Immigration officials in Nonthaburi accused of asking for a 20,000 Baht bribe

[anchadian]

Richard Barrow in Thailand 

 

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Immigration officials in Nonthaburi accused of asking for a 20,000 Baht bribe in return for issuing a Non B visa for working #Thailand

 

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https://mgronline.com/crime/detail/9630000074649

[DrJack54]

Rogue office. One of the worst. If I dealt with that office I would set up Sham address and deal with CW.

[AndyPa]

The end of visa agents.

Edited July 21, 2020 by AndyPa

[jackdd]

This will teach them... not.

In the future they will offer any services which they consider special exclusively through agents and no longer directly.

[male expat]

other Immigration offices aleady switched to Visa agencies. In Europe this is called money laundering.

[moontang]

Never had a problem in Nonthaburi, and am able to get there for 10 THB.  1000 times better than CM.  Haven't been to CW in 22 years of coming here, but at best case, it is way out of the way, and often mobbed.  Nonth wouldn't do my extension 42 days early, without flight itenerary, but that is simply their rule that was not needed to be modified.  Shame on anyone, who would take a job, where they are expected to fight the red tape on their own.

[Mavideol]

not only Nonthaburi office, any and all IMO offices in Thailand ask for bribes, some guys I know paid IMO office down south 50K piece (they were 3 of them) to change tourist visa into work visa

[4MyEgo]

Corruption in Thailand, oh dear, oh my, I suppose if it's cheap enough for the farang, he will pay it as opposed to having to produce things like a bank account with the readily available funds in it to get their extensions, that in itself says a lot, but hey, if immigration are providing the extensions and the farangs are paying the price for not having the funds in the account, well that seems like a marriage to me, i.e. until things go wrong and there is a divorce down the track ????

 

[CorpusChristie]

2 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Corruption in Thailand, oh dear, oh my, I suppose if it's cheap enough for the farang, he will pay it as opposed to having to produce things like a bank account with the readily available funds in it to get their extensions, that in itself says a lot, but hey, if immigration are providing the extensions and the farangs are paying the price for not having the funds in the account, well that seems like a marriage to me, i.e. until things go wrong and there is a divorce down the track ????

 

Some immigration offices are now asking for bribes even when you make a completely legitimate application . 14 K for giving you a stamp that you are entitled to get 

[4MyEgo]

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

Some immigration offices are now asking for bribes even when you make a completely legitimate application . 14 K for giving you a stamp that you are entitled to get 

That is crazy.........

 

Fortunately for me I have a good immigration office, they always sort my paperwork and photocopy any additional stuff needed, like bank book pages, albeit it we try every year to get it to perfection, they go out of their way, and have only every asked for 1,500 baht for petrol 3 hour return trip to come out to the property and another time when the wife forgot the photos on a Friday, the guy said you can LINE them to me and I will send it in on Monday for you, 500 baht will cover it, wife wanted to drive back home and come back on Monday, I said you are kidding me, a 3 hour return trip plus petrol, hardly worth the bother, give him 500 baht and send him the photo's, another time I gave one of the guys 300 baht when I collected my extension a month later as he went out of his way to correct a few things with my application, to which he appreciated.

 

The above said, it's really chicken feed for what we get, including the fee, but as soon as someone tries to put it on big, they will get an ugly surprise. 

[time2093]

1 hour ago, male expat said:

other Immigration offices aleady switched to Visa agencies. In Europe this is called money laundering.

In Thailand its, called greasing the wheel if you want it to go forward for you.

[jackdd]

14 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

and have only every asked for 1,500 baht for petrol 3 hour return trip to come out to the property

You realize that this money goes in their pocket? The government pays their fuel.

It looks like every time they ask you for money you pay. Don't be surprised if in the future they create arbitrary problems with your application and offer to make this problem go away for a fee. People like you are the reason why many people have problems with legit requests.

Edited July 21, 2020 by jackdd

[EbhB]

...going rate, yes?

 

Guess a certain visa amnesty is connected to this now happening directly and not exclusively through agents...

[Dumbastheycome]

If all legit complaints  were reported via the  number advertised in  every Immigration Office  the apparent volume of accusations might have  some positive effect!.

Given there seem to be so many complaints about approaches  to  various offices resulting in said complaint but  as  of today have immunity against need to proceed why  not lodge  objection?

Or is the  truth of it that  many are attempting  dodgy circumvention but want it on the  cheap? Only  you  know.!

[4MyEgo]

8 minutes ago, jackdd said:

You realize that this money goes in their pocket? The government pays their fuel.

It looks like every time they ask you for money you pay. Don't be surprised if in the future they create arbitrary problems with your application and offer to make this problem go away for a fee. People like you are the reason why many people have problems with legit requests.

