy, I pointed out that the announcement was extremely misleading and many were confused, but she just shrugged.

2 - Immigration said I have until 26th Sept to come up with something else, only option being 1 year extension. The problem being I cannot renew my driving licence which expires tomorrow, DLT have said I must have a valid stamp.

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18 hours ago, sandyf said:

Submitted 60 day extension today at Sri Ratcha today and it wasn't backdated.

They just refused to consider it as it was more than 60 days since permission to stay expired.

 

18 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

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1 - Did that 60-day permission to stay start from 27 September (till 24 November)?

   > According to the info-graphic all extensions of stay provided during the Amnesty would start on that 27 September date.

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57 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Wrong on both counts.

1 - 60 day extensions would be backdated to previous permission to stay and can only be done if days remaining. The only pre dated extensions from 27th Sept would be medical or letter from embassy, I pointed out that the announcement was extremely misleading and many were confused, but she just shrugged.

2 - Immigration said I have until 26th Sept to come up with something else, only option being 1 year extension. The problem being I cannot renew my driving licence which expires tomorrow, DLT have said I must have a valid stamp.

 

So it seems that SriRatcha (your local IO) does NOT follow the procedure as addressed on the InfoGraphic Announcement [see attached below0, in which IO explicitly states that any extensions applied for during the Amnesty period (1 August till 26 September) will start on 27 September.  This in order to avoid overcrowding of IOs by people applying only last minute, as the 60-days extension of stay normally starts on day of application. 

There are also some reports of IOs confirming that they will do exactly that.

See also the response of UJ attached below.

If your SriRatcha office is adamant in not wanting to provide you the 60-day extension of stay (because back-dating it makes no sense), it's probably time for your to consider a temporary administrative relocation to a province with a less rogue IO office.

 

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24 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

 

 

 

So it seems that SriRatcha (your local IO) does NOT follow the procedure as addressed on the InfoGraphic Announcement [see attached below0, in which IO explicitly states that any extensions applied for during the Amnesty period (1 August till 26 September) will start on 27 September.  This in order to avoid overcrowding of IOs by people applying only last minute, as the 60-days extension of stay normally starts on day of application. 

There are also some reports of IOs confirming that they will do exactly that.

See also the response of UJ attached below.

If your SriRatcha office is adamant in not wanting to provide you the 60-day extension of stay (because back-dating it makes no sense), it's probably time for your to consider a temporary administrative relocation to a province with a less rogue IO office.

 

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I posted what i was told, accept it for what it is.

Trying to justify your interpretation is not going to change anything.

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41 minutes ago, sandyf said:

I posted what i was told, accept it for what it is.

Trying to justify your interpretation is not going to change anything.

I am not trying to 'justify my interpretation', but simply providing options based on reports from other IOs, e.g. SiSaKet IO, that confirmed that an application for the 60-day extension of stay will be provided with 27 Sept as start-date (as the InfoGraphic mentions).

Good to know the SriRatcha stance that they will not do this (it confirms the rogue status of that office).

 

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21 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

I am not trying to 'justify my interpretation', but simply providing options based on reports from other IOs, e.g. SiSaKet IO, that confirmed that an application for the 60-day extension of stay will be provided with 27 Sept as start-date (as the InfoGraphic mentions).

Good to know the SriRatcha stance that they will not do this (it confirms the rogue status of that office).

 

It is only a few days since the new announcement came into effect so there cannot have been many reports from other IOs, only time will tell on that. I seem to remember that some weeks back that someone reported about 60 day extension being backdated so it is not the first time it has been brought up.

I should also point out that income transfers were only introduced in Jan 2019, about 15 months before the lockdown. In that short period how many members do you think have gone from a 12 month extension to a ME Non O and back to a 12 month extension, very few I would suggest, in fact I could very well be the first. Anyone on a non O before the lockdown would have probably let the visa run it's course and I doubt that many would have converted during the amnesty.

It has always been the case that converting from a visa to extension would be seen as the first time in respect of 90 day reporting but that may not be the same for income. Although I didn't like the answer, having had a bank account in Thailand for over 20 years I have to agree with immigration, there is little justification for exemption from the 12 month transfer requirement.

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So many conflicting opinions based on varying experiences it's no wonder people are not sure what to do for the best.

 

For myself , I have a valid Non O based on marriage issued at Savannakhet that will expire on September 15th.

 

However my last border bounce 90 days entry expired on June the 6th. Obviously , a back dated 60 day extension would be utterly useless to me.

 

I was planning to visit local immigration around September 10th to apply for either a 60 day extension to visit wife ...or .... the full 1 year extension based on marriage. ( by then I will have three 40,000 transfers

from the UK into my Bangkok Bank account ) . Not yet decided which of the 2 options will be better.

 

I don't think the land borders are going to be open by September 26th. Even if they are the old border bouncing method will be much changed with Covid free certificates and insurance likely to be a requirement.  Therefore , to keep hanging on , hoping that by doing so things will normalize and you will be able to exit , get a new visa , and simply re enter is IMO ,  a forlorn hope.

 

With that in mind , going for the 60 day extension in order to buy more time seems like delaying the inevitable , namely, applying for the 1 year extension.

 

Of course.....if the Covid situation deteriorates rather than improves then everything could be up in the air again so have to see what happens in the next 6 weeks.

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7 hours ago, trucking said:

I don't think the land borders are going to be open by September 26th. Even if they are the old border bouncing method will be much changed with Covid free certificates and insurance likely to be a requirement.  Therefore , to keep hanging on , hoping that by doing so things will normalize and you will be able to exit , get a new visa , and simply re enter is IMO ,  a forlorn hope.

 

With that in mind , going for the 60 day extension in order to buy more time seems like delaying the inevitable , namely, applying for the 1 year extension.

I would agree with that.

I had to do something because my driving licence expires tomorrow. I went to DLT last week but they didn't want to know, said come back when you have a valid stamp.

I tried the 60 day as I thought that would be an immediate fix but following the kickback from immigration I will go back on Monday for a 12 month extension. The problem now is I do not hold out much hope on getting the licence renewed while under consideration.

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