Trump raises possibility of delaying November U.S. presidential election

[Tippaporn 7,542]

9 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I have seen you post in previous posts Tippaporn and it always follows exactly the same formula so I think I'm spot on when I say I gaurantee you did not have an opinion of mail-in voting BEFORE Trump made it a thing. And once Trump makes it a thing, you fall obediantly in line like all Trump fans do and try your utmost to justify HIS stance. Facts don't matter to you because you can cherry pick your own facts with that one time you know, when it happened they way Trump says it could happen. Never mind the fact that there's been literally thousands of times when it didn't happen; that one time is good enough for your echo chamber.

There is no point debating you as there often is no point in debating most ardent Trump fans because the world is against you and your beloved leader and  you'll be damned if they get the final word when you've still got breath in your lungs to argue black is white.

It's boring and predictable and I only hope come November we will hear the last of all Trump fans once and for all. 

Happy to hear that you have me pegged, johnny.  Of course you couldn't be more wrong but does that matter to you?  Next you'll be claiming that you know me better than I do.  You could just call me a liar, too.  LOL

[Tippaporn 7,542]

27 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

So you're saying that, according to another poster it has been active in 32 states for years already, it hasn't been tested yet?

As I mentioned in my earlier post, it ain't apples to apples.  Maybe to you it is but not to me.

 

I may as well ask you, too . . . did you watch the video of the CBS News test?  If you did do you comprehend the very real results?  Watch it and then get back to me with your arguments.

 

Edited August 2 by Tippaporn

[Susco 3,271]

11 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Geez, try dealing with the real world instead of an imagined one.

 

Geez, there are a few more hardcore Trump supporters like yourself on this forum, but I usually respect their argumentation, because they post valid sources and are open to a reasonable discussion.

 

I have seen your posts in these threads during the past few months, and the only thing I can conclude from them, is that you are delusional.

[Tippaporn 7,542]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Ah, truth hurting is it. 
 

It might not scare you, but it is another piece of the jigsaw that is in all probability going to lead trump to ignominious defeat this November. 

Go ahead and make sh!t up and believe it's r-e-a-l.  I don't care how you fool yourself.  Your life, not mine.

I’ve not made anything up. Merely referring to the success of this republican campaign against trump. 

"Ah, truth hurting is it."

 

Well, then explain to whom you were referring to?  LOL

 

Was it a success?  And the measurement was?  Maybe they were all patting each other on the back over the fact that Trump responded to them with a tweet so that must have meant success?

[Tippaporn 7,542]

3 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Geez, there are a few more hardcore Trump supporters like yourself on this forum, but I usually respect their argumentation, because they post valid sources and are open to a reasonable discussion.

 

I have seen your posts in these threads during the past few months, and the only thing I can conclude from them, is that you are delusional.

So did I not post a valid source in support of my viewpoint?  Have I not discussed thoroughly my reasoning for my position in a reasoned manner?  Or am I delusional?  LOL

[Tie Dye Samurai 977]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Blah, blah, blah.  I've heard it all before and I think your analyses and rationales are bogus and based on a whole lotta bias.

 

Point still is that there's no valid reason for mail-in-voting.  Going to the polls is no more dangerous than going to the store to buy food.  No difference.  People are allowed to go buy hemp and that's somehow different than going to the polls to vote?  So if there's no difference then why the push for mail-in-voting?  Somebody sees an advantage.  I'm not as naive.  Nowhere close.  Look beyond your nose.

You are INCREDIBLY NAIVE if you think that:

1, Going to the grocery store in America is not dangerous right now, especially if the whole nation went to the same grocery stores at the exact time day and place with a pandemic that is out of control and killing over 150K Americans in 5 months.

2. Equating buying Hemp at a dispensary with voting...Please let me invest in the "hemp store" that gets as much foot traffic as the polls on election day. Talk about printing money...

3. The reason to push mail in voting is so that....and i cant believe August 2020 I am actually having to say this: People should not be congregating in one place at one time, especially for something as populace as THE GENERAL ELECTION when a mail in option is available. Having to make a choice between your right to vote and your own well being should be unacceptable situation in every instance.

 

So yes, I am going to politely but firmly dispute your charge that you are nowhere close to being naive based on your choices, rationales, accusations and examples. I believe you are incredibly close if not spot on.

Edited August 2 by Tie Dye Samurai

[Chomper Higgot 29,659]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

I've posted before that I've heard and read all of the pros and cons.  I've also posted all of my reasoning.  Security is the issue.  It ain't been tested before and first time around things can go horribly wrong.  I wouldn't risk it on one of the most important presidential elections since the last one.