Like I said, it's chicken feed, and in 5 years of doing this it has cost me very little, i.e. 1,500 for the first year and from what I hear most offices do this, 3rd year wife forgot photos so the 500 baht saved me a 3 hour return trip on Monday, and the 300 baht tip I gave the guy last year, he didn't ask for it, I think things are under control, and won't blow up with this office, like I said if they try it on, it will be their last.

 

The above said, Thailand is full of corruption, you cannot stamp it out, just look at the police force, useless lot they are and the government won't change things, so learn to go with the flow, but don't be a mug, chicken feed it is ????

 

Edited July 21, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[spiekerjozef]

2 hours ago, anchadian said:

Immigration officials in Nonthaburi accused of asking for a 20,000 Baht bribe

Why you call it a bribe? They've done a service for you that normally would be very difficult to get done.

You should be happy and thank them for that excellent convenient service.

[DrJack54]

Just now, spiekerjozef said:

Why you call it a bribe? They've done a service for you that normally would be very difficult to get done.

You should be happy and thank them for that excellent convenient service.

Rubbish. 

They do the same even if you meet requirements.

 

[CorpusChristie]

5 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

Why you call it a bribe? They've done a service for you that normally would be very difficult to get done.

You should be happy and thank them for that excellent convenient service.

I do believe that we are talking about people whos papers are all in order and there shouldnt be any difficulty in getting visas .

  I am legally entitled to get an Ed Visa issued from within Thailand , but the I.O refuse to carry out their task unless they get a bribe 

[steven100]

at the end of the day what do you want  ?   this kinda thing annoys me because you complain but you like cheap fines ... backhanders,  you like being treated with less money ... you are a cheap charlie imo and that's why Thai's and Thai IO despise farang.   imo  

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, steven100 said:

at the end of the day what do you want  ?   this kinda thing annoys me because you complain but you like cheap fines ... backhanders,  you like being treated with less money ... you are a cheap charlie imo and that's why Thai's and Thai IO despise farang.   imo  

Would be be happy to pay a person 14 K to do his job, a job that he is already getting paid to do ?

14 K simply to put a stamp in your passport, a stamp you are entitled to get without the 14 K?

[Pilotman]

2 hours ago, male expat said:

other Immigration offices aleady switched to Visa agencies. In Europe this is called money laundering.

In Thailand it's called sensible. 

[pixelaoffy]

Ah all the farang who put 400/800k in an account to get visa get pissy because other folk can't and use an agency! It ain't gonna stop! Provides too much income for so many !

[Pilotman]

The fact is, we will all end up using government registered agents here for our extensions and new visa requirements, it will eventfully become a official requirement.  The sooner it happens the better, stop all this whining from people who don't seem to understand how it all works here. 

[Boomer6969]

3 hours ago, AndyPa said:

The end of visa agents.

The might have been dobbed in by an agent who got urinated off being bypassed.

Edited July 21, 2020 by Boomer6969

[Susco]

5 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

3 hours ago, AndyPa said:

The end of visa agents.

The might have been dobbed in by an agent who got urinated off being bypassed.

Visa agents are owned by the corrupt immigration.  An IO can determine by a simple look at your visa stamp which agent you used

[beano2274]

Never had problems at Nonthaburi during my time there, the one eyed IO was always clued up and helpful, the older woman IO was also very good and also helpful.

 

[DrJack54]

Just now, beano2274 said:

Never had problems at Nonthaburi during my time there, the one eyed IO was always clued up and helpful, the older woman IO was also very good and also helpful.

 

Would help if you mention your extension.

Just a guess non o extension based on retirement.

[trucking]

I was in Nonthaburi Immigration once asking for confirmation of address. They wouldn't help me but while I was there a falang turned up in his car and carried in two crates of beer and two of coca cola. He then joined a short queue to ask for something or other ? ?

 

Our then local Amper at Bangyai would not marry us without an under table bung.

 

We sent our witnesses home and took a taxi to Bang Rak with the same correct documents and were married within an hour although we did have to slip two of the girls working there 200 baht to act as witnesses to our genuine relationship.

 

Amazing Thailand

 

[Pilotman]

45 minutes ago, Susco said:

Visa agents are owned by the corrupt immigration.  An IO can determine by a simple look at your visa stamp which agent you used

Nonsense, it's a standard stamp. 

[Susco]

Just now, Pilotman said:

Nonsense, it's a standard stamp. 

I have a "friend" who is a plain clothes immigration officer, he looked at the retirement extension stamp in my foreign friend passport, and straight away told us which agency had arranged that extension.

 

Over to you