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25 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

'There is not valid reason why there needs to be vote-by-mail' - you mean apart from the worldwide pandemic that has already cost the US 155,000 lives and is not even close to being brought under control because of an incompetant POTUS?

I would say that's a pretty good reason. 

Forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots but what's playing out is only too obvious.

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11 hours ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

who cares how old somebody is if they are capable of guiding the country. We must be doing something right because everybody else cares so much about what we do

Lots of people were interested in the fall of Rome too. 

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5 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

The simple truth is mail-in voting has been going on for decades with negligible cases of fraud. Trump himself has used it https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/07/31/trump-ballot-access-hollywood-2004-dons-take-ctn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/ so it is absolute hypocracy for him to say it's no good now.

What we also know is the GOP benefit massively from low voter turnout, and of course mail-in voting would ensure a much higher amount of voting.

Anyway, it's completely moot as mail-in voting is down to individual states and Trump has no say on whether they can or cannot initiate it.

I'll stand firm and aver that the Dems aren't pushing for mail-in-voting for "the people."  They have other reasons and the pandemic is simply a convenient cover story.  Do you really believe what comes out of a politician's mouth?  LOL  These people are clever.  Ever hear of political strategies?  They'll stop at nothing to get Trump out.

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20 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Blah, blah, blah, you've given no valid reason why states should not protect their citizens from exposure to Covid 19 by encouraging vote by mail.

 

Going to polls on a specific day with specific timelines (a work day and during working hours for most Americans), especially in an election with a number of poll stations closed and a number of poll workers (usually dominated by senior citizens) not showing up, will lead to long lines and impossible challenges to maintaining social distance.  If you go to the supermarket and don't like the looks of the crowds, you can go back another time or another day

 

Vote by mail is safe, easy, and proven.  The only problem is some states are not adequately preparing for a surge of mail in ballots, and Trump is hobbling the postal service to slow down mail delivery.   https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/07/14/postal-service-trump-dejoy-delay-mail/.  The ballot count may not be finished on election day.  However, this doesn't matter:

 

"According to the Federal Election Commission, states have until December 8 to report results. The state electors (the system established by Article II of the Constitution) then meet on December 14 to cast their votes. The new Congress meets on January 6 to certify them."  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-happens-if-the-president-doesnt-accept-the-election-results/

 

The states have until December 8 to certify election results.  Trump may insist on immediate results, if they favor him, but he can't change that.  If the states need a few extra days to count mail in ballots, they can take them.

 

BTW:  Florida, the largest of the swing states, has a Republican government that has spent years making vote by mail easy, especially for (usually conservative) senior citizens.  If Trump somehow manages to de-legitimize mail in voting and let the younger, more liberal, more fearless Florida voters determine who gets the states electoral votes, Trump loses.  

 

As much as I want Trump to lose, I don't want him to lose by preventing people from voting.  I place democracy over party, unlike some people.

"Vote by mail is safe, easy, and proven."

 

You must not have watched the video from CBS News.  LOL  You guys are a riot.

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18 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

"Vote by mail is safe, easy, and proven."

 

You must not have watched the video from CBS News.  LOL  You guys are a riot.

I vote by mail here in South Dakota, you know that bastion of liberal extremism, never seems to be a problem here!

 

So I assume that every State, in your mind at least, that has mail in voting is subject to massive fraud, even if they vote Republican, as obviously mine does?

 

Clearly if we eliminated all those fraudulent mail in GOP votes, the Dem's would win!  

 

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2 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Yeah, I'm well aware that Dems and libs are convinced that Trump is thin-skinned.  Heard it so many times.  From the piece. "If Trump was truly tormented by the Reagan reference, . . . "  Such melodramatic wordsmithing.  LOL  Go ahead and buy their product.

This is a republican run campaign. 

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