 

Going to vote is no different than going shopping.  The goddamned country has been doing it since it's inception.  So your excuse is what?

 

Mail in votes have been used in every single Federal Election since the Civil War.

 

You claim to have read all the pros and cons yet are seemingly oblivious to the long history of securely voting by post.

[rvaviator 1,336]

On 7/31/2020 at 8:59 AM, AndrewMciver said:

His only hope is a vaccine. 

This is fascinating - In what way have he contributed to creating a vaccine? Does he have a side gig going were he need to wear a white coat?

 

Why should the vaccine have anything do do with him getting re-elected or not ?

 

[Bluespunk 51,561]

45 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

"Ah, truth hurting is it."

 

Well, then explain to whom you were referring to?  LOL

 

Was it a success?  And the measurement was?  Maybe they were all patting each other on the back over the fact that Trump responded to them with a tweet so that must have meant success?

Truth hurting is the explanation I gathered from your extraordinary response to a post of mine. 
 

It was without doubt a success, donations over 20 million now. As the report states, 2 million dollars donated after trump responded.
 

He is being dragged off message and engaging in personal grievance tweeting by this campaign which is one of this republican groups goals. 

Their message is reaching a wider audience because of increased funds and trump’s response to their campaign. 
 

 

So, donations up, more people hearing their message and trump going off topic, yep, that’s a success. 

Edited August 2 by Bluespunk

[GinBoy2 7,724]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

Well, South Dakota has an ID law?  Good on them.  Doesn't go far enough, though.  Should be a form of ID that identifies you as a citizen.  I see "passport" as an acceptable form of ID but a drivers license will do, too.  I was a green card holder and had a drivers license so I could have voted if I wanted to.  I never did, though.  Would have been illegal, but who's to know, right?  My conscience knew.

 

The mass scale you're referring to (number of states) isn't the same as the mass scale I'm referring to.  Not apples to apples.  I'm talking about mass mail-in-ballots.  Did you check out the CBS News link I posted a few hours ago?  Argue with the results.

You do understand that your DL identifies you are citizen or non citizen?

 

The reason that the Trump administration requested DL information as part of the census was for that very fact.

 

When you first get a DL you need to provide evidence of either citizenship or Green Card status. I think I remember you said you used to have a green card which means you needed to provide your green card or I-551 when you went to DMV.

 

We had to do this when my wife went to DMV to get her DL, so you are making up facts to suit your narrative

 

Thats recorded forever

[Chomper Higgot 29,659]

Mail in votes are already used extensively (the President himself and his family all use mail in votes), expatriate Americans here in Thailand and elsewhere use mail in votes.

 

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

 

 

The far bigger issue in this coming election is gerrymandering, and efforts to deny people their vote, the 2018 Mid-Terms gave us all an insight into the organised efforts to deny large numbers of people their vote, expect more of the same in the coming election and don't expect to hear any Trump supporter complaining about it. 

 

 

[GinBoy2 7,724]

Here we go, the hypocrite in chief

 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/07/31/trump-ballot-access-hollywood-2004-dons-take-ctn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

[rabas 4,617]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Mail in votes have been used in every single Federal Election since the Civil War.

 

You claim to have read all the pros and cons yet are seemingly oblivious to the long history of securely voting by post.

Apples and oranges. We've had much worse pandemics than this, the 1918 Spanish flu. Political campaigns were even limited to just 5 days and voter turnout took a massive hit. Yet incredibly they did not resort to mass postal voting. They knew what would happen.  Everyone knows.

[Chomper Higgot 29,659]

13 minutes ago, rabas said:

Apples and oranges. We've had much worse pandemics than this, the 1918 Spanish flu. Political campaigns were even limited to just 5 days and voter turnout took a massive hit. Yet incredibly they did not resort to mass postal voting. They knew what would happen.  Everyone knows.

Apples and Oranges you say, and yet Trump is suggesting delaying the election all together.

 

As for your claim that 'They knew what would happen', its unsubstantiated, as is your 'Everyone knows'

 

 

[rabas 4,617]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Apples and Oranges you say, and yet Trump is suggesting delaying the election all together.

Trump was not president in 1918 (of course) but considering the super low turnout maybe it would have been a good idea. At least everyone would have a fair chance to vote. Some countries did delay votes that year, I believe.

 

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As for your claim that 'They knew what would happen', its unsubstantiated, as is your 'Everyone knows'

Ok, maybe now days some in the US may not know. But historically its well known, which is why everywhere in the world has always protected against voter fraud and election monitoring is so wide spread.

 

No one can feign surprise.