bwpage3 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, robblok said: Never burned any bridges can move my company anywhere i want. If tomorrow i decide i want to be back in my country i can be there. (if there were flights). I think its stupid to burn bridges at home. You always need to keep your options open. Medical care is always of importance but if you have money you can afford medical insurance. Ever since i moved here 15 years ago i always had medical insurance. Just gives peace of mind. What Thai or international medical insurance covers the major medical issues when you age? Think million+ baht medical issues? And how much you are paying? Not the same as free insurance, medicare, etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwpage3 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, robblok said: ACS pay around a 1000$ per half year for it. Better have a read through your policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwpage3 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 hours ago, johnnybangkok said: Why would you get 'surprises from hospitals, immigration and insurance'? They all spell out what they offer in advance. I've just come out of hospital with a 700k hospital bill that was completely paid by my highly reputable, healthcare provider. No questions asked. Immigration rules don't change that much. They want to deter those that cannot provide for themselves but if you can, and fit the criteria for retirement etc, apart from a slightly annoying 90 day reporting, it's pretty straight forward. It seems to me you are hearing reports from people who took out sub-standard cover and when the serious stuff happened (cancer being pretty near the top), they realised you get what you pay for. As I mentioned before, my health cover costs 10k per month BUT I am literally covered for absolutely all expenses for as long as those expenses last. There are plenty of things in the world where it's good to save money; I would venture that health insurance isn't one of them. You say that with zero evidence. What insurance company pays 100%? I think we need to verify that for you. Post the company so we can research the facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bwpage3 Posted August 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2020 8 hours ago, robblok said: Actually i grew up knowing i wanted to leave my country and go somewhere with a tropical climate. It just happened to be Thailand could have been an other country. As for people get old and that kind of thing, i got a medical insurance now not sure why anyone would live here without one. Unless you got huge amounts of money and self insure. I really find it strange to see how people go from loving it here until they realize they cant stay here anymore and then say they hate it and everything is bad here. Seems a lot like sour grapes. You went from loving the country that you were born in, to hating it and moving to Thailand. The smart people are the ones that have choices for themselves. They are not failures, the failures are the ones stuck who have to invent wonders to convince themselves Thailand is the best. You should know, the same as all people, that year after year, things get a little worse in Thailand. Air pollution, over-crowding, road deaths, baht rate, government, floods, now the pandemic lock out. You just really never know in the third world, year after year, what can happen. All it takes is something as simple as a shift in the people in charge. New gov't may hate foreigners and change all the rules. One never can predict what happens year to year. It is not a failure to experiment living in Thailand and then moving. Why on earth would a person want to stay in Thailand, if there are better options for them elsewhere? No one says you have to move to Thailand and live there forever. Thailand has changed, people change their ideas. Nothing to do with failure. Most of the people that call people failures from moving from Thailand, they are the ones trapped and jealous. I lived in Thailand for 10 years and moved back to corporate America. I make a ton of money, have a giant house, new cars, full benefits and best of all? Our kid won't have a useless education from Thailand. He is attending the University of Florida. So all, in all, I moved, I must be a failure! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybangkok Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, bwpage3 said: You say that with zero evidence. What insurance company pays 100%? I think we need to verify that for you. Post the company so we can research the facts. Not sure why you would think I was lying about this and I certainly don't appreciate your tone but for the benefit of other, less rude posters; I work through RBi (broker) https://www.rbimembership.com/ who in turn work through several insurance companies. My most recent insurer has been https://www.imglobal.com who out of a total bill for 700k charged me an excess of 25k which in turn RBi refunded back to me thus meaning I didn't pay a penny. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ifmu Posted August 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2020 10 hours ago, BritManToo said: Look like I will be forced to live in Thailand for the foreseeable future no matter what I want. Borders closed, and effectively no flights out. Sure I can buy a ticket, but they keep cancelling flights and refusing cash refunds. how many flight canceled ..? i am on my first .. also no refund 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermin on arrival Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 3:26 PM, Logosone said: Or you could now go to Taiwan for "medical" reasons Don't act as if this special permit is a gimme. On a Taiwan forum, a person said his wife was denied entrance for a medical permit based on maternity medicine (she is pregnant). I have read it is only for serious medical problems. I have an untreated umbilical hernia from a failed surgery I had in Taiwan at a hospital where I am a regular patient. I will try to get a permit based on having a new surgery to correct it so i can get back home. If I am denied the permit to enter you will know that it will only be given for serious medical emergencies or problems. They will not be given out for regular check-ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, bwpage3 said: You went from loving the country that you were born in, to hating it and moving to Thailand. That is very common behaviour amongst a certain percentage of longstayers here, specially with the Dutch. Waste of time to reason with them too. Same same but different as those veerrryy boring expats who did have a 400-800K deposit but otherwise live under a stone. Actually stopped playing in pool teams due to such guys. Essentially they lived even more bored lives back home so a Junta ordered lifestyyle sounds good to them thus they tell us all is good and never changed. Even