New French Europe minister - Brexit deal possible but not 'at any price'

[ratcatcher]

5 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Please move this to your favourite Fetish Forum.

I thought this was the Fefish forum?

[transam]

3 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

Actually a creel fisherman with beer instead of bait.

You made a Gaff there.....????

[david555]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Was that pun intended?

you start understanding something just now it seems .... keep on ,  you might become reasonable in playing chess ????

[ratcatcher]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

You made a Gaff there.....????

This is a gaff    This is a pike    

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

you start understanding something just now it seems .... keep on ,  you might become reasonable in playing chess ????

Kings prawn 2 to Kings prawn 3.

[david555]

5 minutes ago, vogie said:

Kings prawn 2 to Kings prawn 3.

let's hope U.K. refuse the fishing ….. thanks... so much for the Financials than …..got it ?….????

Edited July 30, 2020 by david555

[sammieuk1]

20 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Please move this to your favourite Fetish Forum.

It's full of French men right now saying Allo Allo please try later ????

[billd766]

I remember listening to this on the radio back in the 1950s when I was a young lad.

 

https://www.bbc.com/weather/coast_and_sea/shipping_forecast

[transam]

2 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

It's full of French men right now saying Allo Allo please try later ????

You sure......????

 

 

[PETERTHEEATER]

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

France will continue to take a tough line on defending the rights of French fishermen

Defend 'their rights to fish in British waters? Remember Agincourt!

[sammieuk1]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

You sure......????

 

 

How spooky is that everyone is saying good moaning ...they have found the right place for that ????

[3NUMBAS]

they can sail to iceland and rob their fish and get their asses kicked ,the atlantic is big enough

[Opl]

Clement Beaune, 38, the new French Europe Minister

(France has blocked several attempts by European negotiator Michel Barnier to water down its demands for status quo access to British waters.)

https://www.fr24news.com/a/2020/07/brexit-france-is-furious-at-brexit-fishing-as-macron-sets-foot-politics-news.html 

[bannork]

2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

they can sail to iceland and rob their fish and get their asses kicked ,the atlantic is big enough

The UK lost 3-0 to Iceland in the Cod Wars, not helped of course by Iceland threatening to leave NATO. 

 

 

[7by7]

If French fishermen are stopped from fishing in British waters, what will happen to the British fishermen who currently fish in French waters?

 

Remember the so-called Scallop War? 

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French and British fishermen have said they will attend talks to quell a dispute over access to the scallop-rich seabed off the coast of Normandy in northern France.......

 

.......French fisherman are irritated they are banned from fishing scallops during the summer — to protect stocks — while their British counterparts are free from such restrictions.

 

[7by7]

3 hours ago, bannork said:

The UK lost 3-0 to Iceland in the Cod Wars, not helped of course by Iceland threatening to leave NATO. 

 

 

Indeed. 

 

But instead of retraining their employees and converting their fleets to coastal fishing, the British owners simply made the men redundant and scrapped their boats.

 

Which meant that come 1983 and the Common Fisheries Policy, there were very few British boats fishing in British coastal waters. So as the quotas were based on historical catches, most went to the countries who had historically caught more in those waters than the tiny British coastal fleet had.

 

This was later made worse when the British government decided to make licences to fish transferable; i.e. saleable. Many British licence holders sold their licences to foreign owners. 

 

British fishermen were betrayed in the 1970s by the British government and British fleet owners.

 

Privatising the seas: how the UK turned fishing rights into a commodity gives the story in full.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

Indeed. 

 

But instead of retraining their employees and converting their fleets to coastal fishing, the British owners simply made the men redundant and scrapped their boats.

 

Which meant that come 1983 and the Common Fisheries Policy, there were very few British boats fishing in British coastal waters. So as the quotas were based on historical catches, most went to the countries who had historically caught more in those waters than the tiny British coastal fleet had.

 

This was later made worse when the British government decided to make licences to fish transferable; i.e. saleable. Many British licence holders sold their licences to foreign owners. 

 

British fishermen were betrayed in the 1970s by the British government and British fleet owners.

 

Privatising the seas: how the UK turned fishing rights into a commodity gives the story in full.

Misfire there 49. The CFP existed when we joined. There was an immediate impact. 

[Anant72]

Gallophobia seems to thrive here. There is a lot of misunderstanding about Europe from the UK side and a lot of hypocrisy: didn't Bojo write against Brexit?  He is a lousy PM and people will regret having him sooner than later. The Covid 19 crisis in the UK has not been a very shining example of good management to start with. Remember the Cummings episode among others? Wasn't Bojo sick with the Covid because he knew better than wearing a mask? Time will tell how the UK fares once the Covid and the Brexit sagas are over. Those who are happy with Brexit and live here will not have to face the consequences. It is easy to gloat from afar. 

 

[melvinmelvin]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

The UK lost 3-0 to Iceland in the Cod Wars, not helped of course by Iceland threatening to leave NATO. 

 

 

not only that,

UK also thoroughly shamed herself through bullying just about the smallest nation on the planet

 

Edited July 30, 2020 by melvinmelvin
typo

[daejung]

On 7/29/2020 at 3:20 PM, melvinmelvin said:

 

yes, very long coast line, facing the Med and facing the Atlantic

 

the new person seem to think he is something special

will put effort into defeending the rights of French fishermen, what rights do they have in UK?

