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Britain nears abandoning Brexit trade deal hope - The Telegraph

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Just now, Rookiescot said:

Well thats that settled then. A straw poll of your friends and family clearly demonstrates that your master plan is infallible.

Despite this irrefutable evidence I do have a nagging suspicion most people will buy the stuff thats cheaper.

I agree,

Many wealthy middle class people with money to burn will 'Buy British', 'organic', 'Fair Trade', etc.

But everyone else buys the cheaper choices, and I'm thinking COVID will remove most of that excess money from the middle class.

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9 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

So you live off your earnings as a buy to let renter. No exploitation going on there then eh? Cheap mortgages and over inflated rents. Making enough each month to both pay the mortgage AND cream off a salary from it.

Right so we are agreed that farms and industries should be forced, by the government, to pay a decent wage to those working in the fruit and veg industry.

Then people will take the jobs because they want to. Not forced at all.

Slight problem there though. Imported fruit and veg. Even after tariffs have been applied they are going to be far cheaper than domestic produce.

OK we can raise the tariffs. No problem. But at that point you are now veering off WTO rules and there are penalties for that. Accusations of protectionism. Trade embargoes. Trade wars. Huge inflation while the economy is shrinking.

You see how these things snowball?

Yeah voting for Brexit has done wonders for the UK and will continue to damage it for decades to come. 

the damage to britain has already been done and drastic changes are coming which would not have been possible while shackled to the eu.foreign aid is likely to be axed,and there is a growing feeling of nationalism with incidents occurring which are not being reported by mainstream media,this will only worsen as the recession,(depression?) śtarts to bite.

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9 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Plenty of homeless right now in Pattaya. Vast swathes of the population work for 300 Baht a day in the factories, shops, restaurants etc. Try building a house and feeding yourself and your kids on 300 Baht a day.

 

The point about 'forced labour' was RookieScots not mine, I was simply playing Devils Advocate. He thinks the definition of forced labour is that you have to work to pay the bills. If you don't work you can't pay the bills so you are "forced" to work and therefore you are in forced labour. According to him, 90% of the world's population are in forced labour and should just be handed more benefits so they don't face the hardship of having to work for a living 😆.

they don,t work they don,t eat,so they have a choice of working or starving to death,link.....check out the good work farangs are doing in pattaya giving out food parcels.

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2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Lying, cheating, charlatan, an apology of a man...no more than a third rate journalist and chancer.

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thought you were  talking about jimmy clitheroe.

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“The EU continues to insist that we must agree on difficult areas in the negotiations, such as EU state aid, before any further work can be done in any other area of the negotiations, including on legal texts, and that makes it very difficult to make progress,” the spokesman said.

 
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“We would instead like to settle the simplest issues first, in order to build momentum in the talks, as time is short for both sides.”

The EU has consistently said it wants to see the contentious issues of fisheries policy and state aid settled up front.

He added: “The UK’s future subsidy arrangements are a matter for the British people and parliament, not the European Union.”

Brussels regards state aid constraints as a key aspect of ensuring a level playing field, so that UK businesses cannot unfairly undercut their EU counterparts.

 

 

which a no deal will ensure happens and they lose in the end as their cars stack up in german fields ,and french bacon rots in the sheds

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On 9/2/2020 at 8:47 PM, 3NUMBAS said:

All we ever hear about is the way that Barnier, Macron and the EU constantly "rage" about lack of progress in the FTA talks. But again Barnier, Macron and the EU keep demanding that the UK effectively gives up its recently won "sovereignty" and allow the EU unrestricted access to our sovereign territorial waters (without reciprical rights of our boats to fish EU waters), The supremacy of EU law and rules over the UK (without allowing the UK to influence EU rules and Laws), a "level playing field" where the EU make all the rules and rule on UK fiscal policy. Barnier, Macron and the EU are treating the UK and its population purely as a mute subservient vassel state with no meaningful say over its laws, customs, fiscal policy or taxation. In return for this "punishment" the EU also expects the UK to pay it £billions upfront + countless £billions in years to come. The EU is devoid of all reality and respect for the UK's position as an independent sovereign Country.

EU's position is, as you quoted

Britain's position is - none of your business.

How can you expect to negotiate successfully,  when the record show that Britannia doesn't know how to? Taking positions such as 'lets do the easy parts first' will not work, when you have just gutted the simplest of agreements from 2 years ago - namely the Withdrawal Agreement? It is obvious that Boris is in trouble and he is back peddling as fast as he can to placate the 'no deal' hardliners, so that he doesn't suffer Maggie's fate. Remember she has a majority of 100. 'Basil' (I've renamed him) has 80 odd.

On 9/2/2020 at 8:37 PM, 3NUMBAS said:

 

He added: “The UK’s future subsidy arrangements are a matter for the British people and parliament, not the European Union.”

Brussels regards state aid constraints as a key aspect of ensuring a level playing

 

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4 hours ago, paddypower said:

EU's position is, as you quoted

Britain's position is - none of your business.

How can you expect to negotiate successfully,  when the record show that Britannia doesn't know how to? Taking positions such as 'lets do the easy parts first' will not work, when you have just gutted the simplest of agreements from 2 years ago - namely the Withdrawal Agreement? It is obvious that Boris is in trouble and he is back peddling as fast as he can to placate the 'no deal' hardliners, so that he doesn't suffer Maggie's fate. Remember she has a majority of 100. 'Basil' (I've renamed him) has 80 odd.

 

Simplest of agreements - 599 pages - right!

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