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7 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

Thanks for that. I do nto live in Bangkok but the principle should be the same, and I have several times registered used cars at the local DLT.   The only hitch I can think of is if I buy the car in Bangkok and then need to register it locally. Does that alter the paperwork requirements or is it still just the brown book plus proof of sale?

 

I think, if you buy in Bangkok the dealer will register the car in Bangkok. Whereas you register the car yourself it would be advantageous for you to do this in your own province. 

 

As I have never done this myself, I am unable to answer that question of whether or not this becomes any more complex with any degree of certainty.

 

I imagine its not an issue, this is something done quite regularly when people from out of province come to Bangkok to get better deals or to get deals from the motorshow exhibitions. 

 

Also, dealerships are like franchises: Consider when buying a car whether you will be able to go to any dealer for maintenance and servicing or if you have to visit the dealership from where you purchased the vehicle (this point may have already been raised - I haven’t read the whole of your other thread). 

 

 

 

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Authorities to crack down on red license plates

BANGKOK, 8th August 2017 (NNT) - The Department of Land Transport (DLT) has instructed owners of new vehicles with red license plates to register their vehicles within 30 days, in anticipation of a new law abolishing red license plates.

The Council of the State has approved a new bill abolishing red license plates. The bill is now undergoing deliberation in the National Legislative Assembly. DLT Director-General Sanit Promwong confirmed that under the new law, all street-legal vehicles must be registered and red license plates will no longer be issued.

Starting January 1st, 2018, new car owners must register their vehicles within 30 days. During a period of grace from October 1st to December 31st, 2017, vehicle registrations must be carried out within 60 days, and owners are required to carry vehicle handbooks. All vehicles with red license plates must have their handbooks issued by the DLT.

The DLT has coordinated with the Royal Thai Police in enforcing the new measure, as unregistered vehicles are subject to criminal charges of fraud. Violators will be subject to jail terms from six months to five years and a fine of up to 10,000 baht.

Deputy Commissioner General of the Royal Thai Police, Pol Lt Gen Wittaya Prayongpan revealed today that red license plates were never meant for street-legal vehicles, although some people have continued to drive with red license plates.

 

 
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Article from the Nation.

 

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Newly-bought vehicles that carry temporary red license plates will be banned from streets starting in June if a draft law is enacted, the Land Transport Department chief said on Monday.
Sanit Promwong, director general of the Land Transport Department, said a draft law to implement the ban was being reviewed by the Office of the Council of State and would be debated at public hearings as required by Article 77 of the new Constitution.

He said the law was expected to be enacted in June, after which all new vehicles must have been registered to have license plates before they can be driven.

Currently, new vehicles can be driven for up to 30 days with temporary plates, while the permanent ones are being registered.

Pending the new law’s enactment, the owner of any vehicle that continues to carry red license plates after the 30-day leniency period will face a fine of Bt10,000, Sanit said.

He added that his department had streamlined the registration process and it could be completed in just one day.

(Source:-The Nation, Thailand)

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1020326-new-vehicles-with-temporary-license-plates-to-be-banned/

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There are 2 Red Plates. Real and false that look real. Fuss about nothing this has become.!. Kerry have genuine red plates zooming everywhere.

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4 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Article from the Nation.

 

 

Seems not to have been enacted as yet as still plenty of red plates on the road, and dealers still issue them at purchase.

 

But the 30 day rule, which is old, is indeed my understanding.

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8 hours ago, Parsve said:

A friend of mine bought a new car five years ago. With red plates, they leaved Chonburi to travel to his gf:s home village. There they was stopped at a checkpoint and get a fee of 6000 baht. 1000 baht for each province border they had passed. No one had told him that he had to fill in the book.

The fine for driving with no plates at all is 6000 baht with possible  seizure of the vehicle. I haven't heard of anyone paying so much for a simple red plate infraction. They don't have border controls either.

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Sheryl,

First thank you for all the help you have provided to the people on Thai visa!

 

Be sure you get a brown book with you red tags.  You will pay a refundable 2,500 baht deposit.  Then fill out the brown book every time that you take a trip out of your province. If you go to Chiang Mai, fill it in before you leave, and again before you leave Chiang Mai to return to Bangkok. Forget about everyone who says you'll never be stopped. One time we forgot to fill it in, we were stopped at a check point and had to pay a small fine.