the obvious misery as a result is right under their noses, they deny. We can't ruin their fantasy cuz they gave up on life before it started and this is their final station. Edited August 1, 2020 by ChaiyaTH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Pravda said: What the heck does this mean?. Means your covered in those countries aside your designated country, for up to 120 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoupeo Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 There is nothing to do, just wait and we will get a new extension. But I guess that the people who didn't see the 2 first extension coming also can't see the third one ? Aging is something that seems very bad ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1988 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 I have a 1 year non immigrant ed visa, done on May 2020. I just have to go at immigration every 90 days. I was really bored about tourist visa and going out to the border all the time. Now am very happy in Thailand and I can apply for another ed visa after 1 year as well. I wish good luck for those that are into amensty but I think that if you will leave after will be very difficult to come back in Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbob Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jack1988 said: I have a 1 year non immigrant ed visa, done on May 2020. I just have to go at immigration every 90 days. I was really bored about tourist visa and going out to the border all the time. Now am very happy in Thailand and I can apply for another ed visa after 1 year as well. I wish good luck for those that are into amensty but I think that if you will leave after will be very difficult to come back in Thailand this looked great until you read the stories of thai language test regardless of what you are actually studying, but that non-o status gives you options for sure (400k in bank 2 months and marriage, work permit/business visa) life gets a whole lot easier on Non-O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geriatrickid Posted August 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2020 I read most of the comments here. My impression is that the people who are having a difficult time are those of limited financial means and were in a precarious position prior to Covid19. We were warned long ago that Thailand was going to get expensive and that the loopholes were going to be closed. It is the same everywhere. All that Covid19 has done is to speed up the implementation of more consistent immigration rules. The thread does not have comment from the majority of foreigners who were prepared for the changes. I sympathize with the OP in respect to the expiration of his ED visa. However, the regulations that now apply were there prior to Covid19, so this should not be a surprise. The concern over canceled flights is legitimate. However, there are some almost guaranteed air routes that have been operating consistently because they are needed to ensure the movement of essential people and goods and services. Some of these routes to the EU are with KLM and Etihad. On 7/31/2020 at 2:30 AM, PatOngo said: I lived and worked there for 30 years and payed plenty in taxes, although i earned some good money in Thailand, there are very little or no rights for farang regardless of being married, owning property,(only in wife's name) having highly educated children contributing to the local economy (albeit educated outside outside Thailand for educations sake) having assets there, I feel Thailand is best suited to Thai's who are only too prepared to bend over and cop the BS! I have quite a few long term expat friends who have left or will leave when travel permits! We all knew that before coming to Thailand. It is the same elsewhere. I worked in the UK and paid taxes but was not covered by the NHS. I have paid taxes in the USA too and received the same treatment as what Thailand has given me, so please understand this issue is not specific to Thailand. it is not my country, nor do I wish to be a citizen. How some people deal with the heat, humidity, dengue, air pollution etc. is beyond my understanding. However, if they are happy, that's all that matters. On 7/31/2020 at 3:44 AM, Pravda said: Yea, I hear ya. I am gonna be 50 in a few years and there is no way in hell I am staying in Thailand with free medical care back in Canada. I don't understand what's with all those other people on other threads begging to stay in Thailand after September 26th. Must be some kind of Stockholm syndrome. When I came to Thailand I accepted accepted that I may return back to mother Canada one day. I didn't burn any bridges, thank god. There is no "free medical care" in Canada. Are you aware that most provinces have residency requirements? For example in Ontario; You must be physically present in Ontario for 153 days in any 12-month period to qualify for OHIP medicare. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1988 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, jbob said: this looked great until you read the stories of thai language test regardless of what you are actually studying, but that non-o status gives you options for sure (400k in bank 2 months and marriage, work permit/business visa) life gets a whole lot easier on Non-O I go to school every week and I like to learn Thai language so no problem for me about getting tested 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pravda Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, geriatrickid said: There is no "free medical care" in Canada. Are you aware that most provinces have residency requirements? For example in Ontario; You must be physically present in Ontario for 153 days in any 12-month period to qualify for OHIP medicare. I am not sure what residence requirements have to do with anything or the cost of healthcare. Of course there are residence requirements as there should be. Edited August 2, 2020 by Pravda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey88 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 4:45 PM, bestie said: Thank you for letting me know. No I didn't know that. But the fee for the agent for switching to a new Visa and paying the school a year further seems to be a little bit expensiv for me. However a like for option 2. No, I'm not married and under 50 years old. So I'm not planning to staying here forever but I would like to study 1-2 years further. In my case I know I will leave sooner or later. But I wouldn't like to pay for a flight in this time and then maybe the flight get canceled. Like it happened to two of my friends. Thank you for all your answers. Please stay polite to each other. How much is the agent requesting to change the visa for you...? Can you say..? And what location are you...