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1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

 

 

As far as I'm aware, no city was actually burnt down.

 

Tell that to the people living in Minneapolis. That's the problem. Most the comments on this site are from people overseas who are completely unaware of what is happening. 

 

Meanwhile on local sites like city data you hear from people in the locations being discussed and its alarming. 

 

 

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Congress can't force the Executive Branch to discontinue enforcing federal law and protecting federal assets.  

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2 hours ago, scammed said:

it strikes me as a collaboration between the democrats and the blm,

the blm instills fear and unhappiness through the riots in the US public and that benefit

whomever arent president,

this is why democrats dont want a return to law and order, but instead are actively

preventing law enforcement to act

 
 
 
 

Please show here Democrats are 'actively preventing law enforcement to act". Democrat city administrators don't agree with trump administration's use of federal forces, considered counterproductive, not that they trying to actually prevent law enforcement.

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8 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Tell that to the people living in Minneapolis. That's the problem. Most the comments on this site are from people overseas who are completely unaware of what is happening. 

 

Meanwhile on local sites like city data you hear from people in the locations being discussed and its alarming. 

 

 

A report dated early June below. Has any credible source/s from local law enforcement identified the ongoing participants causing the damage? Were they criminals or politically motivated by the likes of Antifa or?

 

The city of Minneapolis says the looting and property damage that following the death of George Floyd in police custody has caused least $55 million in destruction so far.

 

https://apnews.com/d45e7d7ecc7c9d7dffa1fbec960846fb#:~:text=MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The city,million in destruction so far.

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20 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Please show here Democrats are 'actively preventing law enforcement to act". Democrat city administrators don't agree with trump administration's use of federal forces, considered counterproductive, not that they trying to actually prevent law enforcement.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/defund-police-protests-democrats.html

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59 minutes ago, scammed said:

The link has a paywall block. I assume they are talking to redirecting more money toward social services, education and mental health agencies as police often are required take on the roles due to lack of resources i.e. insufficient funding for the responsible agencies, not actually defunding policing activity. if there are a few democrats who have an aggressive agenda to actually defund policing core activities it will never get enacted - in reality a nonsensical stance to gain a bit of attention.

 

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Can now access your link. In summary concerning Dems political platform on law enforcement>>>

 

 In the end, though, the group’s recommendations to the Biden campaign and the D.N.C.’s platform committee will not include reducing money for law enforcement, according to people familiar with its plans.

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8 minutes ago, simple1 said:

The link has a paywall block. I assume they are talking to redirecting more money toward social services, education and mental health agencies as police often are required take on the roles due to lack of resources i.e. insufficient funding for the responsible agencies, not actually defunding policing activity. if there are a few democrats who have an aggressive agenda to actually defund policing core activities it will never get enacted - in reality a nonsensical stance to gain a bit of attention.

acording to the article, its not 'a few' but near consensus,

rumors has it 97% of democrats are in unanimous sensus, the debate is over

 

nterviews with superdelegates and members of a Biden-Sanders task force found near-unanimous sentiment for redirecting money away from policing, with positions beyond what Joseph R. Biden Jr. has proposed.

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10 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I assume they are talking to redirecting more money toward social services, education and mental health agencies as police often are required take on the roles due to lack of resources i.e. insufficient funding for the responsible agencies, not actually defunding policing activity.

Your assumption is wrong. Scammed is spot on. Here is a brief snippet, funny it is not behind a paywall for me.

 

"I’ve been advocating the abolition of the police for years. Regardless of your view on police power — whether you want to get rid of the police or simply to make them less violent — here’s an immediate demand we can all make: Cut the number of police in half and cut their budget in half. Fewer police officers equals fewer opportunities for them to brutalize and kill people. "

 

 

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1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 

Your assumption is wrong. Scammed is spot on. Here is a brief snippet, funny it is not behind a paywall for me.

 

"I’ve been advocating the abolition of the police for years. Regardless of your view on police power — whether you want to get rid of the police or simply to make them less violent — here’s an immediate demand we can all make: Cut the number of police in half and cut their budget in half. Fewer police officers equals fewer opportunities for them to brutalize and kill people. "

 

 

Your post above represents a minority POV, not the Dems actual law enforcement policy platform for the election as below. if it's OK to misrepresent actual Dems policy as a matter of opinion, as does trump, so be it, but to repeat...

 

In the end, though, the group’s recommendations to the Biden campaign and the D.N.C.’s platform committee will not include reducing money for law enforcement, according to people familiar with its plans.

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7 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

<SNIP> funny it is not behind a paywall for me <SNIP>

refer my post #37

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Taking money from the police department and giving it to all the social programs in the black community for the people that aren’t working will possibly reduce the number of deaths from policeman killing potentially violent black criminals.
 

But the side effect may be a huge escalation of black on black killing because the police will not have the resources to protect, defend, and prosecute violent offenders. 
But there might be increase in resources, added to the already available unused resources, to improve their education and job skills.

But I think they are saying they want reparations (free money), more than increased in programs aimed at improving their education and work skills.

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On 7/28/2020 at 5:59 PM, stevenl said:

According to the local authorities, who I would trust a lot more than Trump cs and anonymous tvf posters, the feds have done the opposite, only made dying down protests lively again.

In a way I hope they succeed in banning federal police and seeing their cities burn. While it would be tragic for the citizens of those cities, it would prove what happens when law and order is abandoned for political reasons and would focus the minds of the voters on what they want in the future.

 

Although that probably won't happen, I will not be surprised if the working middle class abandons such cities and move to states that do enforce law and order.

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On 7/29/2020 at 12:29 PM, simple1 said:

Your post above represents a minority POV, not the Dems actual law enforcement policy platform for the election as below. if it's OK to misrepresent actual Dems policy as a matter of opinion, as does trump, so be it, but to repeat...

 

In the end, though, the group’s recommendations to the Biden campaign and the D.N.C.’s platform committee will not include reducing money for law enforcement, according to people familiar with its plans.

Irrelevant if the city authorities prevent the police from enforcing law and order ( or denying them non lethal means of protecting themselves ) for political reasons, as has apparently happened in some cases.

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