 

British fishermen export 75% of what they fish. They will have to eat it.

[david555]

23 hours ago, vogie said:

Kings prawn 2 to Kings prawn 3.

Just received this email from U.K. based Financial service SKRILL (copy paste...)Seems they also are convinced a NO DEAL is the outcome ….. oh !! you lucky brexiteers always getting what you wished for … so now start that Barnier  statue as he helped you guy's a lot ….????  to achieve this "no deal"as your wish  ????

 

( BTW Ireland is thanking you for the business opportunity Brexit gave them …)

 

 

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Edited July 31, 2020 by david555

[david555]

12 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

not only that,

UK also thoroughly shamed herself through bullying just about the smallest nation on the planet

 

Traditional habit ….

[transam]

12 minutes ago, david555 said:

Just received this email from U.K. based Financial service SKRILL (copy paste...)Seems they also are convinced a NO DEAL is the outcome ….. oh !! you lucky brexiteers always getting what you wished for … so now start that Barnier  statue as he helped you guy's a lot ….????  to achieve this "no deal"as your wish  ????

 

( BTW Ireland is thanking you for the business opportunity Brexit gave them …)

 

 

 Changes to Skrill services due to Brexit

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We're getting in touch to let you know about a few changes we're making so that we can continue to offer our services in the European Economic Area ("EEA").

As you may know, the United Kingdom left the EU on 31 January 2020 (commonly known as "Brexit"). We've been working hard to minimise the impact of Brexit on our customers, and to make sure Skrill can keep providing services without any interruption.
This is what we are doing:

Our services are currently provided to customers in the EEA through Skrill Limited, a UK Financial Conduct Authority authorised and regulated electronic money institution. In future, we will provide services to our customers in the EEA through a Paysafe Group company based in Ireland, Paysafe Payment Solutions Limited ("PPSL") (company number 626665). PPSL is authorised and regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland as an electronic money institution (register number C184986).

Our terms of use are changing too:

In future, your Skrill Account and the services you receive from Skrill will be provided by PPSL and will be governed by new terms of use between you and PPSL. The new terms of use will largely be the same as your current terms of use with Skrill Limited, and you will receive the same services you do today. Minor changes to the current terms of use are required to reflect the transfer of your Skrill Account to PPSL, which include: 
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[Bannoi]

Cant they just draw a line down the middle of the channel, the French fish their side and the English their side same goes for Netherlands, Ireland etc. or would that be too easy.

 

[david555]

9 hours ago, aixois said:

British fishermen export 75% of what they fish. They will have to eat it.

Nah ….!  they could create a new version of Marmite with it …. ????

[nauseus]

30 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Cant they just draw a line down the middle of the channel, the French fish their side and the English their side same goes for Netherlands, Ireland etc. or would that be too easy.

 

It's there already but apparently not good enough for the French and Dutch (and Spanish). 

[Loiner]

1 hour ago, Bannoi said:

Cant they just draw a line down the middle of the channel, the French fish their side and the English their side same goes for Netherlands, Ireland etc. or would that be too easy.

 

They won’t keep their illegal immigrants on their side of it. Do you honestly expect they would even try to keep their own fish thieves on their side?

[7by7]

17 hours ago, nauseus said:

Misfire there 49. The CFP existed when we joined. There was an immediate impact. 

No misfire; I meant the 1983 regulation. Which is why I said "come 1983 and the Common Fisheries Policy." But maybe that was too subtle for you?

 

The CFP has been reformed, renewed and replaced many times since it's inception; the last such being in 2013.

 

The Common Fisheries Policy: origins and development

Quote

3. CFP regulations and reforms

a. The 1983 regulation

In 1983, after several years of negotiations, the Council adopted Regulation (EEC) No 170/83, establishing the new generation CFP,

 

Common Fisheries Policy HC Deb 31 January 1983 vol 36 cc28-106

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The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Mr. Peter Walker) 

I beg to move, That this House approves the Agreement on the Common Fisheries Policy reached at the Council of Fisheries Ministers meeting on 25th January 1983. 

 

Common Fisheries Policy

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The European Union's Common Fisheries Policy (CFP) was adopted in 1983, with the objective of ensuring that declining fish stocks are exploited responsibly - protecting the environment and the interests of the fishing industry and consumers.

 

A moments research, such as Googling "Common Fishing Policy 1983," would have prevented you from embarrassing yourself by yet again displaying your lack of knowledge.

[7by7]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

They won’t keep their illegal immigrants on their side of it. 

 If what you say is true; explain how come those that make it to the UK are a tiny fraction of those camped out in the Pas de Calais.

 

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

Do you honestly expect they would even try to keep their own fish thieves on their side?

What about the British who fish in French waters, like the scallop fishermen I linked to earlier; are they "fish thieves" too?

 

British who continued to fish while the French were banned by the French government from doing so in order to preserve stocks for the future!

[transam]

The UK gets its waters back, lock, stock and barrel, no ifs, ands or buts... 

 

The UK starts afresh, land and waters, we negotiate from there.

 

Yes the French are unhappy, but the UK's fishing industry was decimated by being in the EU, now its France's time to feel the pinch...

 

Oh, and they should sort all those immigrants out that are camped up on their soil, instead of helping them to get to the UK....