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Drivers with red plates must seek permission from authorities if they want to use the vehicle at night. Cars with red plates cannot be driven out of the province where the vehicle was registered at purchase. Drivers must ask for permission each time they want to travel outside the specified area. Documents must be in order, with the destination and the dates of travel. Red-plated cars are not allowed to use expressways. Drivers of cars with red plates must have all car-related documents, a proper driving licence, and ID card ready for checks at all times. Police officers are authorized to stop any car with a red plate to examine the car and the driver's documents even if no traffic offence has occurred.

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I think the above is out of date.

 

Certainly I have seen plenty of red plates driving on expressways.

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2 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

I think the above is out of date.

 

Certainly I have seen plenty of red plates driving on expressways.

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1 hour ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

 

The police back down real quick when they know they are trying it on....

 

Which is why I want to know what the actual, current law is

 

As mentioned to reach Bangkok I have  through several check points. All cars are stopped at these, and if there is any possible excuse for a fine, they will impose it.

 

So I would really, really like to be sure of the actual current law on this. Puts me at a disadvantage with the police not to know, and they  may  sense that.

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As someone also mentioned, rumor has it that the plates are delayed because the dealer must pay the head office for the car first, and they are keen to float the money for awhile. Agency will process in a day of so; you can try insisting on no red plate. 

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

Thanks, just what I needed to know.

 

I do have the option of waiting to pick up the car until the white plates are ready. but as I would have to pay in full first my concern is that the dealer might then take forever and I'd have no leverage.

you gunna let that car sit waiting for 30days/months ?

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53 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Which is why I want to know what the actual, current law is

 

 

current law has been mentioned a few times already inthis thread.

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54 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

 

 

As mentioned to reach Bangkok I have  through several check points. All cars are stopped at these, and if there is any possible excuse for a fine, they will impose it.

 

 

wow, what province are you traveling from that they have police stop points that check paperwork in detail.

 

Have traveled extensively in Thailand not seen stops that rigid.

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45 minutes ago, flbkk said:

As someone also mentioned, rumor has it that the plates are delayed because the dealer must pay the head office for the car first, and they are keen to float the money for awhile. Agency will process in a day of so; you can try insisting on no red plate. 

 

Tried that. Answer was fine but have to pay in full first. My fear is that I would then be in for a very, very long wait for the car with plates to arrive and have no leverage. I think I may do better to insist on registering the plates myself. The local DLT isn't too bad wait wise.

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46 minutes ago, flbkk said:

As someone also mentioned, rumor has it that the plates are delayed because the dealer must pay the head office for the car first, and they are keen to float the money for awhile. Agency will process in a day of so; you can try insisting on no red plate. 

 

I'm having a little trouble following this...surely they have to pay first to get the red plates? But the delay is not for the car and red plates, it is for getting the white plates after the red plates have been issued. As far as I can figure out the only money in play at that point is 4000 baht registration fee for the white plates (plus of course they have the deposit on the red plates).?

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45 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

current law has been mentioned a few times already inthis thread.

 

Multiple, different versions of the law have been mentioned. None with a source (unless one counts Wikipedia which I don 't).

 

It seems clear that it used to be the law that one could neither drive at night nor drive out of the province where the sale was registered, but some people have said this has since changed.

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7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Sheryl, 

 

Registration: 

You can expedite receiving your white plate by registering your car at the DLT yourself at the DLT in MoChit.

4th Floor (entrance to the building circled in red).

Take the following:

- Brown Book (registered to the red plates). 

- Affirmation of Address / Proof or Residence.

- Passport Copy

- Proof of Purchase 

(2 photocopies of each item - just incase).

 

Go to the Vehicle registration office, 4th floor DLT. You will be handed a queue number. 

Once your queue number is called (I have waited about 10 mins each time I’ve done this). 

You get to select the Registration number you want from a list (you have 3 choices, you chose in order of preference) and write the numbers down on a list.

You then queue again (5m away), your documents are checked and you are handed a Receipt (with a code on it and the registration number)

Scan this and message it to your dealer. 

The dealer can then have the plates made up - it shouldn’t take the dealer long (less than a week). 

 

The process is very simple, depending on how many people are there it may take 30mins to an hour.

 

This is for Bangkok Registered Cars. IF your car is going to be registered in a different province, I imagine they have the same process there (perhaps quieter and quicker) - thus find the DLT office nearest to your house and see what they can do.

 

Brown Book:

Use your Brown Book - fill it out in Pencil each day. 

If you are doing the same journey - just fill out the two journeys (for there and back) and change the dates each day:

 

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I do nto live in Bangkok but the principle should be the same, and I have several times registered used cars at the local DLT.   The only hitch I can think of is if I buy the car in Bangkok and then need to register it locally. Does that alter the paperwork requirements or is it still just the brown book plus proof of sale?

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1 minute ago, Sheryl said:

 

Multiple, different versions of the law have been mentioned. None with a source (unless one counts Wikipedia which I don 't).

 

It seems clear that it used to be the law that one could neither drive at night nor drive out of the province where the sale was registered, but some people have said this has since changed.

as I said earlier. New car ownership really is  not as bad as you  are (over) thinking it.

for your peace (paranoid) of mind you would be best to buy used and hope its been maintained and not turn into an expensive rabbit hole.

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1 minute ago, Sheryl said:

 

I'm having a little trouble following this...surely they have to pay first to get the red plates? But the delay is not for the car and red plates, it is for getting the white plates after the red plates have been issued. As far as I can figure out the only money in play at that point is 4000 baht registration fee for the white plates (plus of course they have the deposit on the red plates).?

The dealer has the red plates in stock and can put them on any car he wants.

 

In another topic i once explained why there might be such a delay:

On 4/18/2020 at 5:22 PM, jackdd said:

It's all about money (taxes and interest)

The exact procedures might of course vary, depending on the brand and how everything is handled, but the reason is about like this:

The dealer orders a vehicle from the head office, which is delivered to him with a payment period of maybe 2 months. So the dealer has 2 months time until he actually has to pay the head office for this vehicle (could be a vehicle which he wants to put in his showroom, or one which he sold already)

Because he didn't pay the vehicle yet, he doesn't get the documents required to register the vehicle. These documents are not issued by the head office itself, but the head office has to request them from the government, and upon requesting them they have to pay certain taxes for this vehicle.

 

If you go to a dealer and order a vehicle which they don't have in the showroom:

The dealer takes your money and just keeps it, preferably the whole two months before he has to pay the head office. Then the head office would also like to keep the money as long as possible before they have to pay the taxes for the car, so maybe they wait another month. Then finally they pay their taxes, get the required documents, send them to the dealer, who gives them to an agent who does the registration.

Of course it would be totally possible for the dealer to pay the head office as soon as he has your money, they pay their taxes and send the dealer the documents. The buyer could probably have the white plates within 2 days. But financially it's better for them to let you drive on red plates for as long as they can get away with.

 

If you buy a vehicle from the dealer which sits in their showroom:

You can be lucky and their two months payment period is over, so they paid the vehicle and got the required documents from head office already. All they have to do is register the vehicle for you, could be done within a day.

 

 

 

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