 

If you need help, PM me and my Thai wife will be happy to assist you.  (She is a Ph.D. who speaks English.)

 

Good luck,

Don

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13 hours ago, worrab said:

I think, and I am sure I will be corrected if wrong, it is to do with paying of taxes by the dealer. Once these taxes are paid then they can get the white plates, hence delays.

 

This point is still bothering me in terms of my plan to do the registration myself in order to get the white plates more quickly.

 

If the plates are nto issued until the dealer has paid the tax, and the dealer postpones that, then how would I be able to register the vehicle?

 

What documentation shows that the taxes have been paid, and would I not need to have that?

 

I worry about entering into an agreement based on the assumption that I can register the car myself only to find out I can't because the dealer has not yet paid the tax.

 

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

This point is still bothering me in terms of my plan to do the registration myself in order to get the white plates more quickly.

You can't save much time by doing it yourself, maybe a few days.

 

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

If the plates are nto issued until the dealer has paid the tax, and the dealer postpones that, then how would I be able to register the vehicle?

You won't.

 

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

What documentation shows that the taxes have been paid, and would I not need to have that?

Of course you need this, it's called หนังสือรับรองหลักฐานการส่งบัญชีรับและจำหน่ายรถ

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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

 

This point is still bothering me in terms of my plan to do the registration myself in order to get the white plates more quickly.

 

If the plates are nto issued until the dealer has paid the tax, and the dealer postpones that, then how would I be able to register the vehicle?

 

What documentation shows that the taxes have been paid, and would I not need to have that?

 

I worry about entering into an agreement based on the assumption that I can register the car myself only to find out I can't because the dealer has not yet paid the tax.

 

Typically the dealer wont run to the DLT everytime a vehicle is sold, it takes time.

 

They will typically go to the DLT once a month (or so) and sort multiple new vhicle sales at the same time..

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A Cars like anything else You Buy. Pay up its Yours. Nothing to do with anyone else. Finance one and it aint Yours.

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16 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

This point is still bothering me in terms of my plan to do the registration myself in order to get the white plates more quickly.

 

If the plates are nto issued until the dealer has paid the tax, and the dealer postpones that, then how would I be able to register the vehicle?

 

What documentation shows that the taxes have been paid, and would I not need to have that?

 

I worry about entering into an agreement based on the assumption that I can register the car myself only to find out I can't because the dealer has not yet paid the tax.

 

Nice little Fiesta here Sheryl....https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1175649-2012-ford-fiesta-15-s-auto-hatch/

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9 hours ago, jackdd said:

 

Of course you need this, it's called หนังสือรับรองหลักฐานการส่งบัญชีรับและจำหน่ายรถ

 

And thsi is nto provided at the time of sale?

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18 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

 

And thsi is nto provided at the time of sale?

To my understanding (which is based on being a buyer and asking the people at dealerships about the process) the dealer only gets this document after he has paid the head office for the car (and probably even then just with some delay, because the head office has to pay taxes and get it stamped and signed by the respective government authority).

If he ordered this car for you, he has a month or two to pay for this car, and he prefers to wait as long as possible to actually pay the head office.

If the car was sitting in the showroom for a while (maybe he had to pay the head office already), he could be in possession of this document at the time of sale.

 

Ask your dealer about when he will have this document. If he tells you "next week i have this document", you better insist on writing a clause in the sales contract like "if the document isn't there after next week the seller pays 1000 baht per day delay". If he refuses to write this in the contract, you know that it won't be there next week.

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On 8/1/2020 at 7:18 AM, dsj said:

I don't know why they can't give you your regular plates right away. In British Columbia, Canada as soon as you buy a car new/used you can go straight away to an agent and get your permanent plates. Also you can chose what ever plates the agent have available.

it's a meaningless, overly complex, convoluted process here, but so is everything to do with documentation and government departments. One of life's little frustrations here. I have ceased to ask "why", I just ask "what do I have to do" and "can I get someone else to do it for me". 

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