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrasatKeith Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Hello. I am new to the forum, and there is so much here, i wanted to ask to clarify my situation. I have a Non O, from Laos, not been across the border since the 90 day expired 26th April. It runs out January. Am i correct in assuming that, on or before the 26th of September, i can go to immigration and get 60 days, as i have not done this at all since renewing? If so, that will then take me to mid November and either i find a new way for a visa, or an agent, or, the borders may be open (fat chance) . Thank you for your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, PrasatKeith said: Am i correct in assuming that, on or before the 26th of September, i can go to immigration and get 60 days, as i have not done this at all since renewing? Yes But I think doing it around mid September would be better or you might find crowds of people at immigration closer to Saturday the 26th and it will still start on the 27th. If you can meet the 400k baht in a Thai bank for 2 months or proof of 40k baht of income you could apply for a one year extension of stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 1 minute ago, PrasatKeith said: Hello. I am new to the forum, and there is so much here, i wanted to ask to clarify my situation. I have a Non O, from Laos, not been across the border since the 90 day expired 26th April. It runs out January. Am i correct in assuming that, on or before the 26th of September, i can go to immigration and get 60 days, as i have not done this at all since renewing? If so, that will then take me to mid November and either i find a new way for a visa, or an agent, or, the borders may be open (fat chance) . Thank you for your time Yes, you can do as you outlined. In addition you could after obtaining you 60 day extension obtain an 12 month permission of stay (extension) to non O (marriage). That has financial requirements. Either min balance in Thai bank 400k baht or monthly income deposits for 2 months. If possible to satisfy that it covers you for next 12 months. Would be best to have the financials in place then apply for your 60 day extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrasatKeith Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Thank you. gives me time to sort finances then ready for november 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdong Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 bought a daiy mail 1st augustand they said thailand was opening 1.8.2020 the article was in the holiday section,anyone else see it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Just now, PrasatKeith said: Thank you. gives me time to sort finances then ready for november Personally, I would apply as soon as you have your finances in place. Many folk have switched to non o marriage already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, kingdong said: bought a daiy mail 1st augustand they said thailand was opening 1.8.2020 the article was in the holiday section,anyone else see it? Pipe dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 I keep reminding everyone about the other option. Many farangs have left and still none can enter. This has left many schools without enough foreign teachers. Walk into pretty much any school right now, they'll want you to start teaching immediately, and will get started on your Non-B visa. Don't think you can do it? Sing some songs, play some games, talk about the Premier League. It's better than nothing. Make a difference for the future of Thailand, its children. Reach For The Power, Teach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestie Posted August 2, 2020 Author Share Posted August 2, 2020 2 hours ago, mikey88 said: How much is the agent requesting to change the visa for you...? Can you say..? And what location are you...? The Visa Agent is located in Bangkok and often time recommend here on the forum. I think it's allowed to say it but PM me if you want to know who it is. He would like to have 37K for one year. I'm located in the region of Huahin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 17 hours ago, bwpage3 said: Better have a read through your policy. Not sure what the point is it covers what i want it to cover. I did not want any outpatient i got enough money to cover that. So why would I have to check my policy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 17 hours ago, bwpage3 said: What Thai or international medical insurance covers the major medical issues when you age? Think million+ baht medical issues? And how much you are paying? Not the same as free insurance, medicare, etc. Of course its not the same, but if i go to my country it would not be free either. You pay through taxes. Same if when your here you pay through taxes. My coverage is a million $ that is plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 (edited) good afternoon, here my story of personal agony caused by the thai bs recent restrictions. i m married for 25 years to my thai wife both we are 64 years old. i left thailand in january 2020 for medical treatment bound for my home country germany. then covid struck. now i have cannot return to my wife for those useless restrictions barring me from entering the country where i lived on an extension of stay based on marriage to a thai national. my extnsion is becoming invalid on august 4th 2020, thereafter i would need to apply for a non o single entry in hamburg. however given the current restriction nonsense 1. certificate of entry, 2. covid 19 test 3. fit to fly certificate 4. quarantine hotel 14 days. 5. meeting at the embassy 400 km away. i got already a flight with klm and rebooked 3 times til 3.11.2020 with return 29.04.2021. why is a covid 19 test and a medical insurance not enough , why a stupid hotel booking for i have my owen residence in thailand. I agree a covid 19 test and health insurance coverage euro 95000 is necesaary. I found AXA euro 195 6 months , unlimited treatment expenses and letter provided stating covid 19 is not excluded. I have also sufficient fundsi n a my thai account. cheers roobaa01 Edited August 2, 2020 by roobaa01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torturedsole Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 7:23 AM, RichardColeman said: I think I'll just not renew my tenants lease, sell the house , move up north and buy a better house and fund the wife and our daughter coming here. Better late than never. Evermore onerous hoops to jump through with the UK government and regular price hikes for settlement visas. I assume your daughter is already a British citizen, so one less problem. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padthaininja Posted August 2, 2020 Share Posted August 2, 2020 Waiting... Meanwhile in Vietnam they are letting people pay and extend up to 3 months (no limit) I've read some who have already extended 3 times already! Why doesn't Thailand want my